Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG Protagonist, Sep 15, 2020.
Feel free to develop these monthly new routes in 4k for PC and console, yourself.
Why does Rivet take so long? MSB and then waiting for 204 ... again
The 204 is only in Planning badly
It’s just a Loco and no Route
Question about planned Clinchfield railroad. Obviously idea of this road comes from TS. But in TS it expands from Elkhorn to St. Paul and in TSW you are going to cut this road only to Dante. What is the reason of such decision? Can you release full length of this road like in TS?
Routes take longer to develop in TSW, and they wouldn't have enough time to build the full route within the time schedule.
Instead of new routes just extend the branches 10 miles every month or so as a 5 pound dlc
Branches on existing routes where possible ect
Then people will complain there's no new routes/variety. Doing extensions to routes every month (which I think is probably impossible to do in that time frame anyway) would mean sacrificing other possible content.
True but never is there a time when everyone is happy,so what can you do...
Just keep suggesting until most people are
Or reduce your expectations to a healthy amount at which you are happy with a reasonable balance of fixes, improvements and new content in an adequate time frame?
The suggestion i originally made wasnt too unreasonble apart from the time frame,not knowing dtg emloyment numbers and hardware causes my misjudgment of what can and cant be acheived lol,it is why i suggested only 10 miles of new content attatched to an already known loale ect
Does the German BR 101 for Köln-Aachen come with Inter City Cars and a „Steuerwagen“?
DTG said that they are rather interested in exploring new routes than to extend their old ones, and it is not planned to do extensions at the moment.
Mind you, you can just edit your last post, so that you don't have to post three times in a row
[Google translate by Protagonist - please post in English only, thank you]
I don't think this is true, because the distance between Dante and St. Paul is only about 10 miles or so. It's not 20-30-50 miles, and the DTG can easily turn on that area. This route is only planned and does not have an exact release date. For example, the DTG port routes from TS to TSW (Marsail - Avignon, London - Faversham) are the same length without trimming. As for me, I can wait a little longer to get the full length of the Clinchfield railroad. DTG, please note!
I hope it does! That would be great if it did. I also hope that it is the older version of the IC Coaches. The versions where you could drop the big side windows down.
You can edit posts instead of adding a new post for a correction, or if you want to add some extra info. I usually have to edit my posts for spelling errors etc. It’s a really handy function and it saves space on the forum if you just want to add an extra sentence.
This is great! Thank you for creating this.
Assuming the TSW version goes to the yard in Dante, they cut out about 6 miles of track between Dante and St. Paul. Which is honestly quite odd....
Though they did also cut out the connections with the Norfolk and Western too in St. Paul.
I am not sure where you can post questions to go on the live stream or roadmap chat, as it’s a bit of a black hole! But could Passenger Info Screens and destinations on the Class 166 now be added to GWE, also could an extension of some sort be put forward for suggestion?
The stream moderators have a pre-canned reply that we post frequently on both streaming platforms.
"Please make all content suggestions to https://forums.dovetailgames.com/forums/content-suggestions-proposals.75/ "
That is the place to put it. The reasons for this are quite simple - nobody from DTG is making exhaustive notes on every suggestion in chat. Once the stream finishes those suggestions are essentially lost (yes you can replay the stream and read the chat but that is a lengthy affair) so putting them in the forum ensures they are preserved in an easily accessible place.
The latest roadmap didn't get posted to Dovetail Live on Xbox One. All I see is the 1 September article.
Neither on PS4
Looking through the list, though I greatly appreciate the face that you guys are going to do the Clinchfield in the time period everyone loved it in, please, please, PLEASE...do NOT do they're six-axle EMDs as SD40-2s. Clinchfield's SD40-2s were purchased under the Family Lines and painted as such upon delivery. They never saw Clinchfield paint. To do this accurately, a straight SD40 model will need to be created and placed in the 3000-3024 numbering phase. This is, of course, unless the planned time period for the route is after the Clinchfield was folded into the Family Lines, and these showed up, and the F7s were painted into Family Lines paint. Please see the links I've provided for reference.
Pretty happy so far with what you did DTG with TSW2. There are s few things that I think could be improved. Concerning the livery editor (and not sure if this has been discussed previously), a few things that would be desirable and/or fixed.
Adding player-made decals (I want to put graffities and dirt on my cars);
When scaling a decal using X/Y tool from the second page, when the decal is rotated, the X/Y axis are rotated as well and I think they should not;
The option to share players creations with others would be very welcomed;
More fonts.Hopefully some of these additions/fixes are already planned for the future. What turned me off from TSW2020 (barely played it) is the lack of editable content and with TSW2, I see you took care of that and you have my thanks for this!
can you add Belmont park and more track options to LIRR scenario planner and long island city to free roam
Do you think DTG will take in consideration what you asked ?
Eh. Doesnt hurt to try
There’s a special thread and way to ask you genius
These type comments are really not needed. A little tolerance and courtesy goes a long way and I would hope be more of the rule than an exception in these Forums. For the OP requesting additional features, there are other forum threads that are established for requesting new features, routes and locomotives. We would appreciate if such suggestions would be placed there so other discussion can be kept on topic which in this case dicussing the information on the current roadmap.
It’s enough we said several on these type of person how to do it
I have a feeling DTG will just put the Clinchfield livery on the Dash2s, which is kind of disappointing, as they gave us a proper SD40 on the TS version of the Clinchfield Route....
I have a suggestion to improve the list. The category Investigate does not fit properly in the category list. It is not a type of work item, but a state of work. My recommendation would be to set it as a separate status if needed (there is no need, I think In planning may do as well). If you do not yet know if it is a fix or improvement, you may add a a new category, like Unknown or Other.
New dlc ITALIA map ?
no. there is not
Which is EXACTLY why I pointed it out now instead of a two years from now when the first screens of that start to leak.
By then, It'll be too late to do anything about it. Whether if it's in the planning stage or not later on (Which I may have a feeling it'll still be in research for a while) since someone has already decided to put it in the first place. And DTG has always done the new and reused loco tactic on routes before (Peninsula, Oakville) because they said it saves time and resources.
But I could be wrong. Who knows. Odds are it might be the same model with a few minor details added in. (As said here)
I mean, making an SD40 from an SD40-2 shouldn't be as time consuming as making a new locomotive from scratch, as it would need a shorter frame, shorter car body, different trucks, plus the downgrade of the Dash 2 components, all which can be referenced from the model used in TS20XX.
This is true. Believe me, I would like to see an actual SD40 rather than the Dash 2 Variant as it would make much more realistic scene to the route in that era than just going Semi-Fictional that most people are gonna complain about (Like how most of us are right now).
The SD40-2 issue has been raised before and we got this response:
This is blatantly untrue, for the record. I went and looked up all the original SD40 orders and there were 874 US orders compared to only 330 Canadian ones (plus 72 for NdeM and 10 for export).
SD40's were NOT "replaced by SD40-2's" in the 60's considering the SD40-2 didn't even start production until January 1972, and even then it didn't catch on immediately- it wasn't as dominant as it became in US railroads until the late 70's and 80's.
And, of course, as pointed out, Clinchfield didn't own any SD40-2's until they were a part of the Family Lines system, and even then only owned 5. Provided this route appears to be set in the 1970's while Clinchfield was still fully independent, that really does make no sense whatsoever (though I am assuming when it will be set, again, with only 5 Family Lines units it wouldn't make much sense either way, especially concurrent with F units).
DTG seems to make a big deal about being realistic rolling stock in TSW, at least in terms of appearance, as they've indicated long ago that they don't want to do unbranded content in TSW. Wouldn't a fictional paint scheme be worse?
Iirc, the CRR from TS1 is set in the 1980s (Before Seaboard System). And yet, the F7 is included in the route, along with the GP7s as well. Even if the real F7 is gone from their roster at that time. Seems like accuracy is not DTG's strong suit when it comes to equipments (Locos and Rolling Stock). And are just gonna reused locos from older routes because of resource limits.
But, we still have time until it gets to the production stage. Let's hope they change their roster for this route before making it (But it's a slim chance unless we do something about it).
I mean, in terms of specific rolling stock used, they've been bad in TSW before- I hear that doppelstock didn't actually run on Ruhr-Sieg Nord except for the 1-car Iserlohn train. But the trains themselves are still nice and realistic- closest we've had to this big an error is the SW1000R, which almost shipped with a silver roof (which they don't have), but that was fixed before release.
Hopefully this will too, it is after all just in planning, which means they're still doing research. And it appears they have not done much, heh, nor is there much communication with the TS2021 team.
Might aswell change the subject now to something else but I wonder if the southeastern highspeed dlc will include swanscombe station and Northfleet station and fright services aswell
I have a feeling that DTG will do what they did with the WCML on the Bakerloo. You can see it, but not drive on it.
Like a ghost train?
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