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Pzb Learning

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  1. Mat_Jam_Ca

    Mat_Jam_Ca Well-Known Member

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    Which is the best route to learn PZB? I’ve read manuals and watched videos and I’m still scared to use it lol.
     
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    Samo1 Well-Known Member

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    I’m not sure there is a best route tbh, PZB is tough to get your head around but if/when you master it and I still make occasional mistake it’s very rewarding and makes German routes the most involving routes to play in my opinion
     
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  3. diamondderp

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    RSN, and try it with that "long" dosto. I forgot what service it was. HHR and PRO/RRO (still don't know how to type is) is also pretty decent.
     
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    I agree with the route, but to learn PZB I'd recommend a light freight service. This way you won't be challenged to travel at high speeds, which would be the case if you were driving a passenger train.
     
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    You can also set the AFB to 10 if you want :P
     
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    TinTin_57 Well-Known Member

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    RSN with freight as mentioned. The two short routes are PZB heavy and MSB moderately so. I learnt it on RSN
     
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    Mat_Jam_Ca Well-Known Member

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    Been trying PZB on Haupstrecke Rhein Ruhr, without much success. I keep getting my train stopped, not sure why, but clearly need more instruction/guidance.
     
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    If you get always the "Zwangsbremsung" at Duisburg or Bochum (depends on terminus) around the middle of the platform, there is a magnet what you need to acknowledge. Im not sure if you also need to reduce your speed to 35 KM/H lower before you going over the magnet. Do it on a clear midday and take a look at the magnets ;)
     
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    HRR PZB for a beginner I’d say would be one of the hardest to learn it on as it’s high speed and lots of changes. RSN is the one to learn on
     
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    Dave Mel Well-Known Member

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    PZB it would be good if we had a tutorial to follow as i havent a clue what to do. and with LZB coming into the game well this would make it even more confusing. i do know how to operate AFB. i think i heard Sam said he would like tutorials to be made about these safety devices or he would take part in making them
     
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    It's quite an intimidating system to learn, so I've been sticking to SIFA mostly. I keep meaning to try it out, so I'll have to give RSN a go.
     
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    PZB is pretty intimidating. But if you got it under your knee you can get no Zwangsbremsung ;)
     
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    I played without PZB for months then decided to self teach it watching various sources and reading the manual. For me it gave me a whole new level of playability and routes I had played for a while took on a different experience completely. I can’t now play without it. If I try I find I’m still watching every speed board and signal and acknowledging them even though I don’t have to lol
     
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    It’s a completely different game for the better with PZB
     
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    It makes it also more realistic. until the Zwangsbremsung react ;)
     
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    Mat_Jam_Ca Well-Known Member

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    Do you have to acknowledge a speed reduction warning sign (orange downward pointing triangle) of 100kph? I’m guessing the answer is yes as on HRR on approach to Mulheim Hbf from Essen, I keep getting emergency stopped for no other reason I can think off than failing to acknowledge the 100kph triangle.
     
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    Before Essen for example there is a yellow signal, you need to acknowledge that. Acknowledge only yellow signals without a white light.
     
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    I am definitely triggering an emergency brake application between Essen and Mullheim (Ruhr) Hbf on route to Duisburg (HRR). I have no yellows, but a few seconds after passing the 10 orange triangle on approach to Mullheim, the emergency brakes apply - even if I acknowledge the speed reduction. Once I move off again, restricted mode isn’t activating. Seems like a bug.

    Also between Mullheim (Ruhr) and Duisburg when the speed reduces from 140 to 100 on approach to Duisburg, before I get to the yellow signal, emergency braking is applied. This time though, when moving off, I am placed into restricted mode.

    Unless these are bugs, I’m not sure what I am doing wrong :(
     
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    At Duisburg and Bochum is in the middle of the magnet a 500Hz platform. I think you need to drive slower than 25 km/h if you are acknowledging it.
     
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    matjamca yes, any yellow triangle board with 100kph or less. Miss one of those you’ll get braked
     
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    I did acknowledge this board though and still got emergency braked.

    Also, how do you release from a 500hz magnet when a signal is red when you pull into a station but then turns green whilst the 500hz magnet is active. Pulling away from the station I get emergency braked even though the signal is now green.
     
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    Drive below 25km/h until it goes away. usually a short bit past the signal.
     
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    Are you sure? It feels like it only applies to 90km and below.
     
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    Maybe, I've always acknowledged 100 and under and been ok. Officially it could be 90 but I haven't tested that
     
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    Just had to work it out, so for anyone else wondering, RSN is Ruhr-Sieg Nord
     

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