Simrail 2021 Vs Tsw2

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  1. fanta1682002

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    üe4 game
     
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    It is IHH this has been in development for some time, I have been keeping an eye on it. I think it is intended to be a railway simulator not just a driving simulator.

    Glad it is still in development, I will definitely be getting it.
     
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    plus, as a company, I rather had a playable game with a good stream of new content than several potential lawsuits ruining my business plan :D
     
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    It is from he who must not be named.
     
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    Not from the game in question in this thread, but I would not be able to play the game in the video with that awful wind sound going on. Just a minute of it and I had to turn it off.
     
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    I did a little more digging into it and is called Trackside and still is in development so no release date at this time. Looks really nice hoping he puts up more videos. The wind was a bit much but with using the unreal engine like he has shows it possible to get proper weather.
     
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    I personally tend to be "real"; "real" can only feel all aspects of the game, how they can take into account the two will be the best simulator.
     
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    Someone mentioned the wind noise in some comments on a previous video and he said it was something which could be adjusted.

    I am very excited by it, it is set in my favourite periods, he has been showing off some steam engines in UE4. I don't think it will have a class 101 in it though!

    As this is a trailer I think the first release can't be far away, you can vote for it in a competition on the Epic games store.
     
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    Youtube channel found:

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcYzhuec82n27lelFWaXZUQ

    It's interesting, but he's working five years to reach alpha stage (his own claim) and it just covers the good old UK Diesel days. It looks nice, but it is for a very specific interest group.as far as I can see right now.
     
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    It's gonna have the big problem that Run 8 has, to narrow focus for most people to be interested in it. Considering it's on UE4 I also see it having a lack of mods like with TSW2 considering it has to comply with Epic's policies, which is the big reason a editor can't be done. Good for those who are excite for it, but personally I have little interest in it with those factors going against it.
     
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    SimRail posted on Facebook that they're "on the final straight to a demo version". So looks like a playable demo will be released soonish. Should be cool to give it a try.
     
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    Ah, it's good there'll be a demo. TSW should have a demo too.
     
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    "Trackside" looks like a great railsim for those who want more "immersion", especially in yard work. I'll certainly be interested in it as an alternative to driving trains while invisible (or visible but always static) yard personnel carry out a variety of chores.

    With a bit of searching, I came across a discussion of it on RailUKforums that appeared in 2018 and predicted release in late 2019:
    https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/trackside-new-simulator.183961/ The sim's first trailer can be viewed at this link, along with the same kind of quibbling and quarreling that characterize this thread. Whatever happened to this sim??? It seems unlikely that it's a component of SimRail, but ...
     
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    The trackside game looks to be completely UK based whereas the Simrail game is apparently from Poland so no i think they are completely different things. Trackside does look interesting but seems more like a tech demo to be honest, will be interesting to see the full scope of Simrail.
     
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    not downloand
     
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    No, that is not a legitimate website. I would suggest removing the link from your post.

    Cheers
     
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  21. Michael Newbury

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    Have even bothered to google sunshinethegame, it is a legitimate site
     
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    No, it is not. I have no idea how you have come to this conclusion.

    Cheers
     
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    Agreed, it seems to be a torrent download site
     
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    The game hasn't been released on steam, and the site offers "free download" for GTAVI (Rockstar didn't announce GTAVI yet) I wouldn't call this a torrent site, it is rather a website with malicious files
     
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    I will only be interested in purchasing this simulator if or when there are some Australian routes.
     
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    Show the proof if they are not, would interesting where you are getting your facts from.
     
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    That site stinks worse than 3 week old kippers.

    [link removed by Protagonist]

    <edited by author to break the link if you really want to check it take the spaces out>
     
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  29. Callum B.

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    Certainly.

    Red Flags:
    • Big green download button
    • Download links separate for Windows, macOS, and Linux, despite this being a Windows-only game (as far as I know)
    • Lots of autogenerated garble
    • Download links lead to "javascript:poClick('code=wg82il&title='+document.title+'&title_end={title_end_value}')", or in other words, an autogenerated download file with a name given by the title of the article
    Downloading and running the executable file (which I wouldn't recommend doing except in a secure virtual machine) reveals that the software has nothing to do with Simrail 2021, and it automatically deletes the download file after it finishes to cover its tracks.

    upload_2021-3-10_11-41-2.png

    upload_2021-3-10_11-41-24.png

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    It then proceeds as an installation of Notepad++. I suspect this is a guise.

    I have no idea what the software Wooded Lawgiver does, but I do not trust a software that tries to cover its tracks.

    If you believe this site to be legitimate, then perhaps you would not mind installing their software directly to your machine. Not that I am encouraging it.

    Cheers
     
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    Indeed. And if you do google sunshinethegames, the only positive match will be that website. 1 result.
    It's the second time it's been posted in this thread, and it got removed first time round.
    People need to up there internet awareness game, because your computer ain't gonna last long if you go downloading files from sites like that.
     
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  31. Michael Newbury

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    Actually if I wanted free version of say SimRail2021 I would go to the developer and see about a free Steam key. This way if I like it when it releases I already have it on Steam and it then turn it into a full version.
     
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    Loved that one, but it's so true.
     
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    I think you give good arguments. There is one even more simple: you should never believe an offer that sounds really good like this one. If there would have been a free previews, I the publisher would definitely make a lot of noise and release it. It is just very illogical to find this. So I would recommend not to try it, you may get into big trouble.
     
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    Hello.

    So, any site offering free downloads of commercial games is either:
    A - piracy
    B - malware

    The former is not permitted on this forum, the latter needs little explanation as to why we won't allow those links here. I've removed links from the above posts.
     
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    Tracksides I think is intended to be more than just train driving, in fact from what I have read I don't know if it will ever include train driving, it is intended to be a multi-role railway simulator. This first release from what I can see is based around the operation of a mechanical signal box or boxes, I think you will be able to be a train spotter by noting loco numbers etc and being a "banksperson (I think that is the expression)".

    The author of the sim did produce many add-ons for TS1 in the early days they were all from the British Railways steam to British Rail diesel period, that is his area of interest.

    I suppose it is niche but there is large amount of interest in this period, especially within the model railway fraternity, it hasn't been captured that well by the more recent sims.

    Anyway I guess this is off topic.
     
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    It does - called the Steam 2 hour refund policy.
     
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    That's not a really useful alternative to a demo. Firstly, pretty sure the Steam refund policy isn't intended for demoing games, and frequent "demoing" could even get you in trouble for abusing the system this way. Secondly, to really get a good impression of what a game like TSW can and cannot do, and to familiarize yourself with a game you haven't played before, you really need more than 2 hours.
     
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    From SimRail facebook:
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    I know it is a wip but those cab textures look kak at the moment.
     
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    I have never yet exceeded the overuse of the refund policy. It may not be useful for everything, MSFS for example installed from within the game counting as play time and they had to be forced into making exceptions for people who wanted their money back. Generally with TSW it has worked out okay, the less than sterling DLC I’ve bought has always revealed its shortcomings within the two hours = money back.

    Generally, playable demos went out the door with PC mag cover discs and another reason I heard is that modern games are so complex, you cannot provide a demo without supplying the complete code making it a petrie dish for hackers and pirates to unlock it.
     
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    Derail Valley had a demo, released through Steam before it went early access. That might be the case with SimRail too. Developers have confirmed that there will be a early access version, so I hope we will get our hands on it during this spring/summer if the game is set to release in Q3. Time will tell if all the features and promises from the devs will come true. In my opinion it sounds a bit too good to be true :)
     
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    And also Run8 V3 this year maybe. If all this happens... Could I die of too much love?
     
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    That doesn't mean it won't happen.
     
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    I think at this point SimRail has been hyped a bit too much and overloaded with expectations. I am thinking about waiting till it is released to see if its good before I purchase. At the very least it will tamp down my expectations.
     
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    It reminds me of MSFS and how some people thought it was gonna be the sim to end all sims out the gate. Fact of the matter is It's gonna take a while for it to be polished up and for third parties to get the hang of it. Once initial issues with it are dealt with and there's enough third parties to have good flow of content coming to the sim then I can see it taking off. But like with MSFS I'm expecting it to be a year or two before it reaches that point. A few years from now sure, I could easily see SimRail gaining a lot of ground over TSW in particular if third parties take a liking to it. But right now I'm fully expecting to be using TS Classic and TSW by years end, with SimRail complementing them as opposed to replacing them.
     
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    I agree. Particularly their initial release is going to be 500 Km of tracks using geodetic data. I am not sure how that is going to translate into a game. I am thinking they probably drew custom assets and scripts from the yards, stations and the surrounding areas but most of the route tracks and assets are auto generated. This is what the current gen MSFS does. But we are talking about simulating the areas from a top down perspective in large scale as opposed to being driven through perspective. I think the graphics setup will probably inform how good the game works.
     
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    Ain’t that the truth. And all the majority of the punters on the flight sim forums are doing, is drooling over the possibility of handing over £120 to PMDG for their 737.
     
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    Intentional pun? :D
     
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    I think like waiting forever in a restaurant for a meal, eventually you are not hungry, the same thing will happen with this release. I am losing interest already.
     

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