Made a Reddit post about this at some earlier point, but thought I could share it here aswell. "One more and hereby the biggest possible hint is the fact that on the updated route map for Frankfurt-Wiesbaden, apart from the airport station, they also sketched in the beginning stretch of the highspeed line that points in Cologne's direction. It does not exactly serve anything important to this route, and there are not any other loose tracks pointing into the void on this route map apart from that piece, which must mean something." Might just be hopium, but who knows?
I like a bit of "hopium" from time to time, however, as I am not really in need for it in terms of this route (KRM), I may have a more unbiased view on this to offer I have noticed this little "unused" extension in the graphical representatation as well, however, my interpretation was that it is somehow relevant for S Bahn Ffm as a whole, as it crosses one of the used lines on this DLC. I am assuming that you will see AI traffic on there... Sorry, hope I have not shattered any dreams As long as there is no denial, there is hope for all of our dreams...
The chances of DTG extending or merging this route with anything else are less than my wife giving me a… Ferrari on my birthday.
As a console gamer, I lost all interest in this route after hearing about the reduced timetable. If they don't fix it, I don't want to hear any more about it, it really hurts me because I was looking forward to it and I won't forgive DTG for that. Having said that, which has nothing to do with the thread and is just the result of my frustration, I don't think that this piece of map is significant for future expansion, it just seems to me to be a faithful representation of those railways for AI traffic as is done on most routes.
First of all i dont think the slightly extended part is a hint for said route, but only to show the existence of the bridge crossing the S1 line. I rather think the real hint in this route is the long distance station being included in the first place. Even though DTG stated it as a response to community feedback, i am questioning this because DTG isnt known for lissening to the community, especially not if its about a 12 km addition with such a major station like Frankfurt Flughafen long distance. Not to mention the SFS Rhein Main being one of the most requested german routes while also being cappable of including a similar level requested train like the Br 407/408 or the 412. Now that we have both ends in the game i dont see any reason why they would leave this one out. Route lenght isnt a major problem as KWG has shown and a problem with a TT for Gen 9 has also a rather low chance as the Sbahn AI in FFM and Köln does not follow the route long enough to be the cause. Only thing is this route probably wont be a thing within this year as i just dont think they put another 3 stop highspeed route in the core game bundle and the next dlc probably releases the same time MKN did this year. At last i think they will probably put a 2 or 3 route buffer before releasing another Frankfurt route.
I don't think map is any giveaway cause as already mentioned, I think it's just to show people the line passes over the S1 line. However, Frankfurt Flughafen is a lot of work for an addition cause of feedback. While I've never done any modelling so can't say how quickly they could've modelled it, I'd expect it'd take a while to do given how much detail has gone into it. So maybe that is a sign that there is work on Koln - Frankfurt high speed. Or maybe it is hopium, who knows. What I do know though is it's a route I'd very much like in the game. I know Kassel - Wurzburg is often deemed as a boring route, but I do enjoy it if I just want a pretty chill run to drive. And this route to me has always seemed more interesting. iirc, there's 6 stations, and for the first 25 or so km from Koln, there's even S-Bahn services that would likely be included as driveable services too for some variety. It would also be a great opportunity to get another ICE in too, my preference would be the 3neo, but the ICE 4 would definitely be an option too. And also, I think a really big reason it'd be nice to have would be for route hopping. It'd be really fun being able to go from Aachen all the way to say Wurzburg without ever having to go to the menu to do it. If Koln - Frankfurt HS ever happens, it's got my seal of approval at least.
on main spessart bahn after leaving gemunden you actually go underneath the tall highspeed bridge which is part of the wurzburg hannover highspeed line and dtg actually made the kassel wurzburg highspeed line in tsw 3 after a while of tsw 2020 being out so it can be a posibility that dtg could eventually make sfs koln frankfurt
i dont think you can take a timespan of around 4 years to link them to each other. If SFS Rhein Main releases in 4 years i wont say it was teased with FSN. Its like saying Hamburg Lübeck is teasing the route Hamburg to Kiel once its announced. I get what you want to say tho...
DTG nearly always includes crossing and merging lines, even though they may just run a few hundred meters into a portal. They can't very well not put them in. I have no particular appetite for the SKF, which would basically be a repeat of Kassel-Wurzburg: tunnels and bridges without end with nothing to do but acknowledge Sifa.
I like that idea. Till now we have only 1 impressive german highspeed route in TSW, Kassel Würzburg. Schnellfahrstrecke Frankfurt Köln would be the second long distance highspeed route for Germany.
and that's why it's better: across the same length of Kassel-Würzburg, is has over double the amount of inbetween stops (biggest distance between two stops being about 60km) and at 300 km/h you also go through a bit faster. sure, it might still be a tad boring, but surely less than Kassel-Würzburg which really is boring.
In all fairness the route offers more… it ends at hopping points (on both sides), it has (if running Hbf-Hbf) up to 5 stops in between the termini and on both ends you can include a bit of regional train services (granted: You wouldn’t buy this solely for doing RE services from Köln Hbf to the airport)
Well, it serves the AI 403 and 406 coming into Frankfurt Flughafen Fernbahnhof. Cologne-Frankfurt would probably be one of the routes which are most prominent in Germany. At the same time, it is a rather nondescript blast through a low mountain range with not much except for pastures and cows. The part between Cologne and Siegburg as well as the approach into Frankfurt Flughafen and Wiesbaden are an exception.
The main attraction of this route would be the rollercoaster-experience. The gradients are nuts. And the first section from Koln Hbf to Siegburg is pretty interesting.
SFS Köln - Frankfurt I'd rather see to Hbf instead of ending at Flughafen Fernbf. i don't want to run out of my train to the route hop point and run back to my non existing train because timetables aren't the same, transfer times are too short for those shenanigans and come on who enjoys rushing for that even if you are on time. any delay and you would definetely not make that at all. Route hopping is an interesting concept but not great in practice.
Yeah, definitely would want to see it from end to end, would be silly to do anything but end to end imo. Even better if they include the high speed branch to Weisbaden Hbf too, as long as it plays a significant part in the timetable at least, but I don't know how many ICEs would take that branch irl.
Ah ok, I must've missed that bit as I've been watching it, but in that case, it doesn't sound like there's much use including it then which is a shame.
Might as well not bother going to Frankfurt if dovetail can’t make it work on consoles. Absolute disaster of a game
Technically the end of the SFS Köln-Rhein/Main is just behind the Fernbahnhof. But I agree, the representation of this line should run all the way to FFM Hbf
I have no plans to go anywhere near Frankfurt again until we can meet expectations on it. Also, that's a huge route if I recall, something like 120km or 120 miles? Matt.
