South Wales Network (class 800, 143 & 150)

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  1. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Introduction
    The South Wales Mainline is a key commuter corridor in the south of Wales, this proposal being between Cardiff Central and Bridgend with the line via Barry and Barry Island included as well, as well as a couple of others
    Route Length
    As this route has via points and branches and the rest of it, I will break this down.
    Cardiff Central - Bridgend (Via Barry), Barry Island Branch & Penarth Branch:
    29 Miles (47.1km)
    Cardiff Central - Bridgend (Mainline):
    20 Miles
    Radyr - Cardiff Central/Queen Street (City Line)
    4 Miles (Cent) / 5 Miles (Queen)
    Cardiff Central - Coryton (Coryton Line)
    5 Miles
    Cardiff Queen Street - Cardiff Bay
    1 Mile
    Forming an overall network of 59 Miles

    Operations
    Operators

    Transport for Wales (TfW)
    Great Western Railway (GWR)
    Rolling Stock
    Included

    Class 800 (GWR)
    14612_tn_gb-gwr-class800-iep-paddington.jpg
    Part of the 'A-Train' family alongside the Class 395, featured in SEHS, the Class 800 operates Intercity services across the GER Network.

    Class 143 (TfW)
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    The Class 143 'Pacer' is a rather old unit.
    Do you like it or hate it?

    Class 150 (TfW)
    Class-150-refurb-Taffs-Well.jpg

    Layers (Great Western Express, AI Only)

    Class 43 HST
    Class 166 DMU

    Potential DLC
    Class 153
    Class_153_at_Ty_Glas_station_crop_(geograph_6162860).jpg

    Services
    Drivable
    Transport for Wales
    • 1tph Bridgend to Radyr (Aberdare) {Class 143, Class 150}
    • 1tph Barry Island to Radyr (Aberdare) {Class 143, Class 150}
    • 2tph Barry Island to Radyr (Merthyr Tydfil) {Class 150, Class 143)
    • 2tph Cardiff Central to Radyr (Treherbert)
    • 2tph Radyr - Coryton {Class 143, Class 150}
    • 5tph Cardiff Queen Street - Cardiff Bay {Class 143, Class 150}
    • 1tp2h (Swansea) Bridgend - Cardiff Central {Class 150, Class 143}
    • 3tph Penarth - Cardiff Central (Bargoed) {Class 143, Class 150}
    • 1tph Penarth - Cardiff Central (Rhymney) {Class 143, Class 150}
    Great Western Railway
    • (London Paddington) Cardiff Central - Bridgend (Swansea) {Class 800}
    AI ONLY
    Transport for Wales
    • 1tph Cardiff Central (to Ebbw Vale Town) [Only Cardiff Shown] {Class 150}
    GWR
    • (London Paddington) - Cardiff Central [Only Cardiff Shown] {Class 800}
    • Cardiff Central - (Portsmouth Harbour) [Only Cardiff Shown] {Class 166}
    • Cardiff Central - (Taunton) [Only Cardiff Shown] {HST}

    Stations
    (All lines from Cardiff Central or Queen Street)

    Major Stations in Bold
    (Branches in Brackets)
    Depots, Yards & Sidings in Italics
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    Cardiff - Bridgend Via Barry

    Cardiff Queen Street
    Cardiff Central

    (Mainline branches off to Bridgend)
    Cardiff Canton Depot
    (City Line branches off to Radyr)
    Grangetown
    (Penarth Branch branches off)
    Cogan
    Eastbrook
    Dinas Powys
    Cadoxton
    (Barry Docks)
    Barry Docks Station
    Barry
    (Barry Island Station)
    Rhoose for Cardiff Airport

    Llantwit Major
    Bridgend
    ------------------------------------
    Penarth Branch

    (Branches off from Vale Line)
    Dingle Road
    Penarth
    ------------------------------------
    Bridgend via the Mainline

    Cardiff Central
    Ninian Park
    Pontyclun
    Llanharan
    Pencoed
    Bridgend
    ------------------------------------
    Butetown Branch Line

    Cardiff Queen Street

    Cardiff Bay
    ------------------------------------
    City Line

    Cardiff Queen Street
    Cardiff Central

    (Splits off from Vale Line)
    Ninian Park
    Waun-gron Park
    Fairwater
    Danescourt
    Radyr
    ------------------------------------
    Coryton Line

    Cardiff Central
    Cardiff Queen Street

    Heath Low Level
    Ty Glas
    Birchgrove
    Rhiwbina
    Whitchurch
    Coryton
    Route facts:

    59 Miles long
    Has 31 Stations
    Modern Day

    Reasoning:
    General Reasons

    I was originally writing this to be this route to Swansea with the Branches. I decided not to because it was far too long.
    Rolling Stock Choices (also why this era)
    Class 143: A British rail icon Still to show up in TSW. Fits this route perfectly.
    Class 150: It's a sprinter. Plus I have seen numerous requests for the sprinter units.
    Class 800: Again well requested, or at least the 80- in general. Adds some Intercity into this
    Layers:
    For owners of Great Western Express the HST and Class 166 would layer as AI Trains
    Era choice
    I know Arriva is a no-go for Wales so TfW it is

    Thanks for reading.
     
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  2. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Cardiff-Central-Train-Station.jpg
    Cardiff Central Cardiff_Queen_St._(19366639218).jpg Cardiff Queen Street 1280px-Bridgend_Railway_Station,_Sept_2018.jpg Bridgend Radyr_Railway_Station_(geograph_6020896).jpg
    Radyr Barry_(Town)_railway_station,_Vale_of_Glamorgan_(geograph_5707430).jpg
    Barry
     
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    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Penarth Penarth_-_Arriva_150264.jpeg Cardiff Bay Cardiff_Bay_Railway_Station_(geograph_6004274).jpg
     
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  4. AirbourneAlex

    AirbourneAlex Well-Known Member

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    Again I've got a map of a potential route like this for the valley lines to Treherbert, Aberdare and Merthyr Tydfil from Cardiff Central, possible extensions being the Penarth, Coryton, Rhymney and the freight line to Bargoed for coal. Other lines like to Maesteg, Bridgend, Barry Island, Ebbw Vale and Newport are other possibilities. The lines in red are a sensible distance though.
    Welsh Valley Lines + Extensions.png
     
  5. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Excellent idea and I wonder what route can this link into and provided there is a linked route feature for TSW. If you play this route on Sister game Train Sim 21 this is also sold as a Stand Alone route or combined with Great Western Main Line as the western Lines. Meaning you can operate all the way from Cardiff all the way to London Paddington Station
     
  6. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Well this route couldn't link with any current routes. The closest route would be either WSR by distance.
     
  7. formulabee#1362

    formulabee#1362 Well-Known Member

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    Great proposal, we need a Welsh route!
     
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  8. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    This is more the map of the proposal I had made Screenshot_20210515_173631.jpg
     
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  9. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Or for a geographical view Screenshot_20210515_180112.jpg
     
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  10. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Wsr is South of Bristol Newport Swansea only logical choice is the Great Western Main Line because trains on this route towards London Paddington Station reach Reading Station. Milage Zero on South Wales lines is London Paddington station.
     
  11. trainsimplayer

    trainsimplayer Well-Known Member

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    Yes but there is no way to connect them at the moment.
    You would need to build Cardiff - Paddington, which itself is most likely going to have to be broken down.
     
  12. AirbourneAlex

    AirbourneAlex Well-Known Member

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    That works too. Good suggestion. Hopefully the TfW license can be obtained that's the only real hurdle.
     
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  13. formulabee#1362

    formulabee#1362 Well-Known Member

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    It’s Welsh government atm
     
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  14. sophieclarke1983

    sophieclarke1983 Well-Known Member

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    Fabulous idea and such a lovely variety of services and rolling stock I’d definitely buy it
     
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