Hi Dave, Out of interest can you see of your liveries correctly in TSW4? Here is a photo of the prototype HST at Peterborough on ECML.......looking very prototypey. It's so new it's only been undercoated !!! (TBH I'm seeing this with all Creators Club liveries that have come over to TSW4 from TSW3 - see second photo).
Hi Dave, What would be interesting would be if you editted the HST Prototype in TSW4 Livery Designer (possibly just opening, saving and then re-uploading) and then I'll see what happens when I subscribe to that? Either that or just put up Prototype 2 via the TSW4 editor and I can compare and contrast the two files. David.
This is what I get in TSW4 with 252001. It is a TSW3 upload; I deleted it from my TSW4 Livery designer, downloaded it to TSW4 via the Hub and it appears in-game ok.
Yep that seems to work OK and I am now the proud driver of 2 "prototype" HSTs. (See below). I'll have a "play" with some more liveries tomorrow and see if they work correctly too. Thanks.
Glad you have that fixed. I think it was probably a DTG fix as there's been a few updates since the release. That RTC DMU looks good in service!
A new - and quite different - loco uploaded today for me - a steam locomotive! Don't worry, I haven't lost the plot, or maybe I have... My next uploadings will be a "What if..." scenario (more to be said about that later). Until then, enjoy the LMS Maroon Jubilee 5646 'Napier', reliveried in TSW3
What if... the 'Big Four' railways companies of Britain (LMS, LNER, GWR and SR) had partially succeeded in their efforts to prevent the nationalisation of the British railways in 1948? Instead of one all-encompassing organisation called 'British Railways', the government had taken ownership of the 4 companies as far as finances and general strategies were concerned, but allowed the four companies to retain their identities and cultures. Although some parallel routes were closed or adapted, to the average rail user, things appeared very much as before, except for the advent of Diesel power. Classes of diesels were introduced across the 4 companies, in a similar way to the reality, due to government oversight in the design and building process, so many classes that we know and love were still built and supplied to the '4'. Each company used their own numbering system and applied their own liveries, making for a very familiar - yet strange - scene that we would recognise. One consequence of the partial nationalisation was a diversion of funds for the general network and so WCML electrification was put off until the mid-1970s. This also meant that the decline in steam was slower than in reality - the LMS still using a number of their 'heritage' steam classes for mainline services well into the 1970s. Hence 5646 'Napier' above. Just one pic for you, as a teaser: An LMS EE Type 4-hauled train and an LNER Brush Type 4-hauled train meet at the west end of Manchester Victoria:
Uploaded onto the Hub - LNER 1509 'Blink Bonny' in Apple Green and MK2 FK, TSO and MK1 BG in LNER Teak livery! All via TSW3 (P.S HST Prototype 252002 also uploaded to the Hub via TSW3)
Next up - LMS Type 4 14248 'City of Leeds'. This is in Standard LMS Loco Maroon livery and the name is derived from LMS Coronation Class 6248 'City of Leeds'. The coaches are the LMS versions of the MK1 BG, MK2 FK and MK2 TSO. All available on the Hub.
Uploaded to the Hub are a few more What if... stock - LMS Brush Type 4 14552 in Black and the GWB MK2 FK, TSO and MK1 BG in LMS Maroon. I'm still working on the LNER Teaks for GWB, just the TSO to go, but I've had trouble with one of my LMS Brush Type 4's. It will not upload, comes back with an error message, so I might have to redo it.
Problem solved with my LMS Type 4 - the pictures were faulty. Only found after I'd totally repainted another copy! So, LMS 14228 'Duchess of Rutland' in Coronation Maroon livery now on the Hub:
Latest uploads now on the Hub - LMS Brush Type 4 14220 'Coronation' in Coronation Blue & Silver; and LNER Brush Type 4 1847 in Mixed Traffic Black EE Type 4s coming soon Ant!
One more LMS Brush Type 4 - 14378 in Black livery. An example of the freight sub-class, complete with a rake of LMS 12 Ton vans (which will be uploaded at some time too). Also, a Metro-Cammell 2-car DMU in LNER Green Passenger livery (I really want to call it a Class 101!)
2 more - the LMS version of the (NOT-101) Met-Camm 2-car DMU in LMS Maroon livery and LMS EE Type 4 14001 (Class 40) in LMS Diesel Black. If you consider that the previous EE Type 4s were the Southern Region's 10201 -3, it's not surprising how good this looks in LMS Black and Silver!
Methinks the black & silver livery would suit near enough every loco. The CL20 and the CL08 would look especially good in that livery....and be fairly prototypical (with a BR crest). Out of interest are you choosing to keep the yellow front panels or is that something that cannot be edited. (Ditto the "undercarriage". Could that also be coloured silver?). David
Hi, the yellow panels are a personal choice as I think anything by the mid 1960s would have them. The 'What if...' items are based around 1974ish, however I chose not to do full yellow ends. The undercarriage cannot be painted, so no silver bogies! Classes 08, 20, 37 and a.n.other to follow...
Hi Dave, I must admit I am becoming more and more fascinated with your "What If" idea. It is something really imaginative and puts a whole new twist on the game. Re the yellow ends I was actually not thinking of full yellow ends but was wondering, particularly for the black & silver livery, whether you could have all black ends? (I think the CL40 in particular would look really good in that). Although I presume that that might take "What If?" a bit further than you would like. Cheeky request - I am currently learning the new Scenario Editor and, basically, driving trains all over the lines and sidings we haven't been able to use in the past. TBH it is really good and adds a whole new level of possibilities to the game. Once I get the hang of this a bit more, and an uploader is built, I am then planning to try and build a very simple route in the Route Editor (much more of a challenge......although I did build a route in the original Train Simulator before). My proposal is to build the Southend Pier Railway as it was in the early 70's. So I was wondering if it might be possible to tempt someone like your good-self to create a Southend livery for a "What-If" Bakerloo line or Isle of White line tube stock ran on the route? (see below). Hope that this pricks your curiosity but, of course, no problem if it doesn't. Thanks. Regards, David. stock ran on the
Hmm, as if I didn't have enough to do! I'll look into the LMS Black & Silver with no yellow - it does sound appealing. The problem I currently have is that I've reached my 300 reskin limit and I'll have to delete something to make room for it. As I'm uploading a lot of stuff, I'll be able to delete from my collection, but as I'm working on a What if...scenario, I need to keep everything on my computer at the moment. As for Southend... I'll have a think, if that's ok. Regards, Dave
With my scenarios I renamed them all, before uploaded, so that I could tell what .sav file was what (as opposed to the usual jumble of numbers). That means, when I meet the scenario limit, I can swap files in and out manually as and when I need them. Can you do something similar with livery files? Re Southend then a good answer might be "Show me the makings of the route and then I'll think about it". That will, no doubt, give you many years grace before I reappear with something tangible Thanks, David.
The first of the What if... shunters are on the Hub now. LNER 3296, based at Healey Mills (an unusual shed shared by both LNER and LMS) and LMS 10306, also based at Healey Mills.
How do you access the .sav files? The only ones I can access are via 'My Games/TrainSimWorld 3/Saved. There is a folder called Reskins, but it doesn't contain anything from Livery designer.
How's this for the LMS 40, David? I've moved the LMS lettering to the centre of the bodywork too, as per 10000
The LMS CL40 with black ends looks great. Of course you will now also have to do its "sister" 14002 (perhaps you should make the LMS one 14000 and the sister 14001?) with a BR early crest. Then we can run the two as a pair. (If there is a pair then it will be very tempting to do a scenario on Crewe - Liverpool using those rather than the usual steam locos). Go on you know you'd like to see that (I'm happy to do the scenario). Re the TSW3/TSW4 file structure then all of my scenario files are found in location "My Games / TSW4 / Saved / SaveGames". Obviously they start off with the weird file names but I then (a) open them up with HxD Hex Editor to see what they really are and then (b) rename them using the following convention (USD_xxxxxxxx-1234-1234-1234-xxxxxxxxxxxx.sav). In my case the first 8 letters are the word "Scenario" and the last 4 numbers are usually the departure time used in the Scenario name The final 12 letters are then a prompt to tell me what the actual scenario name is. The difference with me is that I changed the file name before I uploaded it to the Hub. (You can change the names now but, I guess, you will lose the link to what they are currently called). Nothing a spreadsheet or notepad file can't track though. When I get tight for space I simply move files out of "SaveGames". It seems to work quite well for me and scenarios. David
Blimey that was quick. It looks great. Thanks very much (I think). I say "I think" because now I really have got to make my first route and it's starting to look like I've got to make it NOW Out of interest, and I have never "played" Bakerloo yet, does the train come in a fixed formation or can it be chopped up into different car lengths? (Just thinking about what I may be able to do in the official editor or when Formation Editor comes along). Also what bits of the model cannot be edited? (Can we have different set numbers or can a Southend crest be added later?). At least I now know what I am doing next week. Plunging into the world of route creation. Wish me luck
The set is fixed in Livery designer, with, I think, 7 cars. Or 9? I don't 'play' Bakerloo either and had to download it for the set! The units are pretty easy to paint, but the carriage numbers are fixed, on the front ends and the bodyside.Which is why I put a 'Set Number' on it. Other set numbers could be added and certainly a crest or lettering, but doing a crest is not an easy job - depending on how complex it is. If you want any mods, let me know, or I can upload it as it is... Dave
An influx of liveries today! LNER EE Type 3 6723 in Freight Black; and 3 variations of LMS EE Type 3, representing the prototype '10000'. You may be able to find the 'real' number of the Type 3 on at least one of the variations, but its not easy to spot!
That 37 in the LNER black looks rather dashing. I am going to hint, possibly explicitly, a 47 + MKIIs in the Silver Jubilee livery impression would look rather dashing too...
Yes the all black CL37 does look really great. (As did the CL40). A pair of each of these, 1xLMS and 1x early BR would be great. All black 20s and 08s wouldn't go amiss either. (An 08 with an all-black Turbot and an all-black 16T van would like great as my pier engineer's train.....hint hint) Dave have you seen my message to you? I now have a whole selection of 72 stock formations. I can send you some images if you want to see. Kind Regards, David
A few more uploaded today. I'm trying to get them all uploaded before I upload the scenario connected with the repaints! Still a way to go... LMS Shunter 10332; LMS Type 4 14061; LNER Type 4 1277 and LNER (NE) 12 Ton van
Sure does! Ironically, I don't believe it ever ran on the ECML, only the GWML, but that's the beauty of simulation! We really could do with a Paxman Valenta engine mod for the HST. That would really complete the effect.
I know a lot of it's testing were done between York and Darlington but also remember seeing pass my house as a young lad in Lincolnshire a couple of times, though I were only about 10 perhaps so, admittedly it could have been a one off and I remember the up and down run. A Paxman Valenta mod would be great though but to have the real thing come to game would be the dream.
No uploads this week as I'm away. I've about 6 more reskins to upload in the 'What if...' collection, as well as the scenario to go with it. Then on to something else - I'm preparing a series of scenarios based on Northern TransPennine, starting with a 1959 steam & early Green diesel mix, then 1963 with less steam and more Green diesels (with small yellow panels). Next will be 1969, all diesel, full yellow ends appearing as well as BR Blue. Then we move on to 1974 and the introduction of TOPS numbers. With Green diesels still about, it allows the inclusion of Green pre-TOPS, Green TOPS, Blue pre-TOPS and Blue TOPS locos. 1982 next, all Blue diesels with a little Large logo Blue. After that, I may venture into Railfreight variations, but no promises...
