Am I too stupid to enter the data or is this locomotive just not working? To ask, yes, the train data is correct, I took notes for this formation, but somehow nothing works here /
The data you have entered doesn't make any sense, especially the BRH. As your value is 990. BRH can be 050 - 220. This is also what the loco gives you as feedback "implausible data". You know how to calculate the Bremshundertstel? Here is the sheet for the 101: And for the cabcar:
Easy tutorial for BRH calculation (based on IC Service 1296 on SRM): Bremsgewichte (Break weight R+MG) of the single units of the train: Steuerwagen InterCity / Cab Car = 90t Intercitywagen 1. Klasse / IC Coach 1st Class = 107t Intercitywagen 2. Klasse / IC Coach 2nd Class = 108t Baureihe 101 / Loco = 168t Additional data (found in OVERVIEW TAB usinc ESC - only works when sitting in the drivers seat!) Length = 203,4m resulting in ZL = 210m Trainweigth = 405,8t Example train (IC1296) consists of: 1x Steuerwagen / Cab Car 1x BR 101 / Loco 5x 2. Klasse / IC 2nd Class Coach 1x 1. Klasse / IC 1st Class Coach = 90t (Cab Car) + 168t (BR101) + 540t (5x 108t - 2nd Class Coach with ) + 107t (1x 107t -1st Class Coach with ) = 905t Bremsgewicht (break weight) 905t x 100 / 406t (train weight -see OVERVIEW TAB in ESC view - only works when sitting in the drivers seat!) = 222,90 Which would result in BRH 200 as the ZDE table says "206 - 227" = BRH 200 So the ZDE Data would be: 9 20(0) 21(0) 20(0) BRA = 9 BRH = 200 ZL = 210m VMZ = 200km/h EDIT: Edited using a timetable example Note: VMZ should be the VMAX in the used timetable as SMR is VMAX 160km/h (no LZB) correct should be 16(0) as far as I do understand.
Can you please post the data of the train? Formation + weight (as shown in overview) + length (as shown in overview). Which would result in 070 or 080 not 990.
The MFD Is the only version with the zero come all other versions work without problems but this thing only gives fault messages without end in addition it comes that the AFB does not work and it shows 1000 hz even though the train is standing and that for about 1h
And the train consits of which coaches to calculate the BRH? We need the "Bremsgewicht" Break weight for caluclation. We now have length and weight, but still not the "Bremsgewicht".
You are not using the correct values. The Bremsgewicht of the 101 is 168t. Blue = Mass - Red = Bremsgewicht R+E = 168t (BR 101) And coach:
This is why I listed you the BREAKweights in my post: Bremsgewichte / Break weight: Steuerwagen InterCity / Cab Car = 90t Intercitywagen 1. Klasse / IC Coach 1st Class = 107t Intercitywagen 2. Klasse / IC Coach 2nd Class = 108t Baureihe 101 / Loco = 168t
The train data input (ZDE) is a bit tricky on the MFD variant. 1. The reverser needs to be in Forward (V) and the locomotive has to be stationary. 2. Input BRA, BRH, ZL and VMZ. 3. Press E 4. Confirm again with E 5. Press PZB Acknowledge to "lock in" the data. 6. Done.
Yes, I try to do that all the time and I try to recalculate it again and again, but A I'm too stupid for math C the vehicle doesn't want to accept that Because after all the calculations 160m Circa 690t=circa 80% (is not recognized by the system only 20-22% Old version BRA/9 BRH 83 zl 16 vmz 20 And all is working
Would you be so nice and give me the train formation like this: 1x BR 101 5x IC 2nd Class Coach 3x IC 1st Class Coach 1x Cab-Car So we can calculate it with your screenshot above? 83 is not a correct value, refer to the ZDE tables I posted above.
BRH 83 is wayyy too high in the ZDE Remember that the number is in tens. So 83 would be 830. If you want to input Brh = 83 (i.e. the braked weight is 83% of the train weight), the number should be converted with the table in the manual. The ETCS/MFD variant of the BR101 unfortunately doesn't have that table printed on the back of the cab IRL. In any case the value to input is 08. So try these numbers: 9 : 08 : 16 : 20
One thing to note is that the IC coaches do not have automatic load proportional braking (i.e. the brake force does not increase with a higher weight) so to be perfectly realistic you would use the larger mass number printed on the side of the coach, if the train is in service with passengers (for an empty stock move you can use the lower number). In this case the weight is 51t for both the 1st and 2nd class coaches while it is 53t for the cab car.
Yes, sorry, I've made everything completely new So it would now have to be such a Formation KWG B 25 Leipzig 21 Cologne 23 The calculation is now based on train weight plus the brake weight
My example of 422t was just a number for how the formula works. Not the real weight of a train formation consisting of the example.
Plus something I missed at first, which might help other people . Press E twice on the MFD softkey to confirm the ZDE entry. Then, importantly, when it asks you to finally acknowledge you press the *PZB* acknowledge button. Threw me at first.
This one is in the manual I'd definitely recommend reading it. A lot of work has been put in and all these things are in there.
If you can tell us the details of the train formation (101, 1 cab car, 3 first class, 3 second class for example) we could give you the correct figures.
Yes, that's where I found the solution but in OPs video they do not seem to show pressing that button unless they used the keyboard.
The problem is There are 3 different versions that have been created where all three previously worked without problems, but now nothing works anymore
Why you just don't tell us the train formation? I have also asked several times for it so we can calculate everything together and give you a solution. This could also help other people for the future.
Leipzig 6 parts 5 cars 1 cab car 4 coaches Only second class 107 t for the break 51t for a car Tsw say 312 t for all but The break wight is (I think) 798t All 1,660 I hope this is correct
Cab car = 90t + 4x 107t = 428t + BR 101 = 168t = 686t BRH = 686*100/312 = 219,87 So from the ZDE Sheet BRH is 200 Values are 9 20(0) 16(0) 16(0) You can also input 20(0) for vmax, but the max speed at this route would be 160km/h as there is no LZB.
