Route Piccadilly Line In 1927: Hammersmith - Finsbury Park

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  1. Asheix

    Asheix Well-Known Member

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    If you have seen my previous suggestions, then this one will be of no surprise. Many London Underground suggestions I have seen lately start from the early 1970s to the modern day, so why not go earlier? This would take advantage of rolling stock that hasn't been seen in TSW or TSC and feature stations that have been closed or abandoned over the 20th century.

    I have tried to paint a picture of how the Piccadilly Line was in 1927, the setting for my suggestion, featuring decorative ideas such as posters as well as news from the time of what was happening. I think it is neglectful to skip past, brush aside or even neglect the rich past of the London Underground when it could be brought back to life and experienced by those who were born long after 1927. The same can be said for any time before this too.

    I have made sure to the best of my ability to have the correct information in this suggestion, but I know the community has a far greater combined knowledge than I could ever hope for and can contribute towards it.

    The Route...

    Calling points

    -Eastbound-

    - Hammersmith
    - Barons Court
    - Earl's Court
    - Gloucester Road
    - South Kensington
    - Brompton Road
    - Knightsbridge
    - Hyde Park Corner
    - Down Street
    - Dover Street
    - Piccadilly Circus
    - Leicester Square
    - Covent Garden
    - Holborn
    - Russell Square
    - Kings Cross
    - York Road
    - Caledonian Road
    - Holloway Road
    - Gillespie Road
    - Finsbury Park

    -Westbound-

    - Finsbury Park
    - Gillespie Road
    - Holloway Road
    - Caledonian Road
    - York Road
    - Kings Cross
    - Russell Square
    - Holborn
    - Aldwych
    - Or skips Aldwych and continues around to Hammersmith

    Example images of Piccadilly Line stations in 1927 both existing and closed

    Holloway Road
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    (Image: London Transport Museum: https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/photographs/item/1998-88508)

    Caledonian Road
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    (Image: London Transport Museum. https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/photographs/item/1998-65881)

    Down Street
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    (Image: London Transport Museum. https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/photographs/item/1998-65870)

    Gillespie Road
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    (Image: London Transport Museum. https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/photographs/item/1998-65910)

    Aldwych
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    (Image: London Transport Museum. https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/photographs/item/1998-80298)

    Dover Street
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    (Image: London Transport Museum. https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/photographs/item/1998-65886)

    Further images are available on the London Transport Museum website and I am sure such a suggestion would see frequent referencing with said museum if considered. https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/search?query=Piccadilly Line 1927&page=0

    Rolling Stock

    In 1927, the Piccadilly Line would have used the Standard Stock Underground train that was in service between 1923 - 1966 and would be used on the Isle of Wight from 1967 - 1992. As for the Piccadilly line, it was operating with the 1927 Metropolitan and Feltham batches that totalled 509 cars.

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    (Image: London Transport Museum. https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/collections/collections-online/vehicles/item/1996-797-part-0)

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    (Image: London Transport Museum. https://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/system/f.../collection_item/i00006n2_1.jpg?itok=xMCUTnth)

    Station Decoration

    We all know the London Underground has never been shy to use posters with some being like pieces of artwork the older they are. Such posters as "The Lure of the Underground" by Alfred Leete, "It is Warmer Down Below" by Frederick Charles, "Kew Gardens" by Clive Gardiner, "Schneider Cup Winner" parade poster and many others would make for fitting decorations and in-game collectables.

    The Piccadilly Line in 1927

    In January, a man was lying injured for nearly 2 hours under a tube train at Holborn Station on Friday 14th and was taken to hospital alive. The station staff alone could not help the man stuck under the train resulting in ambulance medics, police and engineers working to free the man.

    On Friday 18th February, a train on the line working empty to the depot derailed at Hyde Park Station resulting in Knightsbridge and Hammersmith sections being closed, as well as the Down Street and Hyde Park Corner stations. Thousands of confused commuters (referred to as "Morning workers") arrived at the station to find services seriously dislocated and had to seek other ways to reach their offices.

    On Tuesday 18th October, a delay was caused on the Piccadilly line of the Underground, when a large swing door of a goods wagon on an LMS train fell on the up-line between Hammersmith and Earls Court. Passenger traffic was held up for about half an hour

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    (Image: British Newspaper Archive. The Sphere - Saturday 02 April 1927)

    In the Daily Mirror on Wednesday 9th November, there was a discussion about an extension of the Piccadilly Line heading northwards from Finsbury Park involving the Transport Minister. The Piccadilly Line would see an extension to Arnos Grove in 1932 and to Cockfosters in 1933.
     
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  2. josh#4926

    josh#4926 Well-Known Member

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    Very unique suggestion, would be cool to see some of the earlier gate stock in action as well though I'm unsure how much reference is available to recreate those trains today
     
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  3. Asheix

    Asheix Well-Known Member

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    London Transport Museum would have all the resources.
     
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  4. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Yes please!
     
  5. irickroll#4031

    irickroll#4031 Active Member

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    If dtg can get the info, this is a yes!
     
  6. MRFS

    MRFS Staff Member

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    I'd prefer early 1932, as 1927 would take a bit longer to gather the information (although both are ultimately doable) - signalling plans from both years are to hand and I'm pretty sure I can find at least a smattering of WTTs.
     
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  7. gravy#1531

    gravy#1531 New Member

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    One of my favourite trains on the underground.
     
  8. d.heal

    d.heal Well-Known Member

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    Its more likely to be set as now instead of 1927 but have loco dlc to stand stock on it own timetable like the 1938 stock is
     

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