Settle–carlisle Line

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  1. jackmiller1234567890

    jackmiller1234567890 Well-Known Member

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    The Settle–Carlisle line (also known as the Settle and Carlisle (S&C)) is a 73-mile-long (117 km) main railway line in northern England. The route, which crosses the remote, scenic regions of the Yorkshire Dales and the North Pennines, runs between Settle Junction, on the Leeds–Morecambe line, and Carlisle, near the English-Scottish borders. The historic line was constructed in the 1870s and has several notable tunnels and viaducts such as the imposing Ribblehead. The line is managed by Network Rail. All passenger services are operated by Northern apart from temporary diverted services (due to closures of the West Coast Main Line) and are part of the National Rail network. Stations serve towns such as Settle in North Yorkshire, Appleby-in-Westmorland in Cumbria and small rural communities along its route. In the 1980s, British Rail planned to close the Settle–Carlisle line. This prompted a campaign to save the line by rail groups, enthusiasts, local authorities and residents along the route. In 1989, the UK government announced the line would be saved from closure. Since then, passenger numbers have grown steadily to 1.2 million in 2012. Eight formerly closed stations have been reopened and several quarries have been reconnected to the line. It remains one of the most popular railway routes in the UK for charter trains and specials. After damage by a landslip, part of the line was closed from February 2016 to March 2017. To celebrate the reopening, the first regular mainline scheduled service in England for nearly half a century ran with a steam engine. This line has passenger and freight trains.

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    158 (most common)

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    153

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    Stanier Black 5

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    Coronation

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    Princess Royal

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    4468 Mallard

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    5043 Earl of Mount Edgcumbe

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    5972 Olton Hall

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    35018 British India Line

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    60103 Flying Scotsman

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    60163 Tornado
     
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  2. cescb#1068

    cescb#1068 Member

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    A good choice, cannot help think setting it in BR days would add more variety. You still would get the second generation DMUs and the last of the loco hauled diagrams.
     
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  3. jedi247

    jedi247 Well-Known Member

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    I liked this route in the original Microsoft Train Simulator. The route came with the Flying Scotsman and a BR Class 50 diesel that was a free DLC. For freight action, I'd suggest a Class 37 or 47. The Class 50 would be cool to see as well.
     
  4. Lil jj

    Lil jj Well-Known Member

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    Only the 158 runs on this line iirc
     
  5. AirbourneAlex

    AirbourneAlex Well-Known Member

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    More 2nd gen DMUs used to run on the line up until recently, including the Class 153 and even the Class 142. Personally I would opt for having the Class 158 at a minimum, with the addition of a centre car to create the 3-car versions used by Northern.
     
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  6. edward#5859

    edward#5859 Well-Known Member

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    I would personally prefer the ‘Settle to Carlisle’ in the first 20 Years of BR (1948-1967) because the route is heritage and Iconic because of the route’s history and beauty and earns the Nickname of ‘England’s (most) Beautiful Railway’ and when you think of a Steam Loco you think historic and heritage beautiful machines. There is also more challenge in a Steam Loco and more to focus on than just (I’ve made this argument before) sitting there watching the beautiful scenery and essentially watching paint dry 10 miles up an incline you’ll be bored and the only good thing is watch the scenery rush passed
     
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  7. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Good suggestion, but you are asking for a lot of Northern-operated DMUs and steam locomotives for this route?

    I would split this into trains we already have in game (they might not be in the correct liveries however) and new trains to be built for this route and layered onto other routes within TSW4:

    Already In Game:
    Class 158 (Cummins) - Midland Main Line (reliveried into Northern Trains livery)
    Class 150 - West Cornwall Local (reliveried into Northern Trains livery)
    LMS Stanier 8F - Spirit of Steam/Peak Forest
    LMS Jubilee - SoS/PFR
    Flying Scotsman - East Coast Main Line (Flying Scotsman Centenary Pack)

    New Trains which could be developed for this route:
    Class 158 (Perkins) - Northern Trains livery
    Tornado - BR Brunswick Green livery
    *Class 60* - DB Schenker livery


    However, if the likes of the Black 5 or Earl of Mount Edgcumbe were made for the game prior to this route being developed, then those steam locos could layer in (as appropriate) :)
     
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