Rsslo 159 No Power In Diesel Mode

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  1. Volvo B10M

    Volvo B10M Active Member

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    I recently bought the RSSLO 159 and it seems to work ok so far in electric mode but on trying to switch to diesel mode it will not work. I push the neutral button, open MCB (observe the MCB icon changed on the screen), lower pantograph (observe the pantographs are lowered by the icons on the screen), push engine start (engine starts successfully), push forward (button illuminates). Then to try and move off I released the brakes (observing 5 bar in the train pipe and 0 bar in the loco brake cylinders), apply power (noticing the change on the screen showing there is power applied on both bars but the HUD shows 0 amps and the train will not move.

    The instruction manual only shows this method for changing power modes but it will not move, how do I get the thing to move on diesel mode?
     
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    Oystein Well-Known Member

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    Have you made custom consists or scenario with it? You need to add the diesel unit to make it work.
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    Did you add the Diesel Cube( in Green) at the correct end?
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    Its a strange way RSSLO made the locos
     
  4. Volvo B10M

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    I only have the base version on steam which is supposed to be dual mode. The engine runs but it will not move on diesel power. How do I add the cube mod?
     
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    Oystein Well-Known Member

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    It comes with the base version. Should be something about it in the manual. But you add it the same way as other engines in scenario editor. I assume you have tested it in electric mode? Just make sure handbrake is released to be able to make it move.
     
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    No, I have run it on electric and diesel mode but it will not move in diesel mode.
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    Although you can start the Diesel Engine, open the throttle the loco will not move unless the Green Cube is also attached.

    Have a look at Page 8 in the manual that comes with the loco
    - it shows the loco and the cube which is a Green Block that is invisible when you run the loco

    Have you ever edited a scenario?
     
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    I added it to free roam as I won't have all for scenarios without the route, I only have the grey cube to select formation. I can't write timetables so I can't add scenarios, I can only find DE manual which is no use, trying to find it under EN and I only get the BREL 159.
     
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    If you look at the website on Steam for the 159 there is a link to the manual
    https://store.steampowered.com/manual/2009523

    Just because you don't have the required stock for an included scenario does not stop you from swapping the 159 in to any other scenario.
     
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    I gather from the manual it is only possible to have one running on diesel or on electric, it appears to not be possible to have one that is possible to change between modes.
     
  11. Oystein

    Oystein Well-Known Member

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    No problem using both electric and diesel mode.
    All you need to do is to add the diesel unit/cube in scenario editor.

    But if you want an AI to use diesel you have to enter a specific number for the loco, 213 I believe.
     
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    749006 Well-Known Member

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    Then you did not read the manual
    I have had this since it came out and I run scenarios that start on Diesel and swap to Electric on the move and v.v

    As I said in post #7
    Have a look at Page 8 in the manual that comes with the loco
    - it shows the loco and the cube which is a Green Block that is invisible when you run the loco

    In the editor pick the loco and place it on the track then pick the green cube and couple it at the correct end as shown by the arrows
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    I did read the manual and I followed what it said it but it did not work, the engine had no power on diesel mode and the option for diesel on default did not work.
     
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    You must be doing one of the sequences wrong as it works for other people.

    Make sure the Pantograph is down and the MCB tripped.
    Start the Diesel Engine and - if the cube is attached - it will drive.

    You can see the Cube is attaches as it shows as TWO items in the HUD at the bottom even though you only seem to add the loco.

    Are you trying a pre made scenario or Quick Drive/Free Roam -
    The loco won't work on Diesel in Quick Drive or Free Roam unless the Cube is added.

    When you are in the scenario that does not work take a picture showing the F3 or F4 HUD at the bottom.
     
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    Should I be able to reverse the loco in the area I added the diesel mode? At the moment it is acting if I am backing on to rolling stock that isn't there. Often when I try and add it on the loco It disappears, I have to add it to the track and move the loco as close as possible.
     
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    No.
    The Diesel Cube is not visible when you are driving.
    You have to be in the Scenario Editor and place the loco on the track then select the Diesel cube and move it to the loco until the green arrows touch.
    Only then will the loco work in Diesel Mode.
    Follow the instructions in the manual as per the picture above
     
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    I do have the Holzkirchen - Worgl route for this loco and it has a tutorial on how to drive in both modes. Although the on-screen instructions are not that clear it is relatively easy to change modes. First, you are in a yard and are requested to start the diesel engine by pressing the yellow button then it asks you to wait for the signal to clear which I did and opened the throttle after releasing but nothing happened so I started probing around the cab for a button or switch that I need to operate and I found one on the right called spring brake release so I released that and was able to move. A short time down the track doing about 50 KPH you are asked to change to electric which again is relatively easy. Raise the pantograph using the P key or F4 hud then in the cab on the left push the Main Switch Control switch forward to start the electric motor.

    From the manual.

    2.3. Start-Up procedure 1. Release the spring brake (Picture1 – Number 8). 2. Select the direction of travel (Picture1 – Number 10). 3. Turn on the headlights (Picture1 – Number 5). 4. Raise the pantograph (Picture2 – Number 8). a. If there is no catenary, please use diesel motor. (2.3 Start-Up procedure – number 6) 5. Turn on the main switch (Picture2 – Number 7). a. Only if the pantograph is raised b. Wait 5s after the pantograph is raised 6. Turn on diesel motor (Picture2 – Number 9). a. If there is no catenary, you need to use Diesel motor 7. The Euro Dual is now ready.
     
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    Try doing that like the OP without having the Diesel Cube attached to the loco
    The Diesel Engine will start but you won't have any power to the motors.
     
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    That is right you have no power to the motors until you release the the spring brake.
     
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    But the OP can move it in Electric so he has already released the Spring Brakes.
    And, as I already said, he might be able to start the Diesel Engine but without the Diesel Cube it won't provide power to the motors.
     
  21. Volvo B10M

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    I have gotten the cube as close as possible but it seems if I try to make it touch the other arrow it immediately disappears as soon as it is let go, should this mean diesel is on? If I put it further away it seems to snap to the track which causes an invisible object to be in that location if I was to drive towards that area on electric mode, If I try to switch to diesel it does not want to move as before. This is rather confusing, I am more used to the AP method of ;HL=1 on the number to set defaults. With this loco is it then only possible to be on diesel once diesel mode is working?
     
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    When you place the diesel cube on the track the green arrow might point away from the loco. If it is pointing away it won't be possible to connect it to the loco.

    Click on the green cube, press the orange arrow so that the green arrow is pointing towards the loco.
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    Now click on the cube and drag it into the loco.
     
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