So You Just Lost Your Favorite Menu Music.....

The first thing you will notice is that you may have lost your favorite menu music with the update to TSC2024. For me it was the sound of a rail yard with rail cars being moved in the background. If you have a current backup of TSC you can get these back.
Go to your back up copy of TSC. Locate Assets/KUJU/RailSimulatorCore/Audio. Search for UI_FrontEndLoop.DAV and copy this file.
Then go to the current Assets/KUJU/RailSimulatorCore/Audio. Search for UI_FrontEndLoop.DAV and rename to UI_FrontEndLoop.DAV_X if you want to back it up, or you can delete. Then drop your copied file here. Note this must be a DAV file for this to work.
You will then have the menu music from your backup version of TSC. Be sure to have menu music enabled.
If you do not have a backup you can download the audio file from here: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/m296...udio.zip?rlkey=7tvplzkk5m3p3knzycttnf450&dl=1
Follow the above directions for file replacement.

 

I've always disliked the shunting 'music'. I love having the old music back.

 

you enjoy listening to this dirge, more suitable for a crematorium?
TSW menu music is only a little better, elevator music, or the music played to drive bums and vagabonds from the entrance to the mall ...

 

Yes. That's why I said I enjoy it.

 

My game has not updated it yet, so I managed to create a backup. Would it be illegal for me to share the file here for those needing it? Or is this safe for me to provide?

 

What about this one?

 

Best for long trains.

 

Woah, what’s with the rather extreme negative attitude towards this menu music? It’s fine if you don’t like it but this all sounds a bit much! I agree on having an option to change the menu music to different variations if you don’t like it but the musics fine in my opinion. It feels very calming and explorative which I think fits very well for a Train Simulation game.

and I cannot deny some of it is a bit nostalgia bias since I started playing this game long ago when this music was around but it’s not like I can’t “accept change”. I think the game is changing for the better and definitely improving from its state ages ago, I just simply love the menu music as I feel it’s both fitting for the game and a good reminder of the classic origins of it too.

 

I love this one.... amazing band totally underrated

 

Personally, from a video making perspective, I can't easily cut around something I want to remove in menu commentary without making it obvious I've cut it. It could be somewhat missed before, but now you have to literally submit a gap in the music to cut out something or re-record the entire bit there.

I also agree having options for menu music and sound effects, including a "none", would be ideal.

 

We've had that since forever...go to Audio in the Settings menu

and as we're in music and trains mode...

No Trains To Heaven (youtube.com)

 

You answered your own question, I have rather extreme negative attitude towards this menu music because I have a rather extreme negative attitude towards the menu music.

Obviously.

 

Has Shania Twain done a train related song?......

 

That was Sheena not Shania

 

It's copyrighted.

 

That was my concern, hence why I did not just share it. I will contact the proper people to see if I can post it anyway, but until then I will just keep it handy.

 

Shania Train…..

Maybe they should have licenced Kraftwerks Trans Europe Express.

I think i disabled menu music long ago.

 

It was a rhetorical question!

I did too because for the past few years it’s hardly been music. It’s been a bunch of shunting clank sound effects, I’m on the menu not in the yard just yet!

 

Nice to see how smooth the update went, and people's only concern is a change of a soundfile they can swap themselves. The older players will have made backups to get the file back or download an old version of the depot, the newer players won't care.

It's TS 2014's tenth anniversary, which brought a lot of changes (menu, .ap format, editor enhancements - I think the Asset Blocks were introduced then). So I think the decision was good to put the 2014 music instead of some sounds back in - even though I have it disabled.

Personally, I think the ETS2 menu music is a timeless, smooth, moody piece of music that never gets old (and never was changed).

 

We need someone to create this for TSC.

BTW, I've seen it changed during holiday events.

 

Probably because it wasn't composed and played on a 20 quid Casio keyboard like the TSC one was.

 

Probably my favourite intro music was for Farming Simulator 2017

 

But then there's nothing more epic and melodic than Chris Hülsbeck's absolute and undisputed masterpiece... 33 years old now.



And the whole piece is only 99 KB in size (It's sort of custom MIDI (MDAT) using an 8bit sampleset (SMPL) file and very clever Assembler sound routine coding by Chris (it's played "live" at runtime instead of replaying a saved waveform), who also coded his own music software on the C64.) You had to fit the game, graphics, and soundtrack on an 880KB floppy disk back then, running on a 512KB RAM machine. People were forced to be innovative back then.

My preserved Amiga - I had ripped the sounds from almost all games I had...

 

It's epic.... this ad puts it in context.

 

My God, you found the one thing I hate more than the TSC music, I absolutely loathe MIDI music... *insert vomiting emoji*

 

Ok, slightly upwards on the epic scale but that's 100% because of Sean Beans narration nothing to do with the background music, good promo trailer though, I'll give it that.

 

Of course this is the most epic promo of all time..

 

It is not MIDI in that it does use its own samples. It's just the way it's done, by making patterns and using realtime effects. MP3 was not invented back then, so you were using notes, effects, tracks, patterns, samples and FM.

Check this Metal version:


Or Orchestra:

 

Ok hair splitting time, MIDI styled music aka every shitty 8bit and 16bit game noise..

 

Nothing better than crunchy 8 bit sound maaan!!!

It's a fight!

 

Can we get the music from Youtube's allowed tracks playlist? At least it's good for Youtube.

 

Nostalgic crusty old fogeys, next you'll be telling us how much change you had left over when you bought a loaf of bread..

 

There's a lot of great 8-bit and 16-bit tunes that exist, there's a reason so many of them get reused in later games or get fan remixes all the time. Even if you don't like say Ice Cap Zone due to all the 16 bit noises-

-they're often really solid compositions when actually played with updated midis or actual instruments.

 

Lol, I see you had a cameo in the trailer

 

Personally, I didn't care one way or the other. So little time is spent in the menu screen that although I'm not a fan of the new music, it's not there long enough to get on my nerves.

 

I absolutely loved the TS2014 menu music, I'm glad it's back. Something that I might do is create a backup of all of the menu music versions that TS has had. I can get the shunting sounds and TS2014 with the update and Rail Simulator as I own that on Origin, and then we'd just need TS2015 (I believe it would be possible to download TS2015 using the Steam command line) and TS2013 and earlier, assuming they use a different sound set to Rail Simulator. I'm not sure how we'd get the last one. Alternatively, I'm sure DTG have the files for all of them somewhere, so it would be nice to have them collaborate to get it done. Maybe they have lossless versions of the music as well? I'd love to have those as part of my music collection.

Once assembled, I could upload it to the TSC website.

 

I literally just created a thread for this. So my Google Drive download is also available. LOL

 

Maybe i should record a piece of music for the TSC intro menu….

 

TS2013 used shunting ambience too, some bells can be heard.


TS2015 I don't have here currently, but that can be quickly checked... got it. Piano tune, slow strings, bigger filesize than 2014's. Bit depressing, more like an outro imho



TS2016 -> TSClassic: same

 

That is the plan. Also a good instruction should anyone create their own menu music. I know it's on ATS, not sure if it is anywhere else but should go to the trainsimcommunity site too if possible.

I found a couple more older options I will post, too.

That has the same amount of trivia value as "Liz Truss" in a pop quiz, though the latter will make you out to be a trivia god.

 

So that's a Public Domain soundfile?

 

For everyone wanting to use their own music, use the DAVConverter by Ben Laws (S9BL - the guy who modelled the original 159 and 390). Converts DAV to WAV and vice versa. Then name your file UI_FrontEndLoop.dav, put into Kuju\RailSimulatorCore\Audio and you should be fine. Don't know if there's a size limit though. Test it!

https://rail-sim.de/forum/filebase/entry/31-dav-audio-decoder/

 

Do you mind posting that here? I'll update to add a link to DAVConverter.

 

Done.

 

Any plans to add a Quality of Life feature where it’s an inbuilt setting to change the menu music? For example; a tab where you can select TS2014 Music, TS2015 Music, TS2016+ Shunting Sound Effects; etc? Or even better, an inbuilt menu music uploader as well that doesn’t require you to go into the game files yourself may be an idea to consider?

 

Yeah, Doom E1M1 style !!! (which borrowed heavily from Metallica's No Remorse)

 

Created the VTC, built and Admin'd the forum, wrote the VTC ruleset, the skins (oh my god so many skins), starred as the driver in every clip, recorded it, edited it, so yeah you could say I had a cameo role.