Skyhook Games Uk Gameplay Pack Speculation

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  1. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    So, currently on the roadmap is a UK gameplay pack coming in 0-3 months time made by skyhook Games. What could this be?
    My thoughts:
    Midland Mainline is the only UK route skyhook have made so it's probably for that.
    Maybe it's a class 222 meridian or a class 180 class180-youll-be-going-nowhere.gif
    Potentially even a class 156 wich would e epic! Though I think a meridian is probably most likely. Ya never no tho.

    What do you think? :)
     
  2. Shackamaxon

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    It's a gameplay pack, not a loco. pack. So no new locos. I guess !
     
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  3. TimTri

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    Quite brave for them to do a gameplay pack while the route is still basically unplayable for PlayStation players (which is why I haven’t bought it yet).

    Regarding the content, I guess it’ll be the usual low-effort combination of “freight loco livery + scenarios + a few boring services”. Like so many of the gameplay packs recently. If they add some sort of passenger service variety, they have my attention!
     
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  4. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    PlayStation issues are kinda down to dtg since they're responsible for the port. The crashing for example was fixed by dtg I believe since they did the port
     
  5. TimTri

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    Oh that was fixed? Maybe I’m misremembering things, but I believe last time they announced a fix players still experienced crashes at the same locations. That being said, I kinda stopped checking out the MML discussion/feedback because it was just the same “where are the fixes” stuff over and over again (sadly).
     
  6. matt#4801

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    Possibly adding freight which should've been there in the first place, apart from that haven't a clue.
     
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  7. Fawx

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    As it's a gameplay pack, it won't be any new locos. It'll be Liveries/scenarios/Possibly a timetable. That's it.
     
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    Hoping it’ll open up Toton and/or the power station yards.
     
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  9. matt245621#2075

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    My guess it will be for the MML so it might be a new livery for the HST or the 158.
     
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  10. matt#4801

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    What new livery would that be, they didn't wear any other liveries in the year the route is set, to my knowledge anyway.
     
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    Retro pack with historical liveries and a new timetable?
     
  12. matt245621#2075

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    Probably that's what they did with the 1972 stock.
     
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    You Know Gameplay packs are these devs missed opportunities to add new Trains and get the new experience of gameplay with them. In my opinion it needs to be a Class 222 meridian in East Midlands Blue, red and orange seems as there were a load of them running back in 2016 on the MML. I’m just saying that it will make the expansion better to see MML services to St Pancras from Sheffield or terminating at Derby and Nottingham. Because it is kind of boring that it’s just Class 43s that have retired now and we’ve already experienced before. And obviously you have the class 158 for stopping services. Watch this video and see how many Class 222s you can see compared to HSTs back in the era where the route is set.
     
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  14. matt#4801

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    I never thought of that, if that's the case the pack won't be a bad as I've predicted.
     
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  15. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    I'm guessing a Class 66 with FL wagons made by astra wagon works Romania
     
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  16. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    That's not the point of a gameplay pack. Gameplay packs are something that can be made quickly and add gameplay like a timetable sub or scenarios.

    A new loco is a loco dlc that requires many months of work which is not what this is
     
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    Well I does say 0-3 months
     
  18. rennekton#1349

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    Release within 0-3 months, not that it takes 0-3 months to make. It's still not a loco dlc, that would be called loco dlc, not loco/gameplay pack
     
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  19. TSW Nathan

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    Could still be a new loco! The 484 for iow was listed as a gameplay pack. I have a feeling dtg are going to call loco packs gameplay packs in the roadmap to avoid people guessing it immediately. That's also why they took out the route codes.
    They might set it in emr purple days and bring the meridian with that! But, ya never know. :)
     
  20. antony.henley

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    You can drive to Toton and the Power station in freeroam. But alot of work needs to be done at Toton. Signal assets need to go in as well as point motor assets and Toton depot building needs to be replaced from the big white box that it currently is.
    If it is a Midland Mainline as the gameplay pack then a hand full of new services and scenarios. But yes hopefully making use of Toton and Radcliffe PS. No new locos though as its a gameplay pack.

    Hentis
     
  21. AirbourneAlex

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    I doubt it would be a freight pack for MML as we really need new wagon types for more services (which presumably would no longer make it a gameplay pack) and all other freight should really be layered on from the routes and stock we already have.

    I'd quite like to see a 1990's era themed timetable with an intercity livery for the HST and Regional Railways livery for the 158. This could incorporate many layers from WCL, TVL and PBO and make for a very diverse and interesting timetable. Very good opportunity but I do not believe Skyhook would go that far.
     
  22. yansel#5383

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    Doesn't the Arosalinie gameplay pack include new freight wagons?
     
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  23. Bravo2six

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    I mean, that one was a mess, because it then turned into an entirely new route.

    Could be the rumored 156?
    Could be an update to the built but not used yards for freight
    Could be a new freight loco
    Could be new scenarios
     
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  24. TSW Nathan

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    Pullman pack maybe????

    Thought actually, it seems like everything is pointing to a 156 wich would be amazing
     
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    Why do people think it will be the 156?
     
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    Maybe it'll be the New Measurement Train Hst, that has potential to be a decent gameplay pack.
     
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    it is a Gameplay pack, not loco DLC, so no new loco, just a variant of something we have
     
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    There was a leak a few months back, I never saw it but some reputable members here did and verified the unnamed source as credible. It was a 156 unreal model with "its coming" on the destination board.
     
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  29. AirbourneAlex

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    Re-reading the roadmap, it states "bringing additional gameplay in the form of scenarios, new timetables, new liveries and rolling stock" so by that I suppose it could include new wagons/coaches etc. but not new locos/multiple units? (that would then be a loco DLC).
     
  30. matt#4801

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    I don't believe this is a 156, however I do think one is coming as I were one of the (reputable?) members who saw these unreal models with the PIS saying 'It's happening'. I do think this will just be another nowt to shout about release though which may or may not be of interest.
     
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  31. JetWash

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    Gameplay packs and loco DLC are not the same thing.

    A gameplay pack will be scenarios, a new timetable and/or some reskins. I’d say with near certainty that there is more chance of free and democratic elections in Russia than there is of it being a 156.
     
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  32. OldVern

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    However on the streams or other PR, it has not been unknown for DTG and partners to refer to reskins as "new locomotives" which IMHO they are patently not, leading to keyboards at dawn with the usual suspects... :)
     
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    After buying the bug filled MML route after initial release will hang back with this one. Want initial purchasers to beta test it first!
     
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  34. AtherianKing

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    I never to this day have picked up MML, so I doubt the new pack will prove valuable to me if it’s for that route, might still have a chance if it isn’t that route for me.

    Not going to lie though it might be quite fun to watch the forums find out if it’s a class 66 in a different livery :D
     
  35. Challenger3985

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    Seeing their last gameplay pack was using pretty much their own loco, wouldn't be surprising if they're doing the same thing in a different livery from an HST or the Sprinter from their Midland route. Not to mention there's Rivets gameplay pack that already have two different liveries for the Class 66s.
     
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  36. FallenAngel00me

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    Possibly a EMT skinned Class 150 layered onto MML
     
  37. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    If they do that they are going to have to re do the whole train phycics and sounds and like add in gaurds pannels and fix the mess rivet made with it.
     
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    To be fair the HST and Class 158 are very good. The HST in particular with the VP185 engine sound and cab doors open in motion far better than the limp wristed Azuma we got on ECML. The main problem with the route is that it’s just a tad too short, should really have run to Sheffield in the north or down to Bedford in the Home Counties.
     
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    EMT never operated class 150's.
     
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    Yea, the sprinters they used were:
    153
    156
    158
     
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    My bad. I always confuse it with the 153. Disregard my post and carry on as you were lol
     
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    Even though it's a gameplay pack and so won't come with a new train, the Class 180 will never come for the route as East Midlands Trains never used them.
     
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  43. TSW Nathan

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    They did but it was for a short time. Screenshot_20231110_081237_Chrome.jpg
     
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    I said East Midlands Trains, not Railway. Two different train operators. The route is set in the EMT days, not after the franchise change. Therefore a Class 180 would not be able to be made for the route realistically.
     
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    Read that again, but slowly.
     
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    The route is set in 2019 I believe.
     
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    You win this time, sneakily similar and totally unimaginative train operating company operator of the middle of the east of England
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    If it is a gameplay pack, and it is for their own MML route (important to remember that the gameplay pack could be for any UK route, and is not specifically restricted to their own) and if it is true that new stock won’t be included in gameplay packs, my thoughts are that it could bring the Central Trains livery to the 158 alongside an MML livery to the HST.

    Either that, or perhaps the licensing for EMR has been obtained and will prove EMR Branding to the HST alongside the purple livery to the 158, alongside the older livery with new branding with a possible inclusion of the pride unit
     
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  49. Doomotron

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    Either of those sound possible, although I don't think they'd be good additions (that isn't your fault, it would be their fault for making it) as it doesn't really bring anything new to the table for the route. Something to do with freight would be more interesting, although I'd expect it would come with another 66 that we didn't ask for.
     
  50. james64

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    Hot take but I really don't think either of those would have improved the route. It would be just adding length for the sake of it. You can still get up to high speed between Leicester and Derby/ Nottingham, and the regional services still feel substantial. Going down to Bedford would have limited what services you could drive as only some expresses stop there, not to mention being longer than the main route at nearly 50 miles.

    Agree about the 158 and the HST being great trains to drive though. The Azuma is really fun too but you seem to hate anything made post 2000...
     

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