Southeastern: London-sevenoaks

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  1. karan#5946

    karan#5946 Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys today I will be suggesting a route for TSW 4 that is the Southeastern from London victoria and Charing Cross to Sevenoaks via Orpington.
    The trains included will be the Class 465 and the Class 707 and 375.
    Let’s start with the 465.
    The British Rail Class 465 Networker is a class of 147 electric multiple units built by Metro-Cammell, British Rail Engineering Limited (BREL) and ABB Rail between 1991 and 1994. Originally operated by Network South East,[6] these units are now run by Southeastern.

    In service 1 December 1992 – present
    Manufacturer
    Built at
    Family name Networker
    Replaced
    Constructed 1991–1994
    Refurbished
    • 2005 (465/2 conversion to /9)
    • 2010–2012
    • 2016
    Number built 147
    Number in service 131[1]
    Successor Class 707
    Formation
    • 4 cars per 465/0, /1, /2 unit:
      DMSO(A)-TSO-TSOL-DMSO(B)[2]
    • 4 cars per 465/9 unit:
      DMCO(A)-TSO-TSOL-DMCO(B)
    Capacity
    • 465/0: 334 seats
    • 465/1: 334 seats
    • 465/2: 331 seats
    • 465/9: 319 seats[3]
    Owner(s)
    Operator(s)
    Specifications
    Car body construction
    Aluminium
    Car length
    • DM vehs.: 20.89 m (68 ft 6 in)
    • Trailers: 20.06 m (65 ft 10 in)[2]
    Width 2.81 m (9 ft 3 in)[2]
    Height 3.77 m (12 ft 4 in)
    Doors Double-leaf sliding plug
    (2 per side per car)
    Maximum speed 75 mph (121 km/h)[2]
    Weight
    • DMSO vehs.: 39.2 t (38.6 long tons; 43.2 short tons)
    • TSO vehs.: 27.2 t (26.8 long tons; 30.0 short tons)
    • TSOL vehs.: 28.0 t (27.6 long tons; 30.9 short tons)[2]
    Traction system
    Traction motors
    Power output 2,240 kW (3,000 hp)
    Acceleration 0.98 m/s2 (3.2 ft/s2)[5]
    Electric system(s) 750 V DC third rail
    Current collector(s) Contact shoe
    UIC classification Bo′Bo′+2′2′+2′2′+Bo′Bo′
    Bogies
    • 465/0 & /1:
    • Powered: BREL P3
    • Unpowered: BREL T3
    • 465/2 and & /9:[2]
    • Powered: SRP BP58
    • Unpowered: SRP BT49
    Braking system(s) Electro-pneumatic(disc) and rheostatic/regenerative[2]
    Safety system(s)
    Coupling system Tightlock[2]
    Multiple working Within class, and with Class 466[4]
    Track gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) standard gauge.
    The Class 465 has been running on the southeastern mainline since the 1990s and is still running to this day.
    The Class 465/0/1 have the same Motors but the /9 has a different motor
    The 465/0 and 1 have hitachi motors but the /9 has Metro Cammel Motors.
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    This is what the 465/0 and 1 look like.
    They’re both the same and has the same design with the same interior as each other.
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    This is the interior of the 465/0 and 1.
    The handle bars are coloured blue and some other parts of the interior can be blue.
    Let’s have a look at the /9.
    Acceleration: 0.98 m/s2 (3.2 ft/s2)
    Doors: Double-leaf sliding plug; (2 per side per car)
    Formation: : 4 cars per 465/0, /1, /2 unit: DMSO(A)-TSO-TSOL-DMSO(B); 4 cars per 465/9 unit: DMCO(A)-TSO-TSOL-DMCO(B);
    In service: 1 December 1992 – present
    Refurbished: 2005 (465/2 conversion to /9); 2010–2012; 2016
    These trains have a max speed of 75mph on the Southeastern Network.
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    This is the exterior of the 465/9.
    The front of the train is abit different to the /1 and 0 units.
    The doors look abit newer on the /9 units as these were recently refurbished around 2016.
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    This is the interior of the 465/9.
    The handle bars are coloured orange instead of blue in these units.
    Most of the train interior is coloured orange instead of blue.
     
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    karan#5946 Well-Known Member

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    Now let’s move onto the Class 375 electrostar.
    The British Rail Class 375 Electrostar is an electric multiple unit train that was built by Bombardier Transportation (previously Adtranz) at Derby Litchurch Lane Works, from 1999 to 2005. The class form part of the Electrostar family of units, which also includes classes 357, 376, 377, 378, 379 and 387, is the most numerous type of EMU introduced since the privatisation of British Rail.
    In service 2000–present
    Manufacturer
    Built at Derby Litchurch Lane Works
    Family name Electrostar
    Replaced
    Constructed 1999–2005
    Refurbished 2015–2018
    Number built 140
    Number in service
    Formation
    • 375/3: 3 cars per unit
    • Others: 4 cars per unit
    Capacity
    • 375/3: 176 seats
    • 375/9: 273 seats
    • Others: 236 seats
    Operator(s) Southeastern
    Specifications
    Car length
    20.39 m (66 ft 11 in) (end cars)
    19.98 m (65 ft 7 in) (middle cars)
    Width 2.80 m (9 ft 2 in)[citation needed]
    Height 3.78 m (12 ft 5 in)[citation needed]
    Maximum speed 100 mph (161 km/h)
    Weight 133.1 t (131.0 long tons; 146.7 short tons) (375/3)
    173.6 t (170.9 long tons; 191.4 short tons) (Others)[citation needed]
    Traction motors 6–8 × 250 kW (340 hp)
    Power output
    • 375/3: 1,000 kW (1,300 hp)
    • Others: 1,500 kW (2,000 hp)
    [citation needed]
    Acceleration 0.62 m/s2 (1.4 mph/s)
    Electric system(s)
    Current collector(s)
    Coupling system
    Track gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) standard gauge
    These trains could go up to 100mph instead of 75mph which means these are faster than the 465s.
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    This is the exterior of the 375 electrostar units.
    The exterior is the same as the 377 and 387 but with a dark blue color.
    This was the first ever train on southeastern to have air conditioning.
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    This is the interior of the Class 375
    It has the same handle bar color as the 465/0 and 1.
    The seats have the same maquette as the 465 units.
    Let’s move onto the Class 707 which will be a DLC.
    The British Rail Class 707 Desiro City is an electric multiple unit passenger train. Siemens Mobility built 30 five-carriage sets. Initially leased by South West Trains, its franchise successor South Western Railway began phasing them out of their network. Since September 2021,[7] 18 have entered service with Southeastern. The remaining 12 are due to be transferred to Southeastern by late 2023.
    In service 17 August 2017 – present
    Manufacturer Siemens Mobility
    Built at Krefeld, Germany
    Family name Desiro City
    Replaced
    Constructed 2015–2018[2]
    Entered service 2017
    Number built 30
    Successor Class 701 (SWR)
    Formation
    • 5 cars per unit:[3]
    • DMOS-TOS-TOS(L)W-(P)TOS-DMOS
    Fleet numbers 707001–707030
    Capacity 275 seats[2]
    Owner(s) Angel Trains
    Operator(s)
    Depot(s)
    Line(s) served
    • London Waterloo and Windsor[2]
    • London Waterloo and Hounslow[2] (via Brentford or Richmond)
    • London Waterloo and Weybridge[2] (via Brentford)
    • London Waterloo and Shepperton (via Wimbledon)
    Specifications
    Car body construction
    Aluminium
    Train length 101.6 m (333 ft 4 in)
    Car length
    • DM cars: 20.52 m (67 ft 4 in)
    • Trailers: 20.16 m (66 ft 2 in)
    Width 2.80 m (9 ft 2 in)
    Floor height 1.10 m (3 ft 7 in)
    Doors
    • Double-leaf pocket sliding
    • (2 per side per car)
    Wheel diameter 820–760 mm (32.28–29.92 in) (new–worn)[4]
    Wheelbase
    • Motor bogies: 2,200 mm (87 in)
    • Trailer bogies: 2,100 mm (83 in)[4]
    Maximum speed 100 mph (161 km/h)
    Weight
    Axle load
    • Motor bogies: 15.5 t (15.3 long tons; 17.1 short tons)
    • Trailer bogies: 14.5 t (14.3 long tons; 16.0 short tons)[4]
    Power output 1,200 kW (1,600 hp)
    Acceleration 0.85 m/s2 (1.9 mph/s)
    Electric system(s) 750 V DC third rail
    Current collector(s) Contact shoe
    UIC classification Bo′Bo′+2′2′+2′2′+2′2′+Bo′Bo′
    Bogies Siemens SGP SF7000[4]
    Minimum turning radius 120 m (390 ft)[4]
    Safety system(s)
    Coupling system Dellner
    Multiple working Within class
    Track gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) standard gauge
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    This is the exterior of the Class 707.
    It has the same color as the Class 375 and has the same maximum speed.
    It has the same design of a 700 but with 5 car units and a dark blue color.
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    This is the interior of the Class 707.
    It has orange bars same as the 465/9 trains and features PIS LED Screens onboard with air conditioning and is much more spacious.
    Now let’s move onto the stations on the line.
    The first route we will do is Charing Cross to Sevonoaks via Lewisham.
    This route goes via Lewisham to Sevonoaks.
    The Charing Cross service terminating at Sevonoaks uses the Class 465s, 707s and 375 units.
    The Class 375 will not terminate at Sevenoaks or stop there as the Class 375 does an express service to Hastings.
    So In the game the 465 and 707 from Charing Cross will call all stations to Sevonoaks via Lewisham but the 375 will serve Charing Cross, Waterloo East, London Bridge and Orpington.
     

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    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Very good suggestion!
     
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    karan#5946 Well-Known Member

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    Let’s see the stations on the Charing Cross to Sevenoaks line via Lewisham.
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    This is Charing Cross Station.
    Charing Cross railway station (also known as London Charing Cross)[4] is a central London railway terminus between the Strand and Hungerford Bridge in the City of Westminster. It is the terminus of the Southeastern Main Lines to Dover via Ashford and Hastings via Tunbridge Wells. All trains are operated by Southeastern, which provides the majority of commuter and regional services to south-east London and Kent. It is connected to Charing Cross Underground station and is near to Embankment Underground station and Embankment Pier.
    The station was originally opened by the South Eastern Railway in 1864. It takes its name from its proximity to the road junction Charing Cross, the notional "centre of London" from which distances from the city are measured. During the 19th century the station became the main London terminus for continental traffic via boat trains, and served several prestigious international services. It was badly damaged by a roof collapse in 1905 and extensively rebuilt, subsequently becoming an important meeting point for military and government traffic during World War I. By this time, Charing Cross station was seen as out of date by some politicians and proposals were made to replace Hungerford Bridge with a road bridge or road/rail combination, with the station moving to the south bank of the River Thames in the case of a road-only replacement. The station was bombed several times during World War II, and was rebuilt afterwards, re-opening in 1951. In the late 1980s, the station complex was redesigned by Terry Farrell and rebuilt to accommodate a modern office block, now known as Embankment Place.
    This is one of the biggest stations in London and it’s near Trafalgar Square in London.
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    This is Waterloo East Station.
    Waterloo East railway station, also known as London Waterloo East,[3] is a railway station in central London on the line from Charing Cross through to London Bridgetowards Kent, in the south-east of England. It is to the east of London Waterloo railway station and close to Southwark tube station.

    The station opened in 1869 as Waterloo Junction, to provide a connection between the London and South Western Railway at Waterloo, and the South Eastern Railway at Charing Cross. A dedicated line was built between Waterloo and Waterloo East, which was later converted to a footpath. Trains originally ran to Cannon Street, but after competition from the London Underground, these were withdrawn as a wartime measure in 1916. The station continued to be connected to Waterloo mainline via a footbridge. Waterloo East was given its current name in 1977, and remains an important interchange in London. It is part of the London station group.
    down the line from Charing Cross,[4] on the other side of the River Thames across from Hungerford Bridge. Although Waterloo East is a through-station, it is classed for ticketing purposes as a central London terminus.[5]

    Services through the station are operated by Southeastern and it is situated within fare zone 1. The main access is via an elevated walkway across Waterloo Road, which connects it to the larger Waterloo station.[6] The eastern ends of the platforms provide pedestrian connection to Southwark station which is served by London Underground's Jubilee line;[7] at street level there is an entrance in Sandell Street. Connections with the Underground's Bakerloo, Northern and Waterloo & City linesare available at Waterloo Underground station.[8]

    The four platforms at Waterloo East are lettered rather than numbered to ensure that staff and passengers do not confuse the platforms at the two stations.
    The station was built by the South Eastern Railway (SER) after the line to Charing Cross opened in 1864.[12] The company were under pressure to connect with London and South Western Railway (LSWR) services, as it would allow the latter to connect to the City of London via Cannon Street. The LSWR were not interested in making Charing Cross a joint station, but were amenable to providing a connection with the SER next to Waterloo.[13]

    In 1867, the two companies agreed to build a joint connection so that passengers could change from LSWR to SER services in order to reach the City of London via Cannon Street.[14]Another station, Blackfriars was built to the east, but it was closed in favour of a connecting station with the LSWR.[15]Construction of a single-line, 5-chain (100 m) connection begun in May 1868, and the new connection station opened on 1 January 1869 at a total cost of £14,290 (£1,404,000 as of 2021). Blackfriars station closed on the same date.[16][17] Trains began running from Waterloo Junction to Charing Cross and Cannon Street around every five minutes.[18] Queen Victoriaused the connection for royal trains travelling from Windsor Castle to Dover and Continental Europe.[19]

    The original station was built with two platforms, which were 530 feet (160 m) and 440 feet (130 m) long, and both 18 feet (5.5 m) wide. The waiting room and ticket offices were housed in arches underneath the line.[20] The bridge connection from the main Waterloo station included a movable platform, which allowed passengers to cross directly into Waterloo East when trains were not running. It was mounted on a four-wheel truck which could easily be moved out of the way if a train needed to come through.[21] The connection ran until January 1893, when it was discontinued because of overcrowding.[12]

    When the SER line opened between Charing Cross and Cannon Street in 1864, it was frequented by prostitutes, who discovered the journey between the two stations was sufficiently long to service clients while paying minimum rent. After Waterloo East opened, the frequent stopping of trains there made this impractical.[22]

    The connection from Waterloo Junction through to Cannon Street did not prove a success because of competition from the Metropolitan District Railway (now the District line) and the spread of the Underground.[23] Passengers were generally unaware of the existence of the station, as it was not obvious to find it from the main concourse in Waterloo.[24] Following the opening of the Waterloo and City line on 8 August 1898, connections to Cannon Street were reduced.[25] Cross train services from Waterloo Junction to Cannon Street ended on 31 December 1916, as a wartime economy measure.[26]

    The dedicated line from Waterloo through to Waterloo Junction was demolished in 1911 when the main-line station underwent an extensive reconstruction.[27] The bridge which carried the line over Waterloo Road subsequently accommodated the pedestrian walkway between the two stations.[28]
    Southern Railway and later
     
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    This is London Bridge Station.
    London Bridge is a central London railway terminus and connected London Undergroundstation in Southwark, south-east London. It occupies a large area on three levels immediately south-east of London Bridge, from which it takes its name. The main line station is the oldest railway station in London fare zone 1 and one of the oldest in the world having opened in 1836. It is one of two main line termini in London to the south of the River Thames (the other being Waterloo) and is the fourth-busiest station in London, handling over 50 million passengers a year.
    The station was originally opened by the London and Greenwich Railway as a local service. It subsequently served the London and Croydon Railway, the London and Brighton Railway and the South Eastern Railway, thus becoming an important London terminus. It was rebuilt in 1849 and again in 1864 to provide more services and increase capacity. Local services from London Bridge began to be electrified in the beginning of the 20th century, and had spread to national routes by the 1930s. The station was extensively rebuilt by British Rail during the 1970s, along with a comprehensive re-signalling scheme and track alignment. It was further redeveloped in the 2010s to better accommodate the Thameslinkroute which provides a connection to Gatwick Airport, Luton Airport and Crossrail.

    London Bridge is served by Southeasternservices from Charing Cross and Cannon Streetto destinations in southeast London, Kent and East Sussex and is a terminus for many Southerncommuter and regional services to south London and numerous destinations in South East England. Thameslink services from Bedford, Cambridge and Peterborough to Brighton and other destinations in Sussex and Kent began serving the station in 2018.
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    This is Lewisham Station.
    Lewisham is a National Rail and Docklands Light Railway station in Lewisham, south-east Londonwhich first opened in 1849. On the National Rail network it is 7 miles 61 chains (12.5 km) measured from London Victoria and is operated by Southeastern.
     
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    Hither Green is a railway station located in Hither Green in the London Borough of Lewisham, south-east London. It is 7 miles 16 chains (11.6 km) down the line from London Charing Cross and is situated between Lewisham and either Grove Park or Lee depending on the route.
    It is a busy commuter station with services to several London termini (Cannon Street, Charing Cross and London Bridge) and destinations to other parts of south-east London and the south-east of England (Orpington and Sevenoaks on the South Eastern Main Line, and Dartford and Gravesend on the Dartford Loop Line).

    It is in Travelcard Zone 3 and very close to Hither Green Traction Maintenance Depot (TMD), Grove Park Traction and Rolling Stock Maintenance Depot, and Grove Park Safety Training Centre. The station straddles the Prime Meridian, which is marked across the roof of the pedestrian tunnel forming the main entrance.

    The station and all trains are operated by Southeastern.
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    This is Grove Park Station.
     
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    Grove Park is a railway station in southeast London, England. It is located on Baring Road within Travelcard Zone 4, and serves the areas of Grove Park and Downham in the London Borough of Lewisham. It is 8 miles 78 chains down the line from London Charing Cross.
     
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    Great suggestion i think im gonna make a southeastern suggestion after reading this and southern routes. I would love to see especially since we haven't had a third rail route since tsw3
     
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    Chislehurst railway station is on the South Eastern Main Line, serving the neighbourhood of Chislehurst in the London Borough of Bromley. It is 11 miles 19 chains (18.1 km) down the line from London Charing Cross and is situated between Elmstead Woods and Petts Wood stations.
    It is in Travelcard Zone 5, and the station and all trains are operated by Southeastern.
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    Petts Wood railway station is on the South Eastern Main Line, serving Petts Wood in the London Borough of Bromley, south-eastern Greater London. It is 12 miles 53 chains (20.4 km) down the line from London Charing Cross and is situated between Chislehurst and Orpington stations. It is in Travelcard zone 5.
    It has four platform faces on islands located between the slow and fast pairs of tracks. To the north of the station is Petts Wood Junction, where the up (London-bound) and down (country-bound) loop lines link the lines from Charing Cross and Victoria. The station is managed by Southeastern. There is a waiting room serving the two slow lines. The booking office, Oystercard readers, and ticket machines are all situated at footbridge level; this footbridge is always open to non-passengers.
     
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    Orpington railway station is on the South Eastern Main Line, serving the town of Orpingtonin the London Borough of Bromley, south-east London. It is 13 miles 65 chains (22.2 km) down the line from London Charing Cross and is situated between Petts Wood and Chelsfieldstations. It is in Travelcard Zone 6.
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    Chelsfield railway station is on the South Eastern Main Line, serving the Chelsfield and Green Street Green areas south of Orpington, in the London Borough of Bromley, south-east London. It is 15 miles 25 chains (24.6 km) down the line from London Charing Cross and is situated between Orpington and Knockholtstations. It is in Travelcard Zone 6.
    The line on which it is located, and the station itself, was opened on 2 March 1868 by the South Eastern Railway to shorten its route from London to Dover. The building of the route, which crosses the North Downs, was a difficult undertaking, with steep gradients. At Chelsfield the line is rising steadily on a 1 in 120 gradient through the Chelsfield Tunnel beyond the station. It is said that this was an inspiration to E. Nesbitwhen writing The Railway Children.[3]
    The modern station building dates from the 1970s when its predecessor was damaged by fire.
     
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    is most of this copy and pasted from wikipedia?
     
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    This is Knockholt station.
    Knockholt railway station is on the South Eastern Main Line, located in the London Borough of Bromley, Greater London. It is 16 miles 44 chains (26.6 km) down the line from London Charing Cross and is situated between Chelsfield and Dunton Green stations. It is in Travelcard Zone 6 and is located next to the Greater London boundary with the Kent district of Sevenoaks. The boundary is the farm bridge at the southern end of the platforms.
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    This is Dunton Green Station.
    Dunton Green railway station is on the South Eastern Main Line in England, serving the village of Dunton Green, Kent. It is 20 miles 46 chains (33.1 km) down the line from London Charing Cross and is situated between Knockholt and Sevenoaks stations. Trains calling at the station are operated by Southeastern.
     
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    Yeah I could have took pictures of Sevenoaks but the tickets are £20 to £40 which is too expensive
     
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    the text I meant, I always get my suggestion pictures from google
     
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    This is Sevenoaks station that will be the last station in this suggestion.
    Sevenoaks railway station is a railway stationon the South Eastern Main Line in England, serving the town of Sevenoaks, Kent. It is 22 miles 9 chains (35.6 km) down the line from London Charing Cross and is situated between Dunton Green and Hildenborough stations. Trains calling at the station are operated by Southeastern and Thameslink.
    Trains from the station run northbound to London Bridge, Cannon Street, Waterloo East and Charing Cross via Orpington, or to Blackfriars via Swanley and Catford; and southbound to Ashford International and Ramsgate via Dover Priory, or Tunbridge Wells and Hastings.
    Now we have done all the stations let’s have a look at where routes will stop.
    First let’s have a look at the Class 375.
    The Class 375 calls at less stations due to it being an express service on southeastern. Players can drive the 375 to Sevenoaks aswell but the 375 route will serve Charing Cross, Waterloo East, London Bridge and Sevenoaks.
    This 375 route terminates at Hastings but players can drive the 375 as far as Sevenoaks.
    The 465 and 707 call at call stations via Lewisham to Sevenoaks.
    There will be AI services aswell at Charing Cross like trains to Dartford.
    At London Bridge there will be AI Class 700s going to Rainham and Luton and Southern 377s to Epsom, Victoria and other places.
    There will be AI services at other stations aswell.
    Thank you for looking at this suggestion remember to comment your thoughts below about this route suggestion.
     
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    Oh that’s from Wikipedia
     
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    Yes, you copy and pasted all the text
     
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    Wondered why it was so detailed. :|
     
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