Reversing Backwards Of Trains

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  1. Xander1986

    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    I've played a lot of scenarios in TSW and one thing that i hate is the step to set the reverser in backwards and drive to a point....

    Let me be clear.... Driving backwards from the front cab is with (passenger) trains a absolute No-Go! The most trains have a rear and a front cab and in TSW you have the beautiful option to walk around.... So my request....
    Please stop to use this option and use it only in rare cases.

    Yes i now there are some situations where a second man is standing at the rear of the train and speak via a short communication with the driver and comments the situation but thats in normal operation an absolute "rare case" And only in safe spaces on depots and places with low speeds. And if a can give a option for a nice new scenario....

    Use BR363 and bring in or out some trains so it is real life at stations and trains with no second cab/coach trains. Good exemple is the JT Blackpool Branches route.
     
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    390001 Well-Known Member

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    What about a set back procedure when you woukd put the train in reverse with passengers on board ??
     
  3. Xander1986

    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry what do you mean with passengers?
     
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    390001 Well-Known Member

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    It’s a procedure we do IRL in certain circumstances which I won’t go into but basically with authority you can set back. This is when you are authorised to put the train into reverse and “set back” even with passengers on board.
     
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    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah thats what i written already... And only with a second man at the rear.... Its so i called a rare subject.... But yeah it happens but not by trains with a second cab....
     
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    390001 Well-Known Member

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    Doing a set back procedure you won’t have a second man in the rear cab
     
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    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    Oh sorry i read the "set back" in a different way.... If you missed the platform its a produce that you do with the signaler what i mean is reverse the train and driving a way longer part for example in a yard
     
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    390001 Well-Known Member

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    Ah yeah that’s a big no no and wouldn’t happen irl with passengers.
    Freight is different as you will have yard staff with a radio who set the points then instruct a driver to move (in reverse) this is done at slow speed obviously.
     
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  9. Xander1986

    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    Correct :) And why you should do that in TSW... It have so nice detail trains with nice interiors so a walk to the other end is fun to do. :)
     
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    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    Depends on the country and system.
     
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    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    without a second man it is.... And reversing from trains with both ends driver options for sure
     
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    Used to happen regularly at Inverness with trains from the south running via Rose Street Curve and reversing into a north platform to interchange with trains to Kyle and Wick, or vice versa trains from the north run past and reverse into the south platforms. This even happened in steam days, no back to back radios just a shunter watching out and putting the “jigger” (emergency brake valve) in, in the brake van. Would never happen these days with health and safety but propelling moves do still occur with freight and loco hauled passenger stock, though with multiple units generally yes the driver would change ends rather than propel.
     
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    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    In Wick most trains are trains with a cab an both sides.... Class 158 there the train driver change ends and go the other way... What i written is drive reverse without changing ends.... So if you make a scenario change the cab and reverse thats realistic. By trains with coaches is a different story
     
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    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

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    I was about to say this and saw your comment. About a decade or so ago I had a trip from Inverness to Kyle of Lochalsh and on the return the train as direct Kyle to Aberdeen service so we ran via Rose Street curve and then reversed into the south facing platforms (Though I can't recall if the driver switched cabs.

    Even before then, I did the three day Western tour from Bristol to Kyle, First day it was Bristol to Inverness, second day it was Inverness to Kyle and then the third day back to Bristol. Because of the length of the train the Western ran into the southbound platforms. So on the second day, we boarded, the train reversed out the platforms and then ran via Rose Street curve, we did the same on the return as well.
     
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    A western tour reversed out of and then later into Inverness with Passengers on board because of the platform lay out.
     
  16. eldomtom2

    eldomtom2 Well-Known Member

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    What are you trying to say?
     
  17. Xander1986

    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry i mean "with" and not "without" but that is really obvious right?!
    So if there a is second man for you at the end and communicate with you about the distance
     
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    I took the train from Montreal to Ottawa, and to get out of the Montreal train station, the train reversed for a few miles, and then later due to a broken train, my train had to push it into a siding and then reversing to get back to the main track, and all the passengers were onboard during all those time
     
  19. eldomtom2

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    ...that wasn't the post of yours I was quoting.
     

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