Riesa-chemnitz (karl Marx Stadt): Linking Dra With Tharandter Ramp Dresden-chemnitz

Hi guys it's me Driverwoods#1787 and I'm suggesting the Riesa-Chemnitz Railway which will link Riesa-Dresden with the new German route on the Roadmap Tharandter Ramp Dresden-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt)

Contents

• Map
• Description
• Rolling Stock
  • DLC
  • Layers from German Routes
• Service Pattern
• Pictures
• Videos
• Final Thoughts

Map

Description
Riesa-Chemnitz old name during the German Democratic Republic Years Karl Marx Stadt is a line that runs 66 km (41 mi). From it's terminus in Riesa where Riesa-Dresden Ends towards the end point of Tharadter Rampe Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) Hbf via Dobeln where it intersects Meissen Leipzing Line. After Dobeln Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) line goes through a valley where it uses Heiligenborn viaduct to cross Zschopau then eventually Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) Hbf. Was built from 1847-1852 Line was electrified in 1991 and uses DDR Deutsche Reichsbahn Standard Hl signal which is seen in Riesa-Dresden.

Rolling Stock
DB BR 156/DR BR 252

The next generation East German Electric Locomotive. From the German Wikipedia Page DB BR156/DR BR252 was built in 1991 with a max speed of 125 km/h 78 mph for freight and passengers and equipped with East German PZ80 signaling. On this route DB BR156/DR BR252 will do freight services between Riesa and Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) using the existing Wagons from RSN Falns 183 Roos-t tree trunks Shimms TTU Main Spessart Bahn Habbiins Paper Roll Wagons Shimms U-708 Steel Coil & Zacns Tanker Wagon. For new freight wagons, these are Ealos-T wood chip wagons followed by a boxcar the Gbs 258 can be paired with DB BR156/DR252 if the community wanted more German Freight Wagons.

Alstom Coradia Continental BR1440

Built from 2012-2020 these are the staple in both German Regional & S-Bahn Traffic. With the DB Traffic Red version seeing regular Service on the Rhein Ruhr Osten Wuppertal-Hagen S8 route. In the case of the Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) route, these BR1440 are in White/Green Paint. This BR 1440 will serve as the base model for RRO DB BR1440 if Riesa-Chemnitz was to be made for TSW 2 then come as DLC to RRO. On Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) the BR1440 operates RB45 Riesa-Chemnitz regional trips. Other trips start at Elsterwerda 2hr 30 away from Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt).

DLC
DB BR 228/DR BR 118

Built from 1960-1966 as an East German Diesel Hydraulic locomotive Equivalent to the West German DB BR220. Their main use was Express Passenger service and freight services on all East German mainline which included Riesa-Dresden and Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt). For passenger services, the DB BR228/DR BR 118 uses steam heaters to supply heating for passenger coaches.
Layers from other German Routes
DB BR 155 DR BR 250

If RSN is Owned with the Purchase of DB BR155/DR BR250 then it can substitute for DB BR156/DR BR 252 on Freight services on Riesa Chemnitz. A future DLC will have this locomotive bundled with DB BR232 DR BR 132 DB BR 204 DR BR V100 DB BR143/DR BR243 as the legends of the DDR with these locomotives doing both freight and passengers.
DB BR 143 DR BR 243

These routes are owned which are Ruhr Sieg Nord Riesa Dresden and the Dresden Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt Route) on the road map. These will do both freight and Dostos using an Older Time table pre-Transdev take over. In the case of the current timetable substitute the BR 1440 on RB45 Riesa Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt). If was Riesa-Dresden was owned then operate RB45 Zeithain Riesa Chemnitz provided DTG links DRA with BRC Bahnstrecke Riesa Chemnitz.
DB BR 204 DR V100

These East German shunters can work at Gbf Riesa and Chemnitz in older Deutsche Reichsbahn DDR Timetables written as Karl Marx Stadt. Requirements are Main Spessart Bahn and purchase of DB BR204 for Main Spessart Bahn to have them activated on Riesa Chemnitz.
DB BR232/DR BR132
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For owners of Ruhr-Sieg Nord combined with the purchase of DB BR232. This Deutsche Bahn formerly DDR Deutsche Reichsbahn locomotive will do both freight on this route using wagons it comes with on RSN. In a special legend of DDR DLC if made then it will do both freight and passenger on Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) Riesa Dresden and Dresden Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) Thrandter Rampe route.
Service Timetable
From the German language website of Transdev Mitteldeutsche regiobahn RB45 Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) timetables from 12/13/20-12/13/21 are in PDF format. Trips between Riesa and Chemitz take 61 minutes if route construction occurs; these trips take 1hr 12 to Riesa but 2hr 30 for the entire run from Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) to Elsterwerda via Zeithain. Normal operation for Chemnitz Riesa Zeithain Elsterwerda trips take 1hr 27.
Pictures
Dobeln Hbf

Junction of Riesa Chemnitz line with Meissen Leipzig Railway line picture is by 0815 Art Director
Riesa Bahnhof

The start point of Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) Railway and the junction of Riesa-Dresden Railway in-game as rush hr route. The picture is by Jwaller
Kummersmuhlen Viaduct

The picture is by Tnemtsoni
Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) Hbf

End point of Riesa Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) Railway and meet the new route Tharandter Rampe Dresden Chemnitz. The picture is by Michael Kummling
Videos

2007 Cab View of Riesa-Chemnitz final destination is Elsterwerda via Zeithain Video is by Bahn Tv uploaded by noncompot


RB45 leaving Chemnitz for Riesa and ride both are taken by Angelo Muller

RB45 Riesa Chemnitz with DB BR 143 Dosto taken by Feldbahner in January 2016 uploaded in December 2020
Final Thoughts
Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) Railway is a route that must be added into TSW 2 for three reasons. First of which is that it links the DRA DTG abbreviation of Riesa Dresden with the new route Dresden Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) via Dobeln where this route meets up with Meißen Leipzig Railway. Part of which is playable in Riesa Dresden as the S1 to Meißen. The second reason is that this route features a more scenic route over the Saxon valleys some of them are tall viaducts and offer more East German regional routes. The third reason why the Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) line should be added is that it's going to give all East German DLC locomotives 204,155,143, & 232 a place to run on pre-dating the 1990 German reunification. That includes the new locomotives for this route DB BR156 DR BR252 & DB BR228 DR BR118. Opening up the possibility for a Legends of East Germany pack on Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) if made Riesa Dresden & Dresden Chemnitz(Karl Marx Stadt). In addition to running West German routes RRO RSN Main Spessart Bahn HMA HRR SKA and the single East German formerly Deutsche Reichsbahn DDR Riesa-Dresden MainLine. If DTG gets a Veolia Transdev Licence then RB45 services on the Riesa-Dresden route Zeithain branch becomes playable when combined with Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) Line complete with BR1440. If the Veolia license wasn't obtained DTG will let DRA Tharandter Rampe & RSN owners run DB BR143s with 4th gen Dostos on Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) line to provide more opportunities for DB BR143 to run on. One more option that DTG can do is a long scenario that involves linking DRA Tharandter Rampe and this route Riesa-Chemnitz is a route diversion scenario. That segement is between Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) & Dresden Hbf via Riesa & Dobeln due to a stranded train. You must use BRC this route Riesa Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) and Riesa Dresden to play that long scenario. Long-term plans by DTG might be selling DRA Tharandter Rampe Dresden Karl Marx Stadt (Chemnitz) and this route Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) as the Saxon route network bundle. Overall these are the reasons why Riesa-Chemnitz (Karl Marx Stadt) route must be added to TSW 2. Owners of this route can use BR1440 on RRO if the correct Ingo Ruff S8 announcements are used including S8 Mönchengladbach Hagen as the destinations so is Wuppertal Oberbarmen.

 

i would like it to and it blend well with the upcoming Dresden - Chemnitz

 

I agree because RB45 will give access to Chemnitz Bw and Zeithain on Riesa-Dresden. Speaking of automatic announcements the Silver BR1440 if my suggestion were to be made it will have RB45 Elsterwerda Zeithain Riesa Chemnitz and RRO S8 Mönchengladbach Düsseldorf Wuppertal Steinbeck Hagen Hbf

 

@driverwoods#1787 you can really stop writing "Karl Marx Stadt". Noone in Germany ever uses the GDR name.

 

Thanks for telling me about it because I was actually planning to have a GDR Legends pack for this route Riesa Chemnitz followed by Thrandter Rampe Dresden Chemnitz & Riesa-Dresden.

 

This could be a great extension to Dresden-Riesa and Tharandter Rampe, especially if DGT ever considers map overlays and you actually could travel along the "triangle" from Dresden to Chemnitz, Chemnitz to Riesa and Riesa to Dresden.

My favorite route in TSW so far is Dresden-Riesa. Want to buy Tharandter Ramperbut unfortunatley missed the sale for it lately.

Altough I was born in West Germany after the fall of the wall 89, my family background is connected to the city of Dresden, so Dresden is even more personal to me and I'm glad it is already covered by 2 routes in TSW. Would definitely buy more Dresden content.

And yes, as Lime already said I can confirm you as well that the name "Karl-Marx-Stadt" is not used anywhere in Germany anymore, neither from the official nor the inofficial side (the people's language) - not even my family who lived nearby used that term anymore. It's an old term used for the city in the GDR, when my mother also lived there. After the fall of the wall, the city name changed because of the connection from Karl Marx to the socialsm and comunism I guess. The old city name probably were held a little longer in maps and such to not confuse people and end up somewhere in the Erzgebirge .

 

Thank you for telling me about that and speaking of Riesa-Chemnitz what train should run RB45 since DTG doesn't have a Veolia Transdev license? The best solution is a Red 1440 for this route and layer that to RRO

 

It's a really good route
If you can enjoy the high speed while also being local to the surrounding area,
to the top

 

Don't know. Maybe a DB operated train. I don't know the area pretty well to be honest in real life. Didn't grow up in Saxony, only my mother.

However, I did a bit of research and since there will always be more information in the local language, I found the following part from the german Wikipedia page of the route and translated it. Don't know if it helps you out:

Maybe these Diesel units from the Vogtlandbahn?

And this:

 

Speaking of the diesel units what type are they are they the Siemens Desiro 642 Aschaffenburg Maintalbahn or 650 Stadler. If 650 Stadler they need to have a version capable of cross border to France as seen in Freiburg im Breisgau Offenburg towards Mühlhausen Straßburg (Mulhouse Strasbourg Ville) basically your alt paint. Speaking of the Coradia EMU it's the same one that currently runs on RRO with different Paint Silver and Green instead of Traffic Red.

 

Today, there are running Coradia Continental (which are not! in the game) of https://www.mitteldeutsche-regiobahn.de/de/ueber-uns/fahrzeugpark-der-mitteldeutschen-regiobahn

and as hybrid vehicles of Chemnitz city Bahn the citylink cars
https://www.city-bahn.de/ueber-uns/fahrzeuge/citylink-zweisystemfahrzeug/

 

Saw it and they have a Silver coloured 642 648s. For the Coradia Continental, it's the silver and green colour although DTG needs a Veolia transdev licence for it but the way to get around it is to make the Coradia Continental for RRO/HRR first and then layer it here and run them directly from purchase thanks to the training centre. Remember DB and Metronom also run Coradia Continentals like MRB. Metronom version to run here DTG remakes the TSC Hamburg Hannover and layer it here

 

Nice and my proposed route has two steam Depots at Döbeln & Chemnitz Hillbersdorf

 

Only one depot at C-Hilbersdorf (which is already part of Tharandter Rampe). The other one is located in Nossen, not Döbeln.
But: this is a one man show spare time project. Expect... nothing

 

So, you really want to create that route on your own? Wohoo! I thought the tools and cabapibility (lack of assets, no cooking) of the Editor were to less to really dive into it, yet? But Good luck for it!

I also dream to create one route I like in the future, but don't know if it ever will work out as I plan because of the many hurdles to overcome.

 

I‘ll give it a try. Perhaps not at a quality level of DTG, but we will see…
And of course I need the updates of the editor but I think this wall happen faster then the route project.

 

Let's see how it goes I am actually waiting for the day when the PC editor arrives for the Microsoft store version for PC because as an Xbox user that is simply a free purchase for us