Sncf/sbb Geneva - Lyon

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  1. alexander.s

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    Lyon–Geneva railway - Wikipedia
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    Z27894 passing by Fort de l'Ecluse one of the landmarks of the route, as well as Lake Geneva and the city of Geneva itself with its fountain and Lyon railway station.

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    lenght: 167km
    journey time, 1h 30min
    max speed: 160km/h
    operator: SNCF, SBB
    countries: France, Switzerland

    A main railway line connecting the city of Lyon in France with Geneva in Switzerland and running through a region in the foothills of the Alps.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    You need to know there is a voltage at Bellegarde station 1.5kv to 25kv 50hz and Geneva area 15kv 16.7hz SBB CFF FFS. If you look closely at Swiss Trains operating in France it's the same 1.45m pantographs carbon strip being used. Swiss trains will lose power when running under ÖBB Deutsche Bahn 15kv 16.7hz 1.95m pantographs
     
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    This line uses three different power systems(SBB: 15kV 6.7Hz AC, SNCF: 25kV 50Hz AC and 1.5kV DC) which makes no sence and three signalling and train protection systems(SBB: Integra-Signum, ZUB-121, SNCF: KVB).

    cabdrive video:
     
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    Would love to see a scenic French route that isn't a dedicated high speed line. :)
     
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    More variety for French drains and here's the thing with this route it will need a freight locomotive capable of running 25kv 50hz 15kv 16.7hz 1.45m pantographs carbon strip and 1.95m pantographs Metalized carbon strip. For the TGV euroduplex and POS 1.95m pantographs Metalized carbon is also used on Deutsche Bahn Netze Hauptstrecke München-Augsburg.
     
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    With tilting trains, the journey time can be reduced to 1h 5min from today's 1h 25min(without stops, this video is from a regional train), which is also being tackled. Now only express trains run every 2 hours, the frequency will be extended to every 1 hour. In the future.
     
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    La géographie de la Suisse - YouTube

    The Romandie is the French-speaking part of Switzerland with French/Swiss culture. Wallonie is the French speaking part of Belgique. Switzerland has always been a multicultural country. The Swiss back in the 16th century the German core together with Bern conquered and colonized Vaud, Fribourg, Neuchâtel, Jura, Genève and Valais. The Confederates, who were always striving for more power, then lost more wars and could not expand their territory any further. Until today it has remained a part of Switzerland and due to French absolutism, French revolution, world wars, tax advantages and wage levels in the new times, etc. they wanted to stay in Switzerland. The Swiss franc resulted from the French franc.
    In the 18th century, the Huguenots (Protestant French) were persecuted and fled to French-speaking Switzerland. They brought the Swiss watch industry. Parts of what we Swiss see as Swiss cuisine actually came from France via French-speaking Switzerland. For example, meatball pâté. That is actually typically French.
     
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    Schweizer shoppen in Euroland | Wirtschaft kompakt - YouTube
    This is also Swiss culture. Living where there are low taxes, high salaries and go shopping in foreign countries where everything is cheap.

    We know that there never was a German nation and that Germany has only existed for 120 years. We just live with the fact that there is always a hard border between the German-speaking part of Switzerland and the federal part of Germany, we are not part of the EU, but we live with the many advantages in the land of milk and honey.
     
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    For the rolling stock I propose the BB22000 corail VTU B11 and pilot cars the BB27000 prima and the AGC
     

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