Xbox Should Older Routes Be Using The New Ap Score System ?

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  1. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Guest

    I was on i think Rhein Rhur Osten and noticed that it still counts up in 30AP and 15AP for Overspeed, whereas the new is 65AP and 32AP for Overspeeed

    I thought this would have been a core change and affected all routes ?

    I was kinda hoping it would allow us to have a much higher chance at achieving gold medals on otherwise unachievable services.
     
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  2. OnlyMe1909

    OnlyMe1909 Well-Known Member

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    DTG needs to take a close look at the whole scoring deal. I thought they said new scoring would be implemented on old routes as well. But, as you say, it is heavily bugged. You only get 30 points max per distance unit driven with all safeties on iso 65. On the other hand on some old routes the points given for stopping in the correct place is indeed adapted to the new system (750 max), on others I only get 500 for stopping perfectly. It's a bit of a mess at this time...
     
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  3. AtherianKing

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    yea I think it may be suffering from bugs.

    I think it’s ECML my stopping distances have been about 2-10 yards difference, but points I think I’ve noticed ranging between about 410-500
     
  4. hells.high.lord666

    hells.high.lord666 Well-Known Member

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    I never get consistent scoring at stops. I can hit 2 spot on and get different points each time but even the speed scores have been inconsistent for me. Can sometimes get just past the speed marker (still white) on ECML and it scores me 32 but I've been 4 mph over and it still scored me 65. The whole scoring system needs to be looked at and the stop points really need looking at because some of the markers (Bakerloo) aren't where they should be so you aren't even stopping the train safely unless you ignore the marker and stop where the train should be stopping and lose those points
     
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  5. matt245621#2075

    matt245621#2075 Well-Known Member

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    I think they said the new scoring system only effects TSW4 routes.
     
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  6. Let's hope they leave TSW3 alone. Pretty much every new feature is incomplete or has an issue of some kind..
     
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  7. AtherianKing

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    tsw3 is abandoned, that’s not just me saying that, DTG said no more after something that I cant remember what it was

    It’s very safe to say TSW3 won’t get a new scoring system.

    Officially new features for TSW3 has as much chance as Founders Edition getting an engine upgrade. (0%)
     
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  8. hells.high.lord666

    hells.high.lord666 Well-Known Member

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    3 was dead Sept 26th when 4 launched. 3 isn't even going to get the updates that we were promised for 2
     
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  9. It's saddens me to say this, but I genuinely am glad.
     
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  10. Redbus

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    I too was hoping to get a few previously broken gold medals that had thus far evaded me. Case in point, 1M15 in the Capital to Coast journeys on London Commuter: I have tried a few times but have only ever been able to get 11308 AP out of 13750 for gold. I fear this one is impossibly scored as none of the other similar runs in the timetable require anywhere near as many AP.
     
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  11. Spikee1975

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    Couldn't care less. I play to drive trains, not competing at the Olympics.
     
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  12. Pipe

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    This scoring system was rubbish in TSW2, it was rubbish in TSW3, and it is now new and improved rubbish in TSW4. Not sure what they were thinking, if at all.
    Just make sure it is available to be switched off. All fine then.
     
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  13. Id prefer a 6 monthly review-
    "Ahh Sunscreen, we see you sped 20% of the time, were late 80% of the time, left your passengers in the yard overnight which we hear they were not very pleased with but we understand they didnt know it was the end of the line because the network announcements have never worked- we'll get our tannoy team to have a look at that btw, stopped perfectly at the marker boards which is fantastic, but missed the trippy blue marker by several feet so bad boy you, and drove without adequate route knowledge 100% of the time. Anyway, great job. Keep it up. Have an inflation busting pay cut for your efforts. Huzzah!"
     
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  14. Dinosbacsi

    Dinosbacsi Well-Known Member

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    Does it realy matter? Both the old and the new scoring system is utterly trash and pointless. Just turn it off and you are much better without it.
     
  15. Spikee1975

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    Ctrl + 6 is your friend :D
     
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  16. Redbus

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    The game definitely doesn’t need points and medals, but they are there love ‘em or hate ‘em. Like most I turn off the running AP score as it’s an annoying distraction, but the shiny medals somehow trigger my OCD and therefore they must absolutely all be gold (or platinum for v4). For journey mode which I use 99% of the time, each completed chapter can have either a gold medal or a green tick. The latter is simply not acceptable and is a visible reminder of personal shortcomings (or a scoring bug). Yes I could ignore them but… just… can’t…! ;)
     
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  17. owenroser19

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    Just give me a way to turn the scoring system off, especially when it’s so heavily flawed.

    A tick is all I want to show I’ve done a service.
     
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  18. Omnicitywife

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    True true, but my OCD... really wish we could disable it completely.
     
  19. AtherianKing

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    for as long as the medals have and will be their, I’ll always aim for the top.

    a new feature I figured was core but is either a bug or not core, I presumed was to help/ would help achieve those unachievable medals.

    hence the creation of this thread to find that out.



    I always say what’s there should be working, no I don’t support getting rid of the medals.

    edit: as with AP I not much care for the precise number (probably in the several hundreds of thousands or millions at level 500+) but if you play TSW properly then your own level is good indicator of time put into the game, like wise with medals in the way they count services. And if you get silver or bronze which isn’t because the gold is unachievable then it shows areas to improve, especially for newer players.
     
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  20. hells.high.lord666

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    Further to this post the new routes don't even use the new scoring system all the time. I've done 3 scenarios on Voralberg and the International Rescue scenario is currently using the old scoring system despite me having both PZB and SIFA active.
     
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