Pzb System Question

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  1. PhÜnKî_Rø0sTā

    PhÜnKî_Rø0sTā Active Member

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    Hi all,

    Anyone figured out how to use the PZB system on German Locos? I go past a yellow green over yellow signal and then out of nowhere the emergency brakes come on. I'm pressing the aknowledge button but it doesn't do squat?

    No idea on what I'm supposed to do.

    Thanks

    Jamie
     
  2. R3dS41ft

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    Matt P did a tutorial on you tube that explains things quite simply.
    It's based on TSW but the signalling is the same.
     
  3. BeenTrain

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    When you encounter a green-yellow, or post sign diagonal double green yellow, indicating speed change to 60km/h, you are supposed to acknowlegde that with PageDown, and drop your speed within 23 seconds to 85 km/h.
    For other train types other figures goes.

    Attached a chart from zusi manual which explaines it very clear. (train type O is passenger, train type M is freight and U is heavy freight)

    Another good explaining video by PTGRail:
     

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  4. Kim Olesen

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    It’s actually a speed change to 40kmh unless otherwise indicated. Hope it’s ok with the small correction.
     
  5. BeenTrain

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    I am not sure Kim.
    As far as I know, a single yellow always means down to 60, double yellow down to 40, unless a speed is shown at the signal.
     
  6. 749006

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    I have never seen a German Stop Signal displaying a Double Yellow - only on Distant Signals

    There are different types of DB signals - the most common is the Hp
    http://www.sh1.org/eisenbahn/shhp.htm#ascpects
    If the Hp 2 shows Green over Yellow the speed in normally 40kph unless indicated otherwise
    http://www.sh1.org/eisenbahn/shhp.htm#ascpects
    If the Hp 2 shows Green over Green the speed in normally 60kph unless indicated otherwise
    The speed applies from the Signal and not where the track speed changes

    There is the KS system which only shows a single aspect and sometimes with a Speed indicator
    http://www.sh1.org/eisenbahn/shks.htm
     
  7. BeenTrain

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  8. Kim Olesen

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    You beat me to it yourself. Even though German Swiss and Austrian signalling is similar, you stumbled on one of the differences.

    Green yellow in Germany (or just yellow in case of KS signals) always mean expect speed limit of 40kmh, except if indicated otherwise.
     

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