Question Thread - Nahvervehr Dresden Streams

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  1. bobbobberdd

    bobbobberdd Well-Known Member

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    Why are the DB BR 155 and the Red 185 not available as substitutes?
     
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  2. bescot

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    Sorry, I posted this elsewhere, and thought it would be better suited here:

    From the stream today I noticed that some RE can be run with the Traffic Red BR 182 (standalone DLC). This still has sounds broken by the 4.23 update from last year. The MRCE version has much better sounds, can we expect that the Traffic Red version gets some loving for use in BRD?
     
  3. FD1003

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    EDIT: This is not a factor in this route.

    [Introduction: I am not sure how this works in Germany, but here in Italy tilting trains have their own speed category (called P) which has higher speed limits on curves, but those speed limits are not present on the track signage (to avoid clutter the signs) and the driver references the "train card" (a sort of equivalent to the Buchfahrplan) to know the speed limit.]

    My question is, given the fact a non tilting train is subbing a tilting one, will there be any difference in speed limit between the ICE3 [ICE-T] and the BR101? For example the ICE-T might be able to run at 160km/h where the BR101 is limited to 120km/h but obviously I am not sure (especially for that stretch of track).

    If tilting trains were ever introduced for TSW how would you deal with this problem given AFAIK the game doesn't handle differential speed limits, would the line speed just be the tilting train speed with the AI trains going too fast and us having to just know the speed using track-side signs and community made Buchfahrplans?
     
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  4. simon_fielding

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    What does it look like on the menu screen?
     
  5. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    Adding to this question:
    Is there any chance Br 155 substitution will be put in before release or is this something that will be put on Adam‘s list?
     
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  6. bobbobberdd

    bobbobberdd Well-Known Member

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    I can now guess the answer myself. Freight traffic in Dresden actually goes on and on to Schöna and across the national border to the Czech Republic. The 185.5 is the only multi-system freight locomotive
     
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  7. Lamplight

    Lamplight Well-Known Member

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    Oh, didn‘t consider that. Still, seems a shame to have an east German route in the former DDR and not put the 155 on its home tracks.
     
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  8. Mat_Jam_Ca

    Mat_Jam_Ca Well-Known Member

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    The max speed on the route is 160kph so both the ICE 3 (406) and 101 can run at full line speed on the route.
     
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  9. FD1003

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    That wasn't the problem, the fact is that the ICE-T has a max speed of 230km/h and could go faster than a non tilting trainset on curves, after a lengthy research I discovered that in germany there is another system called GNT which (as I suspected) allows tilting trains (like the ICE-T but unlike the ICE 3) to go up to 30% faster than the "regular" speed limit.

    However on the german wikipedia page there is a list of where this system is in place and Riesa-Leipzig is not one of them, so it wouldn't apply here. Next time I'll search first and then ask.
     
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  10. OnlyMe1909

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    Can we please have a definite answer tomorrow as to the availability of all layers on PS4 and Xbox. I realy hope we get it all. The point of missing layers is creating more and more frustration with me personally. DTG said they were looking into bringen the missing layers on HMA to the PS4/Xbox consoles via way of a seperate timetable, but we haven't heard anything about that for a very long time.

    We pay the same price for the DLC, so we are entitled to the same content as the other platforms. By giving some platforms more content then others, you're only creating inequality and feelings of frustration and discrimination.
     
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  11. Task

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    Can you please show a proper "Rush Hour" service tomorrow? The services in the first run were either before or after Rush Hour.

    Some ideas for interesting services:
    • RE 15/18 Großenhain <> Dresden (Talent 2)
    • S1 Coswig <> Dresden (BR 143 as we already saw the 146)
    • Freight Riesa <> Dresden (but the two above would be more interesting to me personally)

    Can you also please show the destination picker in the BR 442, BR 143?

    Will we get the off-map destinations on release or will they come with an update / never?
     
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  12. gprili80

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    Hi everyone at DTG, is it possible to have a stream quality (youtube/twitch) that is not constantly tearing on the screen and seems to be at less than 30fps (even if during gameplay the fps counter is 59.99)?

    The quality of the stream lately seems to be on a cheap underpowered old PC and it makes very difficult to evaluate a new route for buying.
     
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  13. Task

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    Or on consoles with crashes / missing sound / other issues. The preview streams in the last time were pretty bad to show the new products you want to sell to us.
     
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  14. breblimator

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    I also think it's time to invest in the right equipment, proper "OBS" configurations, and know-how. Matt's team hasn't been streaming since yesterday, but a little longer. My eyes hurt already :o
     
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  15. bobbobberdd

    bobbobberdd Well-Known Member

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    Two Question for the second Stream

    Before you decided to add the Blue 363 to this route, was there a Layer planned for the Ruhr Sieg Nord 363 or nothing at all?


    Would it be possible to get the DB BR 204 from Main Spessart Bahn as a Substitute?
     
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  16. Bradley

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    Is There any scenarios with dynamic weather?
     
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  17. erg73

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    Please DTG JD DTG Natster
    I always have to fight for the automatic subtitles on Youtube on your channel. This morning they were working perfectly but I don't know who came up with the brilliant idea to cut the countdown minutes at the beginning of the video, so of course the subtitles have stopped working.
    Please don't edit the video afterwards, I don't think anyone would mind moving the countdown minutes forward, if you cut it, those of us who use subtitles will be left without them.
     
  18. stujoy

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    All routes with layers could be considered more expensive than the price without the stuff required for the layers. They are more of a bonus if you own the other trains, rather than a requirement. If you already own them it increases the value of those previous purchases. Both things add up to a simple concept… If you want everything, you need to buy everything. If you do decide to buy HRR and the 101 to enable a dozen or so services in this route you will get HRR, a great route in its own right, with a lot more than a few services for your money.

    You’ll only need to buy the old 363 if you want the content that comes with the old 363. Nothing has changed because of this 363. When new stuff is released it never adds layers to existing routes so you are safe there. Adam’s lot may add layers in the future but for that eventuality see the above concept. If there are already layers in other routes for the old 363 then you only miss out on them by not having the old 363 and that will always be the case, and the same concept as above will also apply if the old 363 is used to add layers to future routes. You will never ‘need’ to buy it though, always a personal choice ;)
     
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  19. breblimator

    breblimator Well-Known Member

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    Besides - with BRD we get 363*, for which we would normally have to pay.
    * Usable - no scenarios or RSN content. But that's nice, still :)
     
  20. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    Cheers stujoy . I’ve picked the 101, realised I already had the route in the end.
     
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  21. stujoy

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    lol :D
     
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  22. Cash

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    For the next stream, could we please watch some trains come in and out of Dresden at rush hour time. We didn’t get a good ‘rush hour’ feel of tuesdays stream.

    Play a short s-Bahn service please, and please show the talent 2:)
     
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  23. DTG JD

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    Hey - sorry to hear this, I wasn't aware YouTube did this. Having looked at the automatic subs, it sounds like they should be automatically re-added when the video has finished processing. Please let us know if you continue to have issues!
     
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  24. DTG JD

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    I believe we confirmed this last night - TrainSim-Matt?
     
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  25. driverwoods#1787

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    Can you use DB BR146.2 Riesa-Dresden on Schnellfahrstrecke Köln-Aachen RE1 RE4 RE7 Rhein-Ruhr Osten Ruhr-Sieg Nord RE16 Main Spessart Bahn Or not? Since there are players in the community that have train simulator world 2 and 2020 owned should Main Spessart Bahn DB BR185.2 Rallion paint be layered here or not? Basically adding more variety to the freight services
     
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  26. Swisstrains

    Swisstrains Well-Known Member

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    so the Br185.2 and Br155 are not being layered for freight services at this point.
    The Br146.2 will not appear on MSB, and according to that my hopes are low to find it somewhere else.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe in a future update and for Riesa-Dresden DB BR146.2 it's destination board signs FT95 Panel can be retrofitted to Main Spessart Bahn DB BR146.2 including traction motor sounds a whopping noise.
     
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  28. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    Can we please see more of what freight is on the route?

    Layers - can you please give a clear explanation exactly what routes and locos are needed on pc to have an absolute maximum number of services and trains to bring as much life and services as possible

    363 - will owning this on the route mean I have to buy this for the older German routes (which won’t be great) or will this unlock those services on older routes.

    thanks
     
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    Do the autumnal colours/leaf fall vary by month (ie becoming more and more brown as Autumn occurs and fewer leaves as we get closer to the winter months?
     
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  30. erg73

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    I would like to inform you DTG JD that the subtitles are no longer available on the Youtube video of Tuesday's broadcast.
    And I can assure you that they were available yesterday morning, before the initial minutes of the countdown were cut off. So I deduce that this is the cause of the problem.
    I don't know how Youtube works with subtitles, but I think it's quite logical that if they have been previously generated in relation to the playback time, if the playback time is changed, the subtitles will no longer be synchronised, so they would be invalidated.
    I don't know, try to find out why because it's quite irritating that something like this that much more modest channels than yours always have available is not available on TSW.
    Remember that you have customers from many countries around the world that are not English-speaking, and we also like to enjoy the content of the channel and be able to keep up to date with everything that concerns TSW.
    Thank you for your attention.
     
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  31. Swisstrains

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    For the layers: As far as we have seen in the stream on wednesday, the maximum is to also have Hamburg-Lübeck (for Br112), Köln-Aachen (which you should already have, for ICE3M) and Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr, as long as the Br101 (you need Hauptstrecke Rhein Ruhr to run the Br101 anywhere)
    And the last one would be the Br182 in DB livery, for that you need the Br182 add on and Rapid Transit (as far as I know).
    Personally I hope that they will ad the other freight locos in the future, that would mean the route is unbelievable good! (I’m talking about the Br155, Br185.2 and Br182 MRCE)

    That would bring you the following trains (If you have everything I wrote down and Riesa Dresden:
    Br146.2
    Br143
    Br112
    Br185.5 MRCE
    Br261 (older number for the Br363)
    Br406 (ICE3M)
    Br101
    Dosto cab car
    Br182
    Br442 Talent 2

    For the Br363: I think I understood what you mean:
    This 363 is the same as in the additional add on for Ruhr Sieg Nord, BUT it won’t appear on any other route then Riesa-Dresden. The difference is that it’s blue, and it WON’T be appearing on any other route (at this point)

    I hope that I can help,
    Cheers!
     
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  32. trainsimgaming1001

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    We have a release date! 9th of September!
     
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  33. hasse#8149

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    Some of you better start pronouncing nahverkehr better :) nah fer_ker nah means near and ferkehr means traffic so local commuter traffic as opposed to long distance running trains. So nah paus fer_ker
     
  34. drnicktgm#1259

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    Why did you choose to make an 3 car and a 4 car Br442 and not a 2 car and a 5 car one?
     
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    Will the layers to Nahverkehr Dresden (Bahnstrecke Riesa - Dresden) be available on Xbox One and PS4 as well as Xbox Series S / X and PS5?
     
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    They weren't sure during the stream, but said the Tester hadn't found any problems with the layers so far.
     
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    Did TSG have any sort of correlation with making this route? If so, in what way?
     
  39. Bertil Persson

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    Is the Operation Shift Control scheme working on all locos? PC/xBox controller. Mine is not still working.
    Ticket: #NEX-443-43823.

    I'm visally inpaired. It would help me using double horns and PZB/LZB, as I won't have to take my eyes from the screen and look for the keyboard, although I can mostly use keyboard without watching.

    The new HUD and screen fonts are great for me! The new night scenery on Dresden will also help. Trans Pennine is to dark.
     
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    I'm visually impaired. The new HUD and screen fonts are great for me! The new night scenery on Dresden will also help. Trans Pennine is to dark.
     
  41. solicitr

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    Why is there no layer/substitution for the excellent BR 155- in Dresden, or for that matter most other German routes?
     
  42. Bertil Persson

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    I have to reply myself. On Xbox controller for PC it's the X button, NOT the right stick as they say in the settings. Maybe there should be a comment in the settings menu for the Operation Shift Control.
     
  43. Bertil Persson

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    One more please! Have you seen the comments on "Cold As Ice"? When you changed cab and are ready to start, you get stuck on the red light, because of another MBTA on the main line which also gets stuck. Sorry for posting this on the "german" thread, but maybe you can give an answer what's wrong.
     
  44. Oo7 BELL 7oO

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    Why is this route so full of problems on Xbox? Why hasn’t it been tested properly? How does dovetail manage to have a whole team devoted to TESTING and seem to let so many problems slide? Why are routes on PC better than console? Just a few for you to think about.
     
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    1) PCs have more processing power than 8th gen consoles. Simple fact: older consoles can't run as much stuff
    2) A controller only has a handful of buttons, compared to a keyboard's dozens. This makes finding control inputs for consoles a challenge.
     
  46. Bertil Persson

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    Shouldn't there be train lights in the compartments on the AI trains? I boarded an IC as passenger and it was pitch dark. An ICE nearby was the same. The RE train have lights inside. Maybe the extra layers are failing?
     
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  47. Bertil Persson

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    Got the answer from Matt on the stream. Yes, it's wrong and the're working on it.
     
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    Will the epic games be receiving the br101 loco add on?
     

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