Springfield Line Will Not Open In Quickdrive

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  1. Daniel Gibbs

    Daniel Gibbs Active Member

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    As many of us know, ever since this new "core update" came out, a lot of things have gotten corrupted. However, when it comes to the New Haven's Springfield Line, I actually can't even get into it in QuickDrive at all. Every time I try to go in-game in QuickDrive, the game freezes just after the loading screen goes black. Anyone else having this issue with this particular route or any other routes?
     
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  2. torfmeister

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    Well, not a lot, but still some issues.

    I can confirm your report, QD freezes (black screen) before the scenario gets created.

    Also, when playing Early Morning Freight, the scenario freezes completely (audio keeps playing) shortly after continuing north from Windsor Locks stop.

    Gotta check on RailworksAmerica.com, where the developers of Springfield Line are active, if it's been noticed already - maybe there's a hotfix or workaround.

    All I know is there's another update in the works from DTG.

    Edit: Just checked, Michael Stephan (GreatNortherner) already experienced issues himself - workaround at the moment seems to be running the 32-bit version.
     
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  3. torfmeister

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    If I look back, as beautiful and great this route is, it's having compatibility issues since 2019.

    - first release version (32 bit) worked fine.
    - when 64bit was introduced in TS2019, it did not work on 64bit
    - for a period of time you had to download a 64bit scenery patch from one of the devs' websites
    - that patch was eventually released to Steam later
    - now the route was playable in 64bit, but the editor would behave weird (crashes, black scenery and FPS drops) - so you had to edit in 32bit and play in 32/64bit (the manual even points that out)
    - with the latest core update, the route's troubles surface again. I'm not sure this has been reported to DTG (as they now have fixed compatibility with AP, Smokebox, HIS, VirtualRailroads - all that had been reported before by community and developers - seems VNHRR did not report the issues to DTG)

    So, to avoid all this play this route in 32bit. (This is the only route I need the 32bit exe for :) .) Maybe a patch from VNHRR will arrive, but I doubt that.
     
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  4. Daniel Gibbs

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    It gets worse. I can't even create a new consist in the Consist Editor. It keeps crashing the game when it reaches 88%. Regardless of whether I'm about to edit a consist or create a new one from scratch. I've tried deleting the cache and a couple of other things, but nothing worked. It constantly crashes at 88%.
     
  5. torfmeister

    torfmeister Guest

    This is, and always has been, due to corrupt assets, reskins - which are extremely difficult to locate if you're having a decent asset collection. Installing only DTG content on a separate installation, the Consist Editor works fine.

    To find the bad assets, use the 50/50 method. (Move half of your asset subfolders to a backup location, check Consist Editor, if OK swap assets and remove the next half of the remaining assets and so on.)
    Choose a temporary folder on the same drive and partition, (do not use Copy but Move) and it'll be pretty quickly done as data does not get physically moved, only its "address")

    But there's good workarounds like TSTools. It's also possible to edit your own PreLoad consists using a text editor which are then available in QD.

    Concerning the core update, I now have only two routes left which are incompatible: Springfield Line (though works in 32bit), and AHS Ashford - Lille rolling stock (unfortunately its developer has not replied to TrainSim-Steve's offer to assist in fixing the scripts). I play them on a small v72.3b installation.

    So I can say that 99% of content works - and the "phase 1" core update was needed for future development of TSC.

    Edit: Just as I write this, starting up "Geeps and Grain" on Montana HiLine (also from VNHRR (!)) freezes. :( (RailWorks64.exe v74.8a)

    In fact, Montana HiLine does not work at all.
     
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  6. OldAlaskaGuy

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    The last update affects VNHRR, Montana Hi-Line as well as Stephens Pass. It has to do with the BNSF signaling. A fix is in the works.
     
  7. Daniel Gibbs

    Daniel Gibbs Active Member

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    Well, imagine that!
     
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    Steven pass?
     
  9. OldAlaskaGuy

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    Yes. Run in 32 bit for now.
     
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    Any update on a fix?
     
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  12. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Does this route still have problems? Was considering for one more US route purchase before the sale ends as it looks quite nice and I'm a fan of anything in the so called halycon days of the 1950's.
     
  13. OldAlaskaGuy

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    It has been working since I applied the patch to run in 64 bit.Never had an issue in 32 bit.
     
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  14. Spikee1975

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    The last update was six months ago. Some scenarios were changed and a signal script.

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  15. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Thanks rwaday and Spikee1975 . Looks like that will be my final purchase for the sale then, which in total equates to 7 or 8 items for TSC and nothing for TSW. Well I doubt they will be paying much attention but sending a personal message about the state of TSW and what many of us want to see in it - longer routes, interesting and more varied routes and a commitment to further development of steam and vintage diesel traction.
     
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  16. Spikee1975

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    Daniel Gibbs
    QuickDrive is not only depending on the base DLC, as it randomly spawns in other DLC's stock based on parameters.

    Try to run a QD with "Player loco" only. It is likely some other corrupt asset can bust a QD. If that works, it's not the route to blame.

    749006 We had that on GEML some time ago I think? Some missing repaint it was.
     

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