Hi there, fairly new to TS Classic and been playing with Builder Route and Scenario Creation. I have the latest versions of Steam and TSC and DLC's all downloaded and installed in the last 3 months. I have come across a problem after trying all the different fixes suggested across forums videos etc. I have been using the Liverpool Manchester via Warrington Central Route and created a scenario with a kuju Class37 BR Blue with Ploughs and 10 x 100tonne TEA Wagons. One scenario I have created has been successful, starts with the Player Spawn and fully formed consist of the class37 and attached 10 x TEA's, propelled to sidings, where I drop 5 in one siding and 5 in another siding and drive the class 37 away. When I come to make the separate return scenario, so go to sidings with a Class37 to collect the two sets of 5 Tanks which are in separate sidings, no matter what I have tried I cannot couple the TEA Tanks to each other in the scenario. So followed the ADD to procedure's, tried marshalling etc etc, I can couple the Class37 to the first 5 TEA Tanks (rear or front) but when I come to couple the Class37 with 5 TEA Tanks to the next 5 TEA TANKS nothing happens, no visual wagons in the HUD, have experienced what some have reported as the loud explosion noise, not all the time, and the final thing I have just tried after hours of different things, should have tried this first, I placed 1 TEA Tank in one siding and another single TEA Tank in another siding, coupled one to the Class37, then tried to couple these to the next TEA Tank and nothing will not couple, I can couple the Class 37 to all Tanks front and rear no problem at all, I can couple the Tanks to each other when placing them on the Tracks from the Editor, but try and couple them in a scenario using a driver and loco, can couple already coupled TEA Tanks say in a 10 Tank formation, but cannot couple the TEA Tanks to make a formation. Feel like I probably am missing something, but wondered of there was a bug or problem that with coding that I have not read about yet. Thanks in advance
You must be sure to include the exact IDs of each tanker in the couple-to-front/back instruction. It's easy to make a mistake here as you have to keep track of where each car is as the scenario evolves in your head. Also choose the correct side front or back.
Hi Spikee thanks for the reply. Yes I agree, and wondered whether I was missing something in that respect. Watched a few videos describing freight scenarios, and could not find any issues with my ID's and order location etc. I am sure that I'm missing something. I can't publish my scenario I believe because I made the mistake of using assets from many different locations. Sorry for the long winded description, I have made the Sidings myself added them to the route at the end of an existing siding/spur, signaled by the original route onto the main line, bidirectional track for yard traffic manual points. The two sidings are dead end with buffers and stop lights, marked with sidings markers. They join with a manual set of points to a single bidirectional line, which ends up at the main line about a mile away with signal. Signalling Onto main line works okay with pre built coupled formation/consist. The bit that has thrown me is I can't even couple two tanks together in the sidings part of the scenario. First instruction So class37 couple add to rear, 1 tank, ID 12345 in siding 1 (couples okay to rear of loco) default options ticked. Next instruction drive consist to shunt point (destination marker) outside sidings (no errors) next instruction add to rear, 1 tank ID 54321 in siding 2 (no errors apart from the std static consist clash warning). So driving the instructions, all works fine until I try to couple to the 2nd tank, I have the class37 and tank ID 12345 coupled I reverse them onto tank ID 54321 but the HUD does not show the ability to couple the tanker, destination set at temporary destination marker 3/4 mile away outside the sidings. I have checked the settings, couple to all ticked, auto coupling disabled etc. if I move tank 12345 to siding 1 again detach then shunt the loco to siding 2 and try to couple tank 54321 no problem. Whichever way I try I can't seem to couple the tea tanks together. A thought has just crossed my mind. In the add to rear instruction, so the first instruction I have put the first wagon ID in the field (not included the loco ID) in the second add to rear instruction I have only put the ID of the second wagon to pick up, I have not included ID of the wagon already added in the first instruction. I will try that as ignored that option on the grounds that if you don't show the loco because the system already knows it's there, then when adding wagons to an existing consist, the system must already know they are there. Lol I am also going to try some different wagons to see if I can couple these.
Just an added update. So I have tried creating formations with any number of other freight Rolling Stock with the route & scenario I am using and everything couples okay, can move from siding to siding and couple any number of Wagons. The TEA TANKERS will not couple. I can create a formation or consist of 2 or more TEA Tanks already coupled and then couple to the loco, but cannot couple 1 or more TEA Tanks or consists of TEA Tanks to another formation or consist of TEA Tanks when using a loco in a scenario Strange !
I just did a Free Roam by placing 4 different TEA tankers on different sidings Then using the Kuju 37 I was able to couple the wagons together and shunt them. But this is without instructions - just running in sidings - so wagon numbers are not used I suspect it might be something to do with the coupling instructions - coupling front or rear of the loco? I don't have a scenario that involves coupling of the TEA tanks to try.
Not being able to have a look at the scenario, I'm pretty sure your couple-to instructions are wrong.
Hi Spikee and Peter. and for all that may come across a similar issue. I have just purchased the Class 70 - Addon DLC which includes the oveee TEA Tanks updated, this has solved the problem straight away, exact same instructions and works....... Yes sad man, reminiscing, creating a scenario from my days on the footplate back in the 1990's, 3am Tank formation lol thanks for your suggestions
Same era then, I was off the street to a passenger/freight Guard based at Longsight 1990 then moved to Leeds RRNE for driver position. My scenario which had problems with Tanks was the Glazebrook Tanks from Ashburys, a 3am Guard & Driver shift from longsight taking 10 loaded tanks to Glazebrook (possibly 7M42) waiting to empty and returning with 6E20 to Ashburys around 10am, I was Guard usually a class 37, spent many of a lovely night trying to get comfy in the second mans seat at Glazebrook trying to sleep lol
I was a box lad at Stockport 72-74, Guide Bridge Guard 74-76, Piccadilly Guard 76-92 then went Driving. In 2002 I moved in to Northern's planning office due to health reasons. Retired in 2016 after 44 years.
Probably bumped into each other 90-92 on the Guarding duties around Piccadilly Altrincham etc etc. On my first Guarding Engineering Works on my own, Guide bridge to Piccadilly Station replacement sleepers, when the ripped up all the Timber and replaced with Concrete sometime around 91/92, had the wonderful Guards Van with Stove and Tea Can, dropped off the consist with a class 31 some flats, crane stone wagons and Guards Van no brakes, picked them up on early hours Sunday, should have realised some lightly smouldering sleepers, on the drag back from Piccadilly to Guide bridge, with some bright orange light coming in from the front of the Guards Van window, just before ashburys Signal Box, realised had a major fire on the Flat Bed next to the Guards Van with nowhere to run....... of course screwing down the Brake Vans handbrake made a hell of a noise, and I could hear the driver just throttle up the Class 31 last resort manged to wake the signal man up at Ashburys with my whistle and handlamp waving wildly as I passed the signal box, stopped on a signal just before Gorton, then the fun began. Had just about 10 years on the job Health then and onwards has not been good, but managed to enjoy the time I had, Transpennine, Chat Moss-Halifax-Leeds York Doncaster DMU's and EMU's miss it though, 44 years I wish.
It's nice to know that TSC has sufficient authenticity to interest retired railwayman. I guess it's not exactly the same, but presumably it has enough to bring back happy memories, or to allow what-iffing of some of the mad things you will have no doubt seen in many years on the railways! It's interesting, but despite the rotten hours, dirt and tedium, many ex-railway men (at least on the internet) seem to have happy memories of their time with BR. I get the sense they had a feeling of being part of something bigger, and had pride in a job that other people depended on.
Not been a gamer since the early days when it was take all your PC's & monitors round to a mates house network them and then blow the xxxx out of each other - Command and Conquer Unreal Tournament Duke Nukem Wolfenstein and the like. Decided to buy into TSC recently and have been well impressed. Got it on large screen TV and if I didnt know better could be there sat in the cab. Love the Build feature. Especially the Google Map integration. Long way to go and learn, but almost completed my first route mod and scenario, just shame I built my sidings and surrounding scenery with assets from too many providers, not on DTG so cant publish it, may go back in and replace the assets to achieve this. Just concerned that maybe Train Sim W was the better option to spend on although I see that TSC should be continuing with upgrades.
So a couple of screenshots of my scenario and route build efforts and an original from back in the day, of course a bit of artistic licence on my part noy authentic but first attempt.
Glazebrook Tanks unloading? When I was in the Box at Edgeley 2 in 1973 the tanks came off the Northenden line as 6E93
Yes, when I noticed the Liverpool Manchester DLC had the spur at Glazebrook I couldn't resist making my version of the sidings and scenario as I worked it. The shift we had at Longsight was a 3am start, it was possibly 7M42 from Haverton Hill via Standege driver and guard collect the Tanks from Ashburys relieve crew who went back to Longsight for their break, then onwards to Glazebrook, shunted to sidings, waited while they were unloaded and returned at 09:52 6E20 to Ashburys This would have been around 1991 I believe from pictures I have seen prior to the 1980's there were sidings on both sides of the Ship Canal, and both sides of the Embankments at Cadishead station, where the British Tar Products Oil/Fuel Sidings were, and that the Tanks went via Northenden and edgeley as you say. And of course then the new roads tunnel under the viaduct and industrial estates were put in at the end of the 90's early 20, and the tanks depot has gone although the track bed and remains of various bits are still there now. I found last week from Back Dated Train Sim the South Lancashire & North Cheshire Route they have done which includes a lot of this. Installed all works, not had a good look yet.
