(poll) Which Safety Systems Do You Know

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by AtherianKing, Feb 10, 2024.

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  1. AWS

    74 vote(s)
    84.1%
  2. DSD

    67 vote(s)
    76.1%
  3. Vigilance

    67 vote(s)
    76.1%
  4. PZB

    62 vote(s)
    70.5%
  5. LZB

    68 vote(s)
    77.3%
  6. SIFA

    68 vote(s)
    77.3%
  7. Alerter

    56 vote(s)
    63.6%
  8. ATC

    45 vote(s)
    51.1%
  9. ACSES

    41 vote(s)
    46.6%
  10. ECTS

    24 vote(s)
    27.3%
  11. TVM

    47 vote(s)
    53.4%
  12. KVB

    31 vote(s)
    35.2%
  13. Crocodile

    24 vote(s)
    27.3%
  14. Vacma

    24 vote(s)
    27.3%
  15. Integra

    16 vote(s)
    18.2%
  16. DRA

    53 vote(s)
    60.2%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Guest

    Just thought I’d create a thread on safety system understanding in TSW only and which ones people are good at using and the ones people struggle with learning

    Let me know if I missed any, I’ll add them to poll ASAP

    extra Infomation key;

    AWS - Alert Warning System
    DSD - Driver Safety Device
    PZB - Punktförmige Zugbeeinflussung
    LZB - Linienzugbeeinflussung
    SIFA - Sicherheitsfahrschaltung
    ATC - Automatic Train Control
    ACSES - Advanced Civil Speed Enforcement System
    ETCS (accident misspelling in poll (no way to edit)- European Train Control System
    TVM - Transmission Voie-Machine
    KVB - Contrôle de Vitesse par Balises
    Integra (Late entry to poll) - Integra-Signum
    DRA (Late Entry to Poll) - Driver’s Reminder Appliance



    personally it’s ETCS/TVM/KVB & Integra I wouldn’t select

    ETCS - not used much to remember it
    TVM - I know what it does, but avoid using as I don’t particularly like it.
    KVB - I don’t understand it’s use properly and haven’t taken time to learn properly
    Integra - not used much to remember it
     
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  2. heliomass

    heliomass Active Member

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    I have to say I've found ECTS confusing to use on the Luzern route. I've not really gotten my head round the different modes.

    It does sound like ECTS is the "golden standard" these days, as Germany is supposed to be converting to it from their systems. And of course the East Coast Main Line is in the process of being converted to ECTS. Which makes me wonder: Does the Azuma in TSW4 support ECTS and could we expect a signalling update in the future? :love:
     
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  3. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    PZB rules! Don't let ETCS take over the german rail network!
     
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  4. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Guest

    I doubt it’s coded/programmed with ETCS in game but I haven’t actually seen its internals to check for definite.

    ETCS I’m not totally keen on, but that’s quite similar with TVM. PZB is more fun.
     
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  5. Taboki#9293

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    In Norway we use the Swedish ATC system so I know that one, together with having learned ETCS as it's coming to the Norwegian railroads. All our trains have SIFA so I mean yes.

    Except for that I'm slowly learning the others while playing TSC and TSW.
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    I only really know the safety systems on the British railway network (apart from the TVM and KVB on the 395).

    Not really surprising as I don't delve into foreign routes often, but I find those systems complicated so never bothered to use them.
     
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    -_-LivvuAurora-_- Well-Known Member

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    I know PZB, LZB, SiFA pretty well from the game. However, I know ETCS as I am very much an SBB fangirl and my aunt tells me about it :)
     
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  8. Midnight

    Midnight Well-Known Member

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    After learning PZB/LZB, I have mostly stopped playing UK routes (Except Tees Valley Line, SEHS and NTP as I love those) because I now find German safety systems far more challenging, entertaining and enjoyable.

    PZB/LZB may seem difficult at first, but honestly, stick with it and don't give up. It's really fun and rewarding once everything comes together!
     
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  9. meridian#2659

    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

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    The Etcs system is growing, and more infrastructure is getting equipped with. Sometimes a lot of vehicles are beeing refitted with ects, even if the stock is in its second half or third part of its lifespan.

    And its reality not just in germany.
     
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    Mirel is fun too. It has aspect repeater that shows you in cab what next signal will be (with live changes!), but whenever it dislikes something or loses connection for a little bit, it immediately starts generating brake curves out of sudden. It's physically present in Vectron (small vertical display with +, -, enter buttons), but not implemented.
     
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