Route Southern Railway London Bridge - Beckenham Junction/ Caterham /tattenham Corner Via Nwd & Cyp

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  1. Eee

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    INTRODUCTION

    Today I'll be suggesting Southern railway [owned by Govia Thameslink Railway] this route would be around 27 miles long [43 km] with 35 stations in total.


    THE ROUTE

    -The route has 27 miles of track
    -The route has 35 stations in total
    -The route uses 759 Volts DC

    -The route runs from London Bridge/ Beckenham Junction (in South) London- Tattenham Corner/ Caterham ( in Surrey)



    STATIONS
    (stations to Beckenham Junction)

    -London Bridge
    -South Bermondsey
    -Queens Road Peckham
    -Peckham Rye
    -East Dulwich
    -North Dulwich
    -Tulse Hill
    -West Norwood
    -Gipsy Hill
    -Crystal Palace
    -BirkBeck
    - Beckenham Junction

    (Stations continue from LGB via NWD)
    -New Cross Gate
    - Brockley
    -Honor Oak Park
    -Forest Hill
    -Sydenham
    -Money West
    -Anerley
    -Norwood Junction
    -East Croydon
    -South Croydon
    -Purley Oaks
    -Purley
    -Reedham
    -Coulsdon Town
    -Woodmansterne
    -Chipstead
    -Kingswood
    -Tadworth
    -Tattenham Corner
    -Kenley
    -Whyteleafe
    -Whyteleafe South
    -Catertham




    ROLLING STOCK


    377/1, 377/2, 377/3,377/4,377/6 & 7
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    The class 377 manufactured by Bombardier Transportation at Derby Litchurch Lane Works as part of the Electrostar family from 2001 - 2014 211 of these three,four and five car units were built with 64 377/1s, 15 377/2s, 28 377/3s, 75 377/4s, 23 377/5s, 26 377/6s and 8 377/7s this train has a maximum operating speed of 100 mph (161 km/h) mph [121 km/h] the safety systems used are TPWS/AWS.



    DIFFERENCE'S BETWEEN THE VARIANTS

    -377/101 - 377/119 has 2+2 seating & 377/120 - 377/475 (excluding 377/3s) have 2+3 seating in the middle of each coach and 2+2 seating at the end of every coach. 377/101 - 377/139 have small headlight clusters and 377/140 - 377/164 have the headlights we are more familiar with in TSW (I believe the /1s and 3s have slightly different cabs and class 1,4,6 and 7 both have track lights ) this train has four coaches and only runs using 750 Volts DC


    -377/2 have 2+2 at the end of every coach but has 3+2 seating in the middle and has no track light unlike the /1,/4/6/7 this train is dual voltage and has four coaches


    -377/3 this train has 2+2 seating like 377/101 - 377/119 and also has small headlight clusters this train doesn't have a track light and is only three coaches long using 750 volts DC only


    -377/4 has 2+3 seating in the middle of each coach and 2+2 seating at the end of every coach this train has a track light and is forked of four coaches using 750 volts DC only


    -377/7 has five coaches and 2+2 seating in every coach and also has a track light these trains have the southern logo on every coach and green stanchions but all the refurbished 377s have yellow this train is also dual voltage

    POTENTIAL ROLLING STOCK

    700/1
    Class_700_approaching_Bedford.jpg
    Thameslink_Class_700.jpg
    This train would run from Purley to London Bridge)
    The class 700/1 manufactured by Siemens Mobility from 2014 - 2018 115 units were built with 60 /0s and 55 /1s the maximum speed of this train is 100 mph (160 km/h) and the safety systems used are TPWS/AWS ATO and ETCS.



    POTENTIAL DLC

    455
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    (These trains aren't used by southern but I thought it be nice to add so it's not just electrostars)

    The class 455 manufactured by British Rail Engineering Limited as part of the BR Second Generation family built at Holgate Road carriage works from 1982-1985 one hundred and thirty seven four car trains were built with eighty two remaining the capacity on this train is 244 seats and have a maximum speed of 75 mph (121 km/h and the safety systems used are TPWS/AWS.


    SERVICES

    London Bridge - Beckenham Junction via Crystal palace duration: 41 minutes

    London Bridge - Tattenham Corner duration: 1 hour and 5 minutes

    London Bridge - Caterham duration: 54 minutes

    London Bridge - East Croydon (Tulse Hill) via Norbury duration: 20 minutes

    Epsom (Norwood Junction) - London Bridge duration: 11 minutes

    London Victoria (West Norwood) - London Bridge via Crystal palace duration: 30 minutes


    London Bridge - West Croydon (Norwood Junction) duration: 28 minutes

    London Bridge - Streatham Hill (West Norwood duration: 28 minutes



    INTERIOR FEATURES

    INTERIOR PIS DISPLAY

    It would be nice if the pis in the interior of the train could have different announcements for example.

    "Welcome aboard the Southern service to ___ calling at ______ and__"

    "The next station is __. Please keep your bags and personal belongings with you at all times"
    "Would customers please note you can only alight from the front __ coaches as this station has a short platform .please ensure you are traveling in the correct part of the train "


    "We are now approaching __"

    "This is coach __ of _"


    "This is __ this train is the southern service to _ calling at _______ and __"

    "This is __ This train is the southern Service to __ and __ this train calls at _______ and __ where the train will divide coaches _ to _ will continue to __ coaches _ to _ will terminate at __ please ensure you are traveling in the correct part of the train"


    The PIS on the sides of the train would have the scrolling destination and also show what coach it is out of


    Also maybe a more accurate destination display could be used
    on the front of the train
    If this route were to come there would be Information displays in the train much like the ones on the 710 and hopefully a working TMS


    LIVERIES


    -377/1 NHS livery


    AI

    -AI 700/0
    -AI 377
    -AI 387
    -AI 375
    -AI 465

    CONCLUSION

    Id really like route I was a bit hesitant to post this as not many people would like Electrostars but thanks for reading my suggestions .
     
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