Scotland: Let's See Some More Hello all, today, I'm bringing something different. We've probably all seen the "master threads" for Japan, Germany/Surrounding Nations and a few others. **See https://forums.dovetailgames.com/posts/421070/ for the list of suggestions** However, Scotland is - in terms of it's rail network and scenery - very diverse. And I'm going to tell you why Scotland is somewhere we need to see more of. Before I begin, however, I'd like to say I'm not treating Scotland as seperate from the UK. However, it is a country within the UK, with a distinct culture, landscape and rail network, and I think we should see more of it. So please, nobody kill me Routes Scotland has a diverse collection of routes of numerous different types, with Urban Commuter lines such as the Cathcart and Argyle Lines, Regional Lines such as the Inverclyde and Fife Circle Line, Mainlines from England and Aberdeen into Edinburgh and Glasgow, and the wonderful West Highland Line. Here's my quick breakdown of all the routes in real life, and then the best options for in-game, no particular order. [Cathcart is, obviously, being ignored. Just remember it has a 314] West Highland Line (Glasgow - Mallaig) Kyle Line: Kyle of Lochalsh - Inverness Far North Line: Inverness - Wick/Thurso Inverness/Aberdeen - Edinburgh/Glasgow Highland Mainline: Perth - Inverness Fife Circle Line: Edinburgh - Edinburgh North Berwick Line: Edinburgh - North Berwick (goes with ECML) ECML: Edinburgh - Border (Berwick-upon-Tweed near enough) Borders Railway: Edinburgh - Tweedbank Edinburgh - Glasgow Via Falkirk High (the TS one) Via Shotts Via Airdrie (North Clyde) Via Carstairs Via Cumbernauld North Clyde Line: Edinburgh - Helensburgh Argyle Line: [Glasgow Destinations] - [Lanarkshire Destinations] WCML: Glasgow - Border (Carlisle for the purposes) Glasgow Southwestern Line: Glasgow - East Kilbride/Stranraer/Carlisle Ayrshire Coast Line: Glasgow - Ayr, Ardrossan and Largs Inverclyde Line: Glasgow - Gourock and Wemyss Bay Paisley Canal Line: Glasgow - Paisley Canal And a couple others. Now, it's easy to split these up. You have; East Coast Lines (Red), Suburban Glasgow* Network (Blue), Mainlines (Magenta), Highlands (Green), Other (Black) This quite successfully highlights the diversity of the Scottish Network, however, I haven't really made the case for it yet. Have I? How about I do that now, then. Highlands The Highlands, one of the World's most beautiful landscapes and the heartland of Scotland. And the Lines of the Highlands display this with no less than with absolute beauty. The lines of the Highlands are: The West Highland Line Glasgow - Oban, Fort William & Mallaig The West Highland Line is one of the world's most beautiful railways, Stretching from the City of Glasgow all the way up to Fort William and the Port of Mallaig, the West Highland Line moves it's way through the Mountain ranges of the Highlands, and overlooks the many lochs in the way. This route is arguably the best Scotland has to offer. And we have a lot to offer. For TSW: [For Glasgow - Helensburgh see North Clyde Line] - WHL South: Helensburgh Upper - Crianlarch - WHL North: Crianlarch - Fort William - WHL 'Extension': Fort William - Mallaig - Oban Line: Oban - Crianlarch Due to the sparse timetable on this line, the rolling stock could be: The Class 156 (ScotRail Saltire) With a potential BR-Era timetable to make up for the sparse timetable, featuring: The Class 156 (BR) The Class 37 (BR ScotRail) And - for both eras - a potential Jacobite DLC for Fort William - Mallaig. For Suggestions: I've personally Suggested the Northern Section (known in TS as West Highland Line extension) between Fort William and Mallaig, and plan to expand on the West Highland Line in the future. Fort William - Mallaig: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...william-mallaig-does-it-get-any-better.43171/ The Kyle Line Kyle of Lochalsh - Inverness Running out of the Highland Capital, Inverness, the Kyle Line is another wonderful route. From the Ports in the West to the Historical City in Inverness, this line sees some Stunning scenery running out through the north of the Highlands. However, it may be too long for TSW, again, so could have to be split up. (Class 158) Far North Line Wick/Thurso - Inverness The far north line is - to nobody's surprise - the furthest north line in the UK. Along with the Kyle Line, both leave out of Inverness station, heading north through Sutherland and ending up in northern reaches of Scotland. For TSW: this would likely need to be split up as well, and this route is operated by the Class 158. JealousSheep768 has a nice suggestion on this route: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/the-far-north-line-inverness-to-invershin.47676/ Highland Mainline Perth - Inverness Running between Perth, one of Scotland's smaller cities, and Inverness to the north. Running through the centre of the Highlands, this line sees the Class 170, 158, 43 (Inter7City) and Class 800 Azuma (LNER) run along this line. As with all the routes above so far, this would end up having to be split up, die to length. East Coast Lines The East Coast of Scotland's network - centred around Edinburgh Waverley, are a network of (mostly) diesel lines, serving the Fife and Borders regions, all the way up towards Aberdeen and Inverness in the Highlands. Borders Railway Edinburgh - Tweedbank The Borders Railway is Scotland's newest line, linking Edinburgh with the Borders Towns of Galashiels and Tweedbank, with closer links to the main Borders towns in Kelso and Hawick. Despite calls to reinstate the Waverley Line (the original line which the new route runs along the site of) to Carlisle, the Borders Railway - opened in 2015 - is operated by Class 158s and 170s, runs for 35 miles. Classes 170 & 158 Fife Circle Line Edinburgh - Edinburgh The Fife Circle Line - well known within the community from it's appearance in Train Simulator - being a core route in TS2021, is one of Scotland's two - along with the Cathcart Circle Lines, Circular lines. Seeing service from Class 158 and 170 units - with LNER stock and Inter7City HSTs running on the Edinburgh - Dundee line, which this line shares track with - and is 49 miles long, from Edinburgh back to, well, Edinburgh. (Class 158 & 170) Inverness/Aberdeen - Edinburgh/Glasgow The Line from Edinburgh Waverley and Glasgow Queen Street to Inverness and Aberdeen is around 240 miles long, and would have to be split up for TSW, here's what I think: - Glasgow Queen Street - Dundee via Perth (83mi) - Edinburgh - Dundee (overlaps with Fife Circle) (51mi) - Dundee - Aberdeen (71mi) - Aberdeen - Inverness (108mi) With the 158, 170, HST (ScotRail) and LNER Azuma being the best options for locos. Mainlines ECML + North Berwick Line Edinburgh - English Destinations The ECML runs from London Kings Cross - Edinburgh Waverley, calling at numerous stations such as Peterborough, York and Newcastle. Operated primarily by LNER and - in Scotland - ScotRail for local services to North Berwick and Dunbar. For TSW (and even TS!) This route is far too long to be one whole route, so for the section out of Edinburgh, Edinburgh - Berwick-upon-Tweed and North Berwick (near 60 miles) would be an excellent route, with the LNER Azumas, and a Class 380 or 385 - more on that soon. WCML and Edinburgh - Glasgow via Carstairs Glasgow Central - Edinburgh OR English Destinations The West Coast Mainline, despite being one of the (along side the ECML) busiest lines in the UK, is very similar to a rural line in Scotland, with limited services running up and down, with no ScotRail services for most of it. Glasgow - Carlisle is 102 miles in length, so way too long, however this could be shortened for TSW, and feature the line to Edinburgh, diverging at Carstairs. In the contrary, this route could be a lot shorter to make if the Argyle Line came before, with significant overlap between the two. The Argyle line will come up again, soon. Edinburgh - Glasgow via Falkirk High Best known as Train Simulator's Edinburgh - Glasgow add-on, this line has seen substantial developments in the last few years, with Electrification and Glasgow Queen Street's redevelopment taking place, and the introduction of Class 385 units. This route in game would include the full length route, and have a Class 385. https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/edinburgh-glasgow.40845/ Suburban Network (Glasgow) [Cathcart is excluded] Argyle Line Various Destinations The Argyle Line is - despite being a network of lines in and around Glasgow - an excellent network full of variety everywhere you turn. In the West, Services travel to/from Dalmuir via Singer or Yoker - and the Milngavie branch splits off from the Singer Line closer to Glasgow. This section - West of Partick - is shared with the North Clyde Line. The route then passes through Glasgow Central Low Level - and some High Level services head towards the Eastern Destinations. Those Eastern Destinations include Airbles, Cumbernauld and Whifflet (the latter three all on one branch), Larkhall, Lanark and Carstairs. Some services terminate at Motherwell as well. This route has two connections to Cathcart Circle - Newton and Glasgow Central. North Clyde Line Various Destinations The North Clyde Line is rather similar to the Argyle Line- sharing plenty of track in the West, between Dunbar and Partick, where the Argyle goes south of the Clyde (eventually) and the North Clyde Line stays north of the Clyde. However, this is a much simpler route, with the Western Termini being Helensburgh Central, Balloch (Branch) and Milngavie (Branch), with the Eastern being Springburn (Branch), and Edinburgh/Airdrie/Bathgate. For TSW- the entire route all the way to Edinburgh is a bit too long, with too many stations as well, however, this could make for a good urban route one day, in and around Glasgow. This route would have Class 334 and Class 156 (for West Highland Line services), and would include the line into Queen Street High Level, as well as Helensburgh Upper for Highland Line services. Glasgow Southwestern Line Glasgow - East Kilbride, Carlisle and Stranraer via Barrhead The Glasgow Southwestern Line is the main route out of Glasgow for Dumfries and Galloway. Mirroring the Cathcart Circle fairly close, with the two not getting too far apart until after Cathcart, this route has services to East Kilbride, Stranraer (turning back at Kilmarnock), and Carlisle. For TSW, Glasgow - Kilmarnock with the East Kilbride branch is probably the best idea. With the Class 156 being the included loco. Paisley Canal Line Glasgow - Paisley Canal It exists. I'm sorry, that's it. Ayrshire Coast Line Glasgow - Ayr, Ardrossan and Largs The Ayrshire Coast Line - somewhat well known for the scenes of waves splashing over the lines around Saltcoats, onto the wires and trains passing by. With the Mainline to Ayr, and the Branch to Ardrossan Harbour, with the branch to Largs branching off from the branch to Ardrossan, which branches off at Kilwinning. The fact I managed to say "Branch" (or variations of the word) Five times in the same sentence - and it still makes sense - says a lot about this line. This route, like the Inverclyde Line below, would have the Class 380 as it's standard loco - being the only stock at present. Inverclyde Line Glasgow - Gourock and Wemyss Bay Ahh, finally I've got through this part. This was not a fun section to write. However, this is my home route, so I can finally just get this out here. I personally think this route is one of the best looking routes in Scotland. Located on the Southside of the River Clyde, running between Gourock and Wemyss Bay on the Firth of Clyde (well, actually the former is on the 'Tail of the Bank' but anyway), and Glasgow Central, this route offers - without a doubt - excellent visuals across the Clyde to the Highlands, and the mountains of Argyle. You can see some of this in the suggestion of mine linked below, however this route truly is excellent. This route would - like the Ayrshire Coast Line - have the Class 380, with the 314 or (or even and, there could be two timetables, one with the 385, one with the 314, for that little bit of variety) Class 385 layering/Substituting on. This could also see 320 and 318 substitutions/layers, as well. https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/inverclyde-line-glasgow-gourock-wemyss-bay.45020/ ScotRail's Fleet ScotRail has one of the most diverse fleets on the UK's Network, with newer Electric Multiple Units, to MK1-derived EMUs, and the Sprinters. This diversity goes truly hand in hand with the routes, and I feel this is worth it's own section. (All trains must have been in service at some point after 2010 for me the count them here) Note: "TSW Home Route" is my suggestion, and please, remember that these would only be the base route, that also counts for Loco DLCs, and that there will be layers (see section below) Locomotives Class 43 + MK3 Stock 'Inter7City' Adapted from GWR's outgoing HSTs (Which we do have already, in GWE), the Class 43 forms ScotRail's new 'Inter7City' services, connecting the 7 Cities (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Stirling, Perth, Dundee, Aberdeen & Inverness) of Scotland, and proving fast and reliable (usually) services through the Scottish Network. TSW Home Routes: Probably Inverness/Aberdeen - Edinburgh/Glasgow. DMUs (The 153 is here because it's easier) Class 153 'Highland Explorer' One of the most Recent Editions to the ScotRail fleet, the BR Class 153 - Sprinter - was introduced to run along with Class 156 units on the West Highland Line, to expand spaces for Bicycles, and encourage tourism up into the Highlands. These always operate alongside Class 156 Units when operating. TSW: Home Route: West Highland Line/North Clyde Line Class 156 The Class 156 'Super Sprinter' is and integral part of the Diesel part of the ScotRail fleet. Operating the West Highland and Glasgow Southwestern Lines exclusively (in full, that is), these are the backbone of connections in the Dumfries & Galloway and the Argyll/Highland Regions. TSW: Home Routes: Glasgow Southwestern Line, West Highland Line/North Clyde Line Class 158 Serving as the backbone of many routes, from the Far North Line to the Borders Railway, the Class 158 'Express Sprinter' is a key part of the Scotrail Fleet, with many routes served by it. TSW Home Routes: Kyle Line, Far North Line, Fife Circle Line, Edinburgh/Glasgow - Aberdeen/Inverness, Highland Mainline and/or Borders Railway. Class 170 The Class 170 'Turbostar' is - similar to the 158 - running along numerous lines and also being very common to swap in and out for other units. This is also one of the UK's most common DMUs, running up and down the country. TSW Home Routes: Fife Circle Line, Edinburgh/Glasgow - Aberdeen/Inverness, Highland Mainline and/or Borders Railway. EMUs Class 318 The BR Class 318 is a MK3-based EMU, uniquely serving Scotland. With it's English Cousin - The Class 317 - serving in Anglia and the South, the 318 serves Glasgow's Suburban Network, stretching out to Gourock and Wemyss Bay on the Inverclyde Line. TSW Home Route: Argyle Line Class 320 The BR Class 320 is another BR-era Unit, and also uniquely serves ScotRail. Similar to the 318, it's Cousin, the Class 321, serves in Anglia and Southern England. The Class 322 also operates with Northern (I think), formerly having served with First ScotRail. This operates mostly the same routes as the 318. The 320/4 units are no different to /3, except they are former London Midland Class 321s. TSW Potential Home Route: Argyle Line Class 334 The Class 334 'Juniper' is the primary unit on the North Clyde Line, formerly being found in Ayrshire and Inverclyde. In recent years these units have been removed from those lines - in favour of units such as the Class 380 - and onto the North Clyde Line. TSW Home Route: North Clyde Line Class 380 The Class 380 'Desiro' is the primary unit on the Ayrshire Coast and Inverclyde Lines, and can be found as far west as North Berwick, running services there. Originally built for the cancelled Glasgow Airport Rail Link (GARL), these units were put to good use, now being the exclusive (in usual times) loco on the Ayrshire Coast Line, and the main one in Inverclyde. This also has a (as far as I'm aware) unique feature for the UK Network - an angled Gangway on the front. TSW Home Routes: Inverclyde Line, Ayrshire Coast Line. Class 385 The Class 385 is the newest Multiple Unit on ScotRail's hands, having been introduced to serve the recently-electrified Edinburgh - Glasgow (via Falkirk) line. These units have also come to serve the Inverclyde Line and other lines around Glasgow. TSW Home Route: Edinburgh - Glasgow via Falkirk Former Class 314 (Withdrawn from Service) Two Class 314s pass at Croftfoot, in Saltire livery. (TSW2) Featured in TSW2's Glasgow Cathcart Circle, the Class 314 'PEP' was the oldest unit left in the fleet, having entered service in 1979, it actually lost this title prior to it's withdrawal from service, with the HST taking that spot. This unit was featured in Cathcart Circle (set in 2017 or 2014, when it was the main loco on the line), and features all 16 units- however all in Saltire Livery, despite some being in the SPT Carmine & Cream - the last trains to do so - which is a livery probably everyone has recreated in the livery designer. Two Class 314s, one in ScotRail Saltire and one in Carmine & Cream livery, stand at Glasgow Central. Class 365 (Temporary Service with ScotRail) Due to issues with the Class 385 - thanks to the curved windows in the cab - which caused a delay of entry into service, the Class 365 were brought up from Great Northern to cover the Edinburgh - Glasgow line, as numerous DMUs - including the 170s that ran the line - were being transferred to Arriva Rail North (Northern). The 10× Class 365s had a short stay in Scotland, however the Happy Trains (Fun Fact: ScotRail actually called them Happy Trains) had a final chance to see some new tracks. Class 68 + MK2 Coaches (Leased, removed due to Mk2s) The Class 68 didn't stay too long, either. Having a 5 year stay - from 2015 to 2020, these units came to Scotland to operate Peak-time Fife Circle services, and met their fate when the Mark 2 Coaches were to be withdrawn from service, due to non-compliance with accessibility laws. Substitution/Layering This is my response to any calls for a Cathcart Loco DLC: but in more detail. I've always said that- provided even just a couple of routes be made more (for now ) a layering/substitution system could be put in place - not only to get the most out of the locos with routes, but also to make every route as alive as possible. This image attached below is a (rough) outline of what I think that could be. (A few notes: The WHL (West Highland Line) ends at Helensburgh Upper here, and becomes part of the North Clyde Line. The Sleeper is the Caledonian Sleeper. Most AI Trains are at Edinburgh Waverley or Glasgow Central) Now, specifically for Cathcart, the route could have all appropriate stock - if only two routes were made - Argyle (320, 318) and Inverclyde/Ayrshire (380). Ignoring AI (at Glasgow), that would fill the route, and - even though the 314 would still be what you see most - Glasgow Central would feel alive, the Cathcart Circle would be vibrant - the 6 Car Services for the 314! All without constraining a loco to Cathcart which is - to be totally honest - not the most exciting route we have to offer up here. Conclusion Scotland is (in my opinion) one of the most beautiful places in the world, and I'm lucky enough to come from it. And TSW has every chance to replicate it through the eyes of the railways. I'll be (when this thread is fully completed) making suggestions for all the routes I've noted above, to allow me to go into further depth about all the routes. However, that's all. And, as always; Thanks for reading.