Upcoming Release Semmeringbahn - Coming Soon!

Sounds interesting. Could someone list the additional routes and locos needed to take full advantage of the route's services and scenarios?

 

The Class 47 railtour is wild, pretty cool to see that!

Regarding the rest of the route, gotta wait for a preview stream to see the scenic hills and mountains - hopefully the entire route isn’t surrounded by thick forest!

 

It looks great! But it is a shame the 1116 will only sub into freight services on Vorarlberg. I'd have loved to see it liven up the somewhat dull timetable. The Railjet DLC can't come soon enough

 

So, given the fact that THE route for Railjet has all Railjet services driven by Taurus and 2nd class coaches (absolutely laughable that you don't even do two classes anymore)... I think you can all lose hope for Railjet. If they filled this gap, they're not doing it anytime soon.

EDIT: It's also funny how much you're trying to sell the difference between Taurus and BR182

 

After Linke Rheinstrecke, Vorarlberg and Bernina Bahn we will have the next route with scenic and wonderful landscape. A Railjet and a fast moving external camera on consoles would be very nice too.

 

For me that route is special because of it's beautiful landscape. The rolling stock is not so important as long it is from one of the best european railway operators, the ÖBB.

 

So, can we see the construction sites of the Semmering Base Tunnel at Gloggnitz and Mürzzuschlag in game?

 

dtg_jan. This looks an absolutely amazing route and if it is designed with the same passion and brilliance of the London Commuter, the train sim community will have another excellent route to play. I am particularly excited about Vienna being in the game and hope it looks as good as in Tram Sim. I am sure the DTG team have worked exceptionally hard on this and am looking forward to seeing Matt’s showcase of the route soon.

 

The question is.....
How it will look on Xbox Series X?
Will it be the same catastrophy like Vorarlberg, arguably the worst route on that matter?
Scenery and mountain popin few 100 meters away is just disgusting

 

Wiener Neustadt is not Vienna... Wiener Neustadt is a different city and have nothing to do with each other

 

Can the 1116 also sub in as freight on Rosenheim-Salzburg with a huge amount of probability (50%+)? Because if you watch videos from the years the route is set in, you will almost only see the 1116 there DTG Alex ? Would be awesome!!!

 

Oh OK, thats a shame but l am sure the route will be a worthwhile addition to TSW4.

 

Please notice, the Uacns 82 freight cars, mentioned simply as part of Ruhr Sieg Nord, is not true!.
That is an extra add-on for that route, including the BR 363 - on red colors- too.
The same for the BR 155 is an add-on for that route.

I believe, if they includes now the OBB Talent1, as a gift for persons who does not have it, - being new one in the sim-,DTG could also adds the Uacns freight cars, being only available on just one very early TSW route.

 

Very excited about this release!
There's only one issue in the presentation:
"[...] Hauling both passenger and freight trains, they can be seen throughout Germany, Austria and Hungary as well as Poland and Italy."
The ES64U2 is not certified to run in Italy, mainly because of the different Italian electric system: only the ES64U4 (registered as E190) can, and that's a very different locomotive even from the outside. I'm not sure about Poland either..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuroSprinter#ES_64_U

 

The same for Poland.....

The list what i know sofar is....
Austria
Germany
Switzerland
Romania
Bulgaria
Croatia
Hungary

And yes not all of them are the same its in sub parts

 

Only including the Bmz is such a cheap short cut. Still, at least we get to drive the class 47, wouldn't be an Austrian route without that.

 

hyped, but you have incorrect info in the article - 4024s dont serve CJX9, that is done by Siemens Desiro ML aka 4744/4746... its whole point is to blast its way full speed ahead 140-160kmh, with few stops (more stops only once it reaches Vienna)... 4024 arent slow, but CJX uses Desiro ML in CityJet livery

 

I think there’s nothing Dovetail can really do about it without it affecting performance. I don’t create games but it seems that they would prefer performance over scenery.

 

here is official OBB page... used that service twice, and as all CJX services active, it is Desiro ML:
https://www.oebb.at/en/neuigkeiten/cityjet-xpress

 

There is plenty they could do about it, Matt has confirmed the Series X just runs the same code as the Series S, which cannot cope with distant scenary so the draw distance is also culled on Series X. The vast majority of Series X console games offer 'graphics' and 'performance' modes which allow you to choose pretty over frame rates, while the Series S just usually gets a singular mode because it can't cope, there is absolutely nothing stopping DTG having different modes for each of the 2 consoles.

 

it has magnificent station... if they added Wiener Neustadt - Vienna bit, our PCs would explode (that would be a nice separate DLC tho)... I am hyped atm, but such an obvious error as putting 4024 in a CJX service, which is Desiro ML 4746 I think, but unleashed to its full power, kinda almost IC... 4024 is "too slow" for CJX ... thats literally a service created pretty much to show how powerful and fast Desiro ML is (in beautiful CityJet livery no less)

 

I really hope DTG has learned from the Fife Circle disaster stream...

 

1116 as RJ... I hope that means they will be replaced by the actual railjet as it releases. would love to see the RJ as an MU ingame. creators club liveries on seperate wagons work awfully for that. the route does look good. can't wait to play it after I refunded FCL. Interested in how difficult freight will be through the mountains

 

Excited for the route and loco! And Dovetail, you know which loco DLC the people want for this route

 

Yes I agree. The first class passenger car might be included too!
Even considering they are derivative, from the DB ones

The same for the DB cab car for the IC train, which comes with the DB101, that was also requested in the past

Despite of that the route seems to be nice.
I will wait to the streaming, in order to see all the details and issues

 

Lets hope for the very first not broken Taurus in TSW history.
PS Looks interesting.

 

RailJet doesnt use regular IC coaches, but Siemens Viaggio, those have different doors, seating, suspension... plus the control car... so it aint just a livery... Siemens Viaggio are coaches built for 230 kmh use:
https://www.mobility.siemens.com/global/en/portfolio/rolling-stock/passenger-coaches.html

 

Excellent route.

As always, I wonder why DTG never makes the effort to add at least one new DAMNED freight car on every route released (the Hbbins were right here).

A corporate "bug"...

Sooner or later will some external developer think of publishing a package of DAMNED freight wagons for the Austro-German railways?

 

that CJX bug in the promotional article will probably haunt me till release ... dammit, CJX5 from St.Polten to Wien Westbahnhof was probably the best damn ride I have ever had, even better than Wien Hbf - St. Polten on-board ICE-T (which was still incredibly cool) - almost whole route up to Wien Hutteldorf fast AF 160 km/h (with only one intermediate stop in Tullnerfeld) and my ears/head was killing me, but it was still a damn blast... and I also hopped on-board CJX 9 in Baden as a reward to myself for walking almost 20 km from Wien Liesing to Baden - 140-150 km/h almost all the way to Liesing (I believe the only other stop was Modling till that point)

Desiro ML in CityJet livery (Gysev isnt too bad either) is my top 1 train, so swapping it with a different + slower train,... not like a matter of life and death, but still... 4024/4124 + 4744/4746/4748 + Taurus/RailJet and you have stuff you can use to death on pretty much all Austrian content, as their fleet is highly standardized and these are most common

 

yeah I've been in one once. thought the first gen was just rebuilt IC coaches (with ofc first class and bordbistro) but dovetail probably running just a 1116 and 7 coaches. if they do make a railjet it's better as an EMU since the railjet liveries. klimaticket, my favorite 100 year ÖBB and the Chech railyet span not just a loco but the entire loco plus railyet coaches. so for CC liveries to work it would need to be one unit. although I'd love a mix of loco and coaching stock liveries as sometimes happens. for example the 1116 Nightyet on the S1 in vienna a few days ago. you will now get liveries to work only in scenario's and in normal timetable like the DRA IC stock to make an IC2 it's a mix of normal and CC which looks really weird. for that the whole livery system probably needs a rework or two though.

 

DTG please, give us finally the complete Railjet and Nightjet experience. 1st (7 coaches) and 2nd (9 coaches) generation with Taurus and Vectron Loco plus control car. It's wonderful that more Austrian routes are coming to TSW 4, but without these trains it feels incomplete.

 

I think the RJ might be coming sooner than you think. Why else would they include RJ services in the timetable..?

 

Wow, can't wait! Thats a route I use very often in real life. Will get it as soon as possible, on day one I won't be at home (trip to Hamburg to ride on Hamburg - Lübeck route in real life).

As I know that route quite well I also see some" flaws" coming:
- CJX9 services without having a CityJet (Desiro Mainline) EMU seems to be not realistic (there should be at least a Talent 1 in CJ-livery).
- dito RJ/NJ-services without RJ/NJ -Trains.
- British Rail Class 47 in Austria are at least VERY EXOTIC.

Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to getting it!

 

I wouldn't be so sure. SEHS launched with 375s acting as placeholders for the 465 layer, providing extra traffic while waiting for the "real" train to show up. Anyone who bought the 465 loco DLC saw a seamless substitution into the timetable. I could easily see the Railjet (and even Nightjet??) doing the same here.

However, I am definitely disappointed they couldn't make 1st-class coaches.

 

But real, though admittedly the depiction in-game lacks Austrian safety systems, is the wrong livery, and has the wrong coaches...

 

There appears to be a little disappointment that there are no first class coaches but it doesn’t say that in the article, so I’m assuming bmz means only second class and first class coaches have a different name but without that name I can’t do a Google search to find them. Is there a huge difference in the exterior that I would notice? There’s nothing wrong with it as a complaint, just to be clear, I just want to know what I’m missing. I don’t play as a passenger often so the interior differences, with several different types of coach, aren’t as big a concern for me as the exterior.

 

Yeah, but originally that wasn't supposed to be the case. They only added them, because people complained about the timetable in the preview. Doubt you could easily sub Railjet in for this as it's probably not set up for cab car sets, so all of a sudden half of the substitutions would have to have a loco at the end of the train.

The 'B' in Bmz means second class, the first class would be Amz/Apmz based on interior configuration. From the outside, the difference is similar as with the DB IC coaches, first class has different window spacing (less, but larger windows) and that big yellow stripe marking it as first-class coach. Of course, inside it's completely different You wouldn't see an EC train without them.


Yes, some might say the difference is not big, but I'd say it's a big immersion breaker for a 2024 rail simulation.

 

Route looks great. Very pretty. No doubt driving through this route during a nice evening sunset will be pretty breathtaking.

Also please stop using those silly looking pylons / Transmission Towers in all your routes. They look very awful… too pointy and jagged. It’s as if a 4 year old designed them… The ones in Niddertalbahn and Blackpool look much better. Please update them they are so unpleasant.

 

Finally a Taurus ingame

 

Nah if you care about the scenery you should avoid this and any other mountainous routes on XSS/XSX, for reasons outlined by richtayls above.

 

I'm looking forward to the Semmeringbahn and the first preview stream.

 

This looks good but got to concur, why can you not do a decent range of coaching stock to go with the locos? Are you that short of 3D modellers and artists that they cannot churn out two or three variations to give a more representative consist? Will wait and see if there’s any sort of preorder discount but thinking this could be one for the sale discount or a bundle.

 

Of course we already know the “Taurus” from RT, but it was originally built by Siemens for the ÖBB. 332 units were delivered to ÖBB from 2000 onwards, with the 1116 being the two-system variant. Interesting fact: because the DB's 152s were not approved for the Austrian rail network, further procurement of 152s had to be canceled. Instead, 25 Taurus were delivered to the DB, which were of course also allowed to travel around the Austrian rail network. At the DB it was listed as 182.

Nice to see that such impressive mountain routes are now possible in TSW. Thanks to Lidar, not only the real height profile but also textures can be adopted. It looks great for distance viewing. The landscape builders only have to work again for the detailed close-up area. Together with the volumetric clouds, you might think you're driving around in Microsoft's FS 2020. If we go back to the Arosa line more than 3 years ago, then we can see a real graphical leap.

 

I sincerely hope so. with the late or never arriving patches I don't expect to see it but I'm awaiting next roadmap update on the 9th. I could really use that RJ to populate my Salzburg-Rosenheim timetable. all I need then is a BLB FLIRT, a 1144 and some cityjet coaches. I'd love a 5047 and a 2016 to really finish the project though. the 2024 could do with a 2023 though. but back to semmering, I'd love to see a RJ soon. although I expect it to be a few months. the IC cab car took years, Only Bmz coaches for IC trains and on british side also only the most common of the electrostars (4 coach EMU) I think. I would love dovetail and third parties to move away from a lot of routes and one train and add some extra rolling stock to populate the countries they have. the loco addon pack is gone from the roadmap already. maybe it'll be the IC cab car, 385 and something american. or just gone forever. as I said before. new routes are cool but mostly unfinished. I'd rather see them be more populated with missing timetable services fixed and extra rolling stock. just one DMU on a line is a bit dull. especially after it is shown they can do it well with BRO and SRM.

 

I expect that's the approach they took. and IMO should've taken with voralberg since that's now devoid of any IC/EC/RJ. even the EN with car coaches there is sadly missing.

 

So a quite noticeable omission. Not so much when seeing them from the cab passing at speed when driving in the opposite direction but certainly from all other views.

 

first one Zurich, second one Munich

 

Or riding as a passenger!

Hopefully DTG have their answer ready for this one on the preview stream as judging by the thread so far, a fairly major concern. Not necessarily DLC breaking but it's another instance of a not quite rounded product (like my eternal or maybe infernal petition for UK Mark One catering cars) just go the extra distance and keep everyone happy.

 

just rode the IC cabcar in zusi it makes more fun than driving the 101. but it is TSG again. we can wait some years now..