Route Southend Line: London Liverpool Street To Southend Victoria

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  1. AirbourneAlex

    AirbourneAlex Well-Known Member

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    Southend Line: London Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria

    Introduction:
    The London Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria line is a 25kV AC Overhead electrified commuter railway connecting the city of London to the seaside town of Southend via the Great Eastern Main Line, branching off at Shenfield.

    The line has a very busy timetable with multiple service patterns, and varied scenery from the suburbs of London to open countryside of Essex. This route would provide the eastern segment of Crossrail's Elizabeth line, a much requested and well known modern metro line in London, as well as two new train types of the Aventra family.

    The route should include both the new Class 345 and Class 720, these being similar in design to the Class 710 and operating the majority of playable services. The Class 315 and Class 321 could feature in an expansion pack, substituting into the existing timetable or creating a separate backdated timetable.

    The route should be set in the modern day, subject to licensing with Greater Anglia and TfL. Alternatively the route could be set in the mid 90's using the Class 315 and Class 321 in Network SouthEast livery.

    The Route:
    -London Liverpool Street to Shenfield, 20 miles. The main section of the route featuring a four track main line throughout, currently acting as the eastern end of the Elizabeth line using the Class 345 with services entering and exiting the Crossrail core from a tunnel south of Stratford. On the fast lines, Greater Anglia operate fast and semi-fast services calling at Stratford, Romford and Shenfield only, primarily with the Class 720.

    -Shenfield to Southend Victoria, 22 miles. A branch of the GEML heading to Southend Victoria via Wickford. Currently operated by Greater Anglia using the Class 720 and until recently the Class 321, with services heading through to London Liverpool Street.

    -Wickford to Southminster, 16 miles. A branch of the Southend Victoria line also known as the Crouch Valley Line, largely single track with one passing loop. Services are operated by Greater Anglia with the Class 720.

    -Romford to Upminster, 3 miles. This short single track branch connects passengers from the GEML to the London, Tilbury and Southend Line via a single intermediate stop at Emerson Park. Currently operated by London Overground using the Class 710.

    Southend Line Map.jpg
    Route Map

    Services:
    -London Liverpool Street to Shenfield, 45 minutes. 8 trains per hour. Elizabeth Line
    -London Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria, 55 minutes. 4 trains per hour. Greater Anglia
    -Wickford to Southminster, 30 minutes. 2 trains per hour. Greater Anglia
    -Romford to Upminster, 10 minutes. 2 trains per hour. London Overground

    This would include many other Greater Anglia services heading northbound from Shenfield to Colchester, Ipswich and Norwich, playable as far as Shenfield, as well as additional AI services in and out of London Liverpool Street via the West Anglia Main Line from Bethnal Green.

    Train Types
    Class 345 - Operates TfL Elizabeth Line services between London Liverpool Street and Shenfield.
    Class 720 - Operates Greater Anglia commuter services to Southend Victoria and Southminster.

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    Class 345 at Shenfield

    Class 720.jpg
    Class 720 at Romford

    DLC Options:
    Class 315 - Operated TfL Elizabeth Line services between London Liverpool Street and Shenfield (having been replaced by the Class 345).
    Class 321 - Operated Greater Anglia commuter services to Southend Victoria and Southminster (having been replaced by the Class 720).

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    Class 315

    Class 321.jpg
    Class 321

    Layers
    Class 710 - Operates London Overground services on the Romford to Upminster branch along with AI services on the Lea Valley Lines out of London Liverpool Street and at Stratford for the North London Line services.

    Class 66 - Container freight and aggregate trains along the GEML from Stratford to Shenfield.

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    Class 710 at London Liverpool Street

    Summary:
    -42 mile route between London Liverpool Street and Southend Victoria via the Great Eastern Main Line.
    -Option for two branches, to Southminster and Upminster.
    -Varied scenery and a busy timetable.
    -Two new train types, the Class 345 and Class 720.
    -Option for the older Class 315 and Class 321 as an expansion or if backdated.
    -Layering for the Class 710 and Class 66.

    As usual, all thoughts and additional ideas welcome.
     
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  2. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    YES YES YES, An amazing route to come to TSW! I would love this mate!
     
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  3. Kim1087

    Kim1087 Well-Known Member

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    Good Suggestion :love:
     
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  4. TrainGeek08

    TrainGeek08 Well-Known Member

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    Fantastic suggestion, I think having a commuter route like this out of London Liverpool Street would do really well and route mileage is a doable length and if the timetable is spot on, it could turn into another 'London Commuter'-esque route but on the GEML rather than the BML :)
     
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  5. AirbourneAlex

    AirbourneAlex Well-Known Member

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    Certainly, subject to the TOCs being licensed this could easily be one of the busiest routes in-game!
     
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  6. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Like fr
     
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    Yep, which will please plenty of players who liked the Rush Hour routes :)
     
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  8. OldVern

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    Class 305 retro layer for me please!
     
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  9. Indege

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    I am a modern kind of guy but I would love this to be set in the days of the 315s 321s and 90s. BUT for the sake of layers and services modern is good so the 710 can layer
     
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    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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  11. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    Great route. It would be an extremely fun route and multiple people have reccomended this on the forums.
     
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  12. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Imagine it comes as a tsw5 release if it comes
     
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  13. AirbourneAlex

    AirbourneAlex Well-Known Member

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    GEML was one of my favourite routes in TSC to having an equivalent route in TSW would be fantastic.
    If set in 2022 then both the 315/321 and 345/720 can feature in the same timetable with layers for the 710 :)
     
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  14. Indege

    Indege Well-Known Member

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    Yum
     
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  15. Folup1372#8582

    Folup1372#8582 Well-Known Member

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    Yes
     
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  16. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    I would love the various train models. I always wished that one day the routes from Train Simulator would feature in TSW4 but that is highly unlikely. I think that the graphics appear to better in Train Sim world than the graphics I have seen on videos of TSC. I would especially love the section on the GEML between Shenfield and Liverpool Street the most
     
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  17. AirbourneAlex

    AirbourneAlex Well-Known Member

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    Partly the reason for choosing Southend over ending at Colchester or Ipswich is because that section of line doesn't feature in TSC, so for those of us who play both sims, we would still have somewhere completely new to explore.
     
  18. finlayl122528

    finlayl122528 Well-Known Member

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    I would not like the Wickford route but I would like the London Liverpool Street to Southend Victoria route
     
  19. Migsithepigsi

    Migsithepigsi Well-Known Member

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    Wait, if you think about it, if you own sehs + upcoming GOBLIN you can technically do
    Wanstead Park - Purfleet
     

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