Real Driver's View Of Tsw4

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  1. As a real driver I find the sounds and realism of Train Sim World so accurate. The sounds and starting the engines such as the SD40 is so good! It is exactly the same sound as I am used to in Australia where we had the L class under my Government railway and then privatised rail company under Genessee and Wyoming. Now it is all owned by Aurizon.

    For those of you that are consistently disappointed let me assure you of something.

    There is no other game on this planet that I think can get close to Train Sim World. If there is I don't know about it.

    There are the occasional bugs but guess what?
    There is so much content in the game that you can find something else to do while it gets fixed.

    And Dove tail games do fix it.

    And if you think DTG is the only one that makes mistakes get real.

    EA just released a very polished WRC and it still has disappointed folks and a few bits here and there that need fixing etc etc.

    So all in all I give the TSW4 edition a 9.5/10.

    I love the new cabs of the Talent in the Austrian route and the US route and even the Azuma. Very HD cab!!

    Also the photoreal mountains in the Austrian route. Brilliant.

    I have Train Sim Classic and will never go back to it. After Train Sim World's immersion I just cannot do it.
    I do want to see GEML Ipswich and West Coast Main Line with the Class 90/91s etc. But we will have to wait. Good thing is the venture is picking up steam quickly. One innovative person has almost completed the Franfurt S Bahn S6 route!!

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  2. Spikee1975

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    You would make DTG a lot happier if you played both TSW and TSC ;)
     
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    I'm sorry, but I don't find what an Australian driver thinks of TSW's simulation of railways in other countries especially relevant.
     
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    Just on his way to become a DTG Ambassador.
     
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    As long as you're happy I guess nothing else really matters:)
     
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    I just love this forum. It sure has its entertaining moments.
     
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    Good for you for enjoying the game. Happy is all that matters
     
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    Bro has never seen Zusi or SimRail
     
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  9. Thank you for your kind comment.


    Well I have ridden multiple Japanese trains including the Shinkansen dozens of times, Amtrak (NEC and Chicago to New York and Chicago to Los Angeles). and the LIRR. And Swiss trains. I have even been in the cabs of US Dash 8 locomotives.

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    The list of unfixed stuff from the last years is greater then the list of fixed stuff.
    No one said it is the only developer doing mistakes, they are one of the few who never fixes stuff which is broken for years. Also not optimal to compare the first iteration of the new WRC with a 6 year old game. If this was CSX Heavy Haul, OK, but it is TSW4.

    EA / ex Codemasters will have stuff fixed in the next years release and they will learn using UE better. DTG seems not to learn anything, the mess just get's bigger.
    I'll give it a 4 / 10 in the current state.
    I love broken content (Voralberg) and boring content (Azuma) as well.
    SimRail and ZUSI for example. ZUSI not in terms of graphic quality, but for sure in terms of simulation.
    And because they got the sound and physics right for one loco, in your opinion the sound and realism overall is so accurate?
     
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    Being a passenger doesn't make you an expert...
     
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    And TSC 9.5/10 for the steam experience as opposed to about 3/10 in TSW (1.5/10 for the Flying Dustbin).
     
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    I’m an F1 fan and I watch every F1 races, I’m an expert because I watch it so Mercedes should call me to sort out why the W14 is trash.
     
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    Their are problems with the simulation of Steam trains in TSW? You must be joking! DTG promised since Spirit of Steam that they will enhance and improve the simulation of steam engines. So it must be a 10/10 by now! Just tell me the passenger system which came with Rush Hour is still not working? Or are their even routes which came with rush hour and don't have the rush hour feature until today?
     
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    Nahverkehr Dresden plays like every other route, I actually forgot the whole "Rush Hour" thing even existed. The passenger density variables are set to the default like on every other route (which is a 1.0 for the regular DensityScale variable and 2.0 for the new "DensityScaleNew" variable, which is most likely the "Rush Hour" density scaling variable for the new passenger scaling system introduced with the "Rush Hour" content, which also by the way, can be force enabled or disabled via setting the console var or using God Mode, but it apparently is broken too, it is set to Auto by default everywhere), like unironically I'm currently trying to figure out what the heck is going on with passenger spawning because it's acting so damn weird on all routes, and I'm not the only one with those problems. No matter what values I set, no matter how high the MaxPlatformPassengers var is, all stations and platforms end up with ~10 passengers half of the time, and the other half of the time there are no passengers at all. They disappear randomly into thin air all the time, literally even when they spawn or get out of the train.
     
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    Very interesting info in your post, and I learned something new here as well. It is nice that you put effort in it, in the end DTG should take a look into the passenger system, not "again" the community to find out what's going on.
     
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    The Jubilee and 8F are still way overpowered.
    The 4F outperforms the 8F.
    Flying Dustbin physics are a joke, virtually impossible to run out of steam.
    The consumption of coal and water and management of reserves is non existent.
    You still get the "game over" in so called manual firing mode after about 5 minutes if you forget to open the firebox doors. TSW steam train fires have less potency than an old council house fireplace and the roaring inferno goes out if it doesn't get any coal in those 5 minutes. Tender water level on the Dustbin didn't drop the entire 70 whatever miles from Peterborough to Doncaster.
     
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    My posting was sarcasm ;-)
     
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    It’s also the least user friendly software I’ve encountered in a long, long time.

    There are advantages to a plug and play experience even if the sounds and physics are only 90% right. TSW loads quick, doesn’t crash, looks good, and works well. I don’t see how you could recommend anything else to beginners.
     
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    For beginners, yes. For simulator enthusiast it is something I would recommend.
     
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    Which, until Amtrak lets me take the Northeast Regional for a spin, I and 99% of those on this forum will probably always be.
     
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    I know but thought it worth noting the issues in case anyone from DTG is looking (or cares).
     
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    That would explain a lot of the physics.
     
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    That’s horrible to see…
     
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    Honestly, TSW's physics engine is really, really good IMO, though it is unfortunately too reliant on trains, I noticed small to very noticeable differences between various trains, especially on trains with "lower quality" (by that I mean overall just badly developed trains with various bugs)
     
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    Lol, no.
     
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    I think I’ll just leave this right here since I called it for what it was several weeks ago and was told I was “being grossly unfair.” If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

    I’m not calling TSW4 a horrible game but the OPs post is highly flawed and inaccurate.
     
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    Another amazing thread on our forums :)

    Kinda confused; shouldn't it be standing upside down ?! :D

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    One thing can be said, this forums "community" never disappoints.
     
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  35. 20231108144311_1.jpg

    Rush Hour-London Brighton.... passengers working as advertised.
     
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    Main Spessart Bahn.


    Plenty of passengers.....


    No issue here.
     
  37. Nahverkehr Dresden at Riesa
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    Passengers working ok!

    Even workers turned up.
     
  38. The Rush Hour route Providence to Boston I have checked has passengers.

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    Man there are no passengers in the first image. How does this help your point exactly?

    Stop digging, you are either blindsided to the reality of the poor(ish) quality of this game and its content or indeed are trying to become an ambassador.
     
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  40. All the passengers are in the depot.
    TSW4 Zombie Edition..
     
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    Now let’s see following the Rivet announcement…
    TSW RhB Bernina Bahn will be Ospizio Bernina (a minor intermediate station) to Tirano.
    TSC RhB Bernina Bahn is St Moritz to Poschiavo, an important town and station where some trains terminate and one of the line’s depots is located. Later added Poschiavo to Tirano which has a Workshop merge that supplies the full run from St Moritz to Tirano.

    TSW version doesn’t even include the line’s northern hub and depot at Pontresina.

    TSW version will have one train, the modern unappealing Allegra EMU and no passenger rolling stock.
    TSC version has the Allegra (which in fairness isn’t too bad :)), plus the traditional electric railcars which were the mainstay of passenger traffic and haulage on the line for many years, plus some passenger coaches and freight stock.

    Not hard to see what has the edge here, about the only thing the TSW version will have is the all day timetable, but what’s the point if one third of the line and a key interchange are missing.
     
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    I think he said there are other wagons included. I need to watch the stream again.

    Hentis
     
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    Hey everyone,

    I am honestely quite dissapointed in the amount of gatekeeping and heckling going on in here.
    Criticisism towards us as a company is fine. But telling others how they should feel or making fun of them for enjoying something, no matter how they express that, is not.
    You have a lot of options for how to react to a forum post, but I ask that you choose kindness over harshness when you do.

    All the best,
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