Southeastern Packs

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  1. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    Right, before someone says "this is too huge to make" I'm gonna split it into two seperate packs

    Pack 1: Southeastern London (suburban)

    This would be London Vic / Blackfriars / Charing X / Cannon Street to Dartford, Swanley, Tonbridge (may as well include bat & ball), Bromley North and Hayes.
    Include connections to the BML via Longhedge Junction for freight (one possible route that could finally happen is Hoo Junction - South Croydon / Crawley New Yard / Newhaven)

    Pack 2: Southeastern Kent
    Routes from Swanley to Rochester and Ashford, Ashford to Ramsgate (including via dover), Dover to Faversham, Tonbridge to Ashford (including via Ore and just extend it East to Eastbourne) and Strood.
    Maybe Dollands Moor too if it's not related to the Channel Tunnel Licensing
    Now you may be asking
    why did you suggest this in the first place, can't you be grateful for SEHS?
    Well, SEHS is cool and all, but I find it a bit lacking, sure we have a Dartford / St Pancras to Faversham lasting nearly an hour, but what annoys me is how the St Pancras - St Pancras just terminates at Ashford or Faversham and you sort of have to find that route again on timetable mode to do the return leg, or that the St Pancras - Dover or Sandwich terminates just a few stops away. Not only that but most freight routes are just Hoo Junction - Dartford and Strood repeatedly, and the only timetable we had over 30/40 minutes I believe was 0Z02 Kensington Olympia - Kensington Olympia which isn't really a freight route either.

    Isn't this too much for Dovetail Games?
    Maybe it sounds like a lot, but when you put the BML into perspective it does seem possible really, especially just splitting it into two packs (idk if you guys want it one for the price or two for the playability)

    My concerns on this?
    Lag. Literally just lag that's it. Not time, not features, not detail, just lag. I was so disappointed when I couldn't even drive the Bakerloo line on my PC but when I got TSW3 on PS5 it really didn't lag a lot, but still doesn't mean that merging 4 routes into a single gameplay wouldn't cause any lag of concern

    Why did I suggest this?
    Do I live in the area? No.
    Did I ever go there? No (except Hs1 on the Eurostar)
    Would I want to go there? Probably not
    It's not about me wanting to physically be there in the reality but just the gameplay I'm all in for. I'd love to drive a several-hour freight service and watch myself rage as I am no longer assured of getting a gold medal lol.
    Point is, I'd like multiple long and lengthy routes in both freight and passenger

    What trains should there be?
    Oh look, we already have them as it turns out. The 465, 700, 375. Oh and a 466 just to complete the fleet
     

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  2. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't say SEHS is lacking; it did its job well. But we do need a route for the 465 to be able to stretch its legs a bit.
     
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  3. TSW Nathan

    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    Yea. And the 700 (on DC preferably)
     
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  4. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    Yup
     
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  5. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    I appreciate the existence of the Dartford to Faversham route for the 465 and 375, but it still seems too short. Extending it westwards to Tonbridge, Charing X or Dover and Ashford would definitely do the trick
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    It is short, yes, but doesn't mean the route itself is lacking.

    Like I've said before, any new Southeastern routes will come as a separate entity to the already existing SEHS, not as an extension of it.
     
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  7. Trainiac

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    These extensions deserve their own route imo. Adding anymore put less emphasis on the high-speed section of the route which is one of the main selling points. It’ll just become another commuter route.
     
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  8. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    That's precisely what I've said already.
     
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    Trainiac Well-Known Member

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    Yes…I don't see the harm in me reiterating the same point. If anything it makes the overall message stronger
     
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  10. Lil jj

    Lil jj Well-Known Member

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    90 miles?
     
  11. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    The 'short' bit comes from the route not going to London Charing X, Dover or Ramsgate.
     
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  12. Lil jj

    Lil jj Well-Known Member

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    alright :)
     
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  13. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    Thanks
     

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