Speed Warning Boards Missing?

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by dangerousdave, Oct 29, 2021.

  1. Is it just me or is there lots of these speed warning boards missing? I mean the yellow triangle boards. I find myself cruising along and before I know it the speed limit changes. I thought I wasn't paying attention at first but looking back on my videos there's no warnings. And it's not just on one route either.
     
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    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    German or UK routes? In Britain, "Morpeth boards" are usually only placed where there is a significant speed reduction, not every time the limit drops 10 mph.
     
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    If you mean Morpeth boards (UK), they are not usually placed before every speed reduction, usually only major reductions, or in the case of older routes nonexistent.

    If you mean Lf 1 boards (Germany), they should be present before every speed reduction.

    Cheers
     
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  4. Sorry forgot to mention uk. There's some places on newer routes where it goes from 70 to 45 with no aws warning or Morpeth boards. It's rather annoying. Another thing is if you go 70.1mph in a 70 zone this is classed as speeding? So you I try to keep it slightly under the limit and I end up running late. I'm no train driver but I would imagine in the real world keeping a train bang on 70mph for the entire journey up and down gradients is impossible?
     
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    It is the way it is in real life. If it is too cryptic for you, try turning on the HUD element that display upcoming speed limits.
    The game should only consider it to be speeding once you are going a whole integer above your max permitted speed. For example, if the speed limit is 70mph, then you are allowed to go 70.999...mph. Once you hit 71mph, it will be considered speeding.

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    British railroading relies heavily on the driver memorizing the route. IRL you would never be permitted to "sign" a route until you had ridden it as a secondman many, many times. It's not like Germany, where if you're careful and know your PZB rules, you can (in theory) drive a new route cold.
     
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    Not true, the gauge may not turn yellow but if your speed is above the line speed marker, even if the integer still shows the speed limit it registers as an overspeed and you are only awarded 15AP for that section instead of 30.

    You should be keeping below the limit (3-5 mph) to give yourself time to respond to gradient changes.
     
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    I tested this at speed limits under 10 mph (where the speedo reads in tenths), and the break point is .5 over the posted limit. But you're right, the speedo doesn't turn yellow until the next whole integer, which is misleading.
     
  9. I think driving with the hud makes route learning take forever. Also what size screen is required to be able to view what a driver would in the cab? For example if I remove the hud completely it's hard to know what step your brakes and throttle are in as you can't see them! I'm currently using a 43 inch 4k display but can't seem to change the drivers field of view. And yes I've noticed the speed indicator does not turn yellow even though you are speeding as for as the points awarding is concerned.
     
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    Don't often get caught on UK routes, but on German routes, missing speed boards occasionally grab me when in Pzb.
     
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    Generally it's good practice to stay a bit below the speed limit, or if you happen to go 70.5 instead of 70 (which can happen), who cares what the game thinks... you will get a gold medal anyway.

    In case of Germany the old route manuals (for example the MSB one) recommend to stay 5 km/h below speed limit to allow for any inaccuracy in speed measuring equipment (both train and track side). For the UK I generally tend to maintain exactly the speed limit or stay 1-3mph below, that should solve the majority of your issues. Given the fact a lot of trains have notched power settings it's impossible to maintain the speed limit exactly (and moving the controller up and down constantly is not a good practise), so generally on the longer stretches I tend to let the speed climb to exactly speed limit, reduce 1 notch of power when going 3/5mph below the limit, rinse and repeat, worst case scenario the amount you stay above the speed limit is very limited.
     
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