As it seems we are getting closer to a time that linking routes could become a possibility if DTG decided to bring out a new route that you choose your own traction from your assets without any locos would you buy it? Personally I would love the ability to have longer joined up modular routes and would happily pay for the privilege to be able to act as allocator and driver by selecting loco and route to a route which is timetabled not “Create”.
I can’t see DTG ever doing that as TSW always has a base timetable with base rolling stock. They might create a route without any new assets (if it hasn’t already been done), but devoid of any, I doubt it. It would simply never get off the ground as sales projections would be in the toilet.
Also traction released with one route may well layer into another - as we have seen extensively with the German stuff in particular. In fact my view is that for £30 routes should be coming with far more traction and rolling stock than what we get - at least two new classes as well as referencing existing content. So an emphatic "no" from me.
Certainly not. Routes without trains or services are useless. It is the playable content that makes TSW what it is, especially the timetable. The lack of decent playable content was always the worst aspect of other train sims I’ve used.
I would love to be able to play whatever traction and rolling stock I want on any route I own, substituting for the ones that came with the route.
I voted no because; I would like to see route extensions of even just extra track length, where stock is already available that would be fine. Though on this topic, ideally I would prefer to see new rolling stock come for new routes.
I'd certainly be happy to have some new routes without any new locos at all if it means having a few more different routes for some of the brilliant existing rolling stock in TSW already. Moreover, having a modular route network is immersive and certainly more realistic for DTG than complex route mergers, while the use of more existing content may mean busier, better timetables like London Commuter and SEHS. I think the idea that every new route must always have a brand-new loco is flawed because it'll get to a point where you'd have potentially no more new trains for a specific region or era, but many great routes still remaining - otherwise if every new standalone route had to always have a new train in a new area it might mean more one-loco routes or empty large stations etc. Just to be clear, I still think new locos with new routes is very important obviously, but not all of the time. There's some brilliant TSW locos and content already, so I don't see why there always has to be more and more locos - it would just be nice to use a lot of the existing locos for more route mileage elsewhere. Of course, I think without any new locos the price of such route would have to be cheaper than the standard price.
The exception might be where locos already exist but bundle with the new route for those who don’t already own them. For example, a 1970’s North Wales Coast should come with the Class 40, Class 47 and 101 DMU. All exist in the game for many years now but would provide a means of producing a much requested and much loved route without much outlay on the stock pack.
Nope. I don't use scenario planner and I've never downloaded anything from CC. I play to play so no trains, no scenarios, no timetable - no game.
For me another important aspect is, that devs also use the existing rolling stock in their timetables. What happend with the trenton dlc, was a level of lazyness which im not willing to support. (No lirr, no csx etc..). A huge slap into the face of usa fans on top. If services has to cut out on the gen8, well just remove them until their "experience" is stable with 1 - 2 locos, but ps5, pc and the high end platform should definetly get the top notch experience with full variety. Looking at the race history, no challenge was ever won with a slow low performance vehicle, nor with lazyness. Its just the way it is.
I voted no because routes now are £29.99 (UK price) and I assume some of that is down to the rolling stock being available as well, let's say for example they offer an extension for Tees Valley from Darlington to Bishop Auckland but with no rolling stock for cheaper...say £25, it would be pointless. Especially if you didn't own Tees Valley, it's just an empty map. About as much fun as toothache.
something like that is on my ideal idea of route extensions, however being at £25 is way too high for what you get usually, more around £12-15 depending on how much track it comes with seems more fair Rivet added in basically a route upgrade and loco for more around the loco dlc price. Which was definitely on good and very fair pricing line however I think dovetail would prefer to just release the usual route and loco rather than divert time to that.
DTG would never release routes without trains. Their business plan is to try and attract new players and the way to do that is to give them a " load and play " introduction to the game. What we need is a proper, TSC- style editor so that those of us who wish can create our own routes, scenarios, consists, our own version of the game in fact.
I might buy a route without any new locos if I like the route enough. Length isn't the only factor though. Needs to offer an interesting drive, preferably allowing me to use a variety of trains I already have in my collection.
I think the only way this would be feasible if it was something like US freight, and if the rolling stock was already part of the base game, this way any new routes would only have to focus on the route and timetable, and not modeling new stock (Unless the included base stock is updated with new cars overtime.) Of course, the only way this would work out well is if the car substitution is ever fixed, which it is not. It would also help livery designer by not having 20 copies of the same car, as well as a base default physics and feature set for all logos and freight cars (Right now US freight content is varied, and it isn't wise to mix the physics of old stock with new ones due to different handling characteristics from SPG to CJP.)
Voted yes because this works well with US Freight routes and selected German routes assuming they use the DB Baureihe 146.2 422 425 442 185.2 406 403. Best example might be Schnellfahrstrecke Stuttgart Ulm where you can use existing trains 403 406 401 daytime while the evening Services get 185.2 future proof ÖBB Baureihe 1016-1216 Nightjet Sleeper NJ237/236 Stuttgart Hbf Venice combined with Euronight 462/463 Kalman Imre Stuttgart Budapest Keleti
