Hi everyone, my suggestion for TSW4 is to add the Stadler Euro 9000 (also known as Euro Dual). The Stadler Euro 9000 is a six-axle dual-mode locomotive which can run on electrified line in 15 kV AC and 25 kV AC as well as 1.5 kV DC and 3 kV DC. It can also run on non electrified lines. The Euro 9000 have a top speed of 160 km/h (100 mph), a traction power of up to 9 MW and a hauling capacity of 500 kN up to 65 km/h (40 mph). This locomotive can be used on both freight and passenger traffic (even if it’s mainly used for freight). This machine can run on Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, Belgium and in the Netherlands. Some version can also run in France and Spain, in Turkey, in Norway,... This locomotive is used by DB, Green Cargo, Captrain, ELP, HHPI, Rail Force One,... The Euro 9000 is equipped with several safety systems such as the ETCS (European Train Control System) (not sure if it’s level 1 or 2), PZB and all the systems for Belgium,… The Euro 9000 can be a great addition to TSW3 especially on Schnellfahrstrecke Kassel-Würzburg, it can be also nice on a new timetable for Hauptstrecke Hamburg-Lübeck or for Nahverkehr Dresden-Riesa (it can replace the DB BR 363 for shunting operations). To achieve its full potential, it would be necessary to create a line equipped with ETCS. Here are some links and photos about the Stadler Euro 9000 : https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadler_Eurodual https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadler_Euro_Dual https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadler_Euro_Dual https://www.stadlerrail.com/en/products/detail-all/euro9000/474/ Thanks for reading my suggestion and hope you like it.
Excellent idea and it will fit on my Belgian suggestions basically the entire Brussels to Köln Hbf via Aachen and Lüttich (Liège Dutch speaking part of Belgium Luik). Basically one of the scenarios it can happen it's that the electrical system has broken down and you must continue to the final destination on diesel power think of it as RRO Technical failure where you must use the Red Button to use a Pantograph. In the case of this locomotive you are forced to turn on the diesel engine due to Pantograph failure
I love the proposed scenario because it is realistic and it allows to exploit all the capabilities of the locomotive. Moreover it would make a new line equipped with ETCS in a country which is unfortunately not yet present in TSW3. Another variant of this scenario would be the rescue of an ICE or a Thalys blocked on the track due to a power cut. In conclusion, I think that this locomotive has all its chances to become the future of locomotives for German lines because it brings new things with the change of voltage and the change of mode.
You are correct and why not introduce this on a Belgian Route that joins with Schnellfahrstrecke Köln Aachen L36 & L37 Brussels to the German border Aachen. Another possibility is Duisburg/Bochum Hbf Oberhausen Emmerich am Rhein Grenze Zevenaar Arnhem Utrecht the Hollandstrecke. Remember when you are entering HRR from HDU Euro 9000 Lokomotive must follow the S3 Hattingen Mitte Oberhausen Hbf from Oberhausen Hbf Mülheim an der Ruhr Styrum junction where it will then use the fast tracks instead of staying on the S-Bahn tracks.
However, for an ICE or Thalys rescue scenario, it would be necessary to create an adapter for the automatic coupler because on the Euro 9000 it is a hook. This adapter could also be used on the BR 182, BR 185, BR 187, class 66,... We could also tow all the machines equipped with an automatic coupler type 10 (TGV Duplex, BR 422, BR 425, BR 442,...). Automatic coupler Type 10 from Dellner : Adapter for automatic coupler from Dellner :
The Stadler Euro 9000 can also be good for a line like the Niddertalbahn because it's often used to go on non electrified single track lines (like on the third video).
There's a project to make freight trains use them too videos are Train TV Berlin Deutsch This requires Sggmrss Roos-T Zacns Es50 to have warning Triangles for Automatic couplers. Remember to raise the Dellner Couplers for goods wagons that are not equipped with the Dellner couplers like the Laaers 560 Grain wagons
It might be interesting to add the cars equipped with the DAC coupler but the problem is that they are still in test and only a very small number of cars are equipped with this coupler. Moreover, no Euro 9000 operator has equipped their fleet with this coupler (either the DAC or the hybrid DAC). However, it is interesting to keep this idea but in a more distant future when a large part of the wagon and locomotive fleet will be equipped.
Also a very modern proposal! I saw the long beast driving through my hometown recently. It was the F=ma livery. I think it was only recently released for the TSC and is not yet as widespread as a Siemens Vectron. But because it has dual mode, it can theoretically drive on all TSW routes. I've read that the locomotives should even be approved as Class99 for the UK and 30 pieces for GB Railfreight should be on the road from 2025. So then DTG has a great new project at the start to equip TSW with new vehicles for the future.
It is not an unattracitive specimen, look forward to seeing a version in the UK. Make a change from seeing the ugly class 66 everywhere. It would be good to have this in the sim, I know there are quite a few modern German loco's but we haven't had a new modern one for quite a while.
I don't think that the Class66 is that ugly. The front is just not as aerodynamically stylish as with an HST, but you don't have to drive it at high speeds either. While the Stadler Eurodual or Class99 can reach speeds of up to 160 km/h or 100 mph. It's also possible that railway companies have different tastes today than they did back then and nowadays prefer more round than square shapes. As the saying goes: the eye eats with you. Which applies to both: lunch and trains!
Well I just think the older BR classes were more aesthetically pleasing. But yes we all have different tastes and beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Since you were talking about the class 66, the Euro 9000 is one of the few modern European locomotives to have six axles, the vast majority of modern locomotives produced in Europe have only four axles. So it could be a good thing to have a DLC with the Euro 9000 because in Germany it is supposed to replace the Br 155 (I think).
The main reason for 6 axles instead of 4 axles is certainly to bring more total weight onto the track. This means there is also more starting traction, since there is more friction mass, which is an advantage for heavy freight trains. The engine power, whether diesel or electric, can be the same as with 4 axles, but the higher total weight always benefits the starting traction. On the other hand, the advantage of 4 axles is faster acceleration, which is why only 4 axles are used in fast IC or regional traffic.
This would be an amazing workhorse for pretty much any route whether electrified or not, I'd buy it day 1.
This locomotive can be used on all German routes (except on Bahnstrecke Bremen-Oldenburg, Linke Rheinstrecke and Niddertalbahn for reasons of realism due to the epochs of these routes), it can also be used on S-Bahn Zentralschweiz because the euro 9000 is equiped with ETCS.
Trenitalia has just ordered 50 Stadler EuroLight (4-axle version of the Euro 9000) for rescue missions and push-pull operations. It will be able to run on 3 kV DC electrified lines. It will also be able to run on non-electrified lines. This locomotive will be able to run up to 160 km/h and will be equipped with ETCS, SCMT and SCC. If you want more information, look at the links. https://www.stadlerrail.com/en/medi...-supply-of-up-to-50-bi-mode-locomotives/1288/ https://www.railvolution.net/news/t...otives-of-stadler-s-new-eurolight-dual-family
Saw it and for the Italian locomotive, it's 1.45m Copper Strip Italian 3kv dc although it can be modified to run on LZN 15kv 16.7hz due to Switzerland also using a 1.45m strip Copper/Carbon strip
Yes, yes and yes! I would love to see this one in TSW! Great oppunity to make a dual mode feature, I think the community would love this! Loco itself looks imo amazing too, we could make lot of liveries for her too!
The Euro 9000 stadler would be great in TSW4, as it would bring new mechanics with mode change and voltage change (like on the LGV Méditerrannée). This locomotive could also introduce other countries like Italy, Belgium,... and therefore new safety systems like ETCS in Italy and Belgium,... STMC in Italy, in addition to the PZB already used on German lines.
If my information are correct, the Euro 9000 is not equipped with LZB but with PZB, SIFA, ETCS, STMC and ATB (but I'm not sure if all Euro 9000s are equipped with STMC and ATB or if it's the operator who requests their installation). In any case, PZB, SIFA and ETCS are standard on the locomotive.
It would be so cool to have a modern European locomotive pack with the Stadler Euro 9000, the Siemens Vectron (MS version) and the Vossloh DE 18.
Agree, especially DE18 is an amazing one to do shunting and short freight services! Vectron ofcourse icon of the modern rail ways! Lot of liveries can be made for it too!
absolutely correct in Luxembourg CFL DE18 300 which makes it suited for Ligne Ferroviaire Luxembourg Trêves (Trier) Koblenz Bingen Mainz Frankfurt am Main Hbf . On the luxembourgish side Frankfurt Central Station it's written as Francfort sur le Main Gare Centrale. Website is written in the luxembourgish language DE 18 in France is the SNCF BB79000
On this video, we can see that the Euro 9000 can be equipped with PZB/SIFA, ETCS, STMC and ATB on the same locomotive.
I saw recently a stadler EuroDual on a video about Innotrans 2022 equipped with a Dellner Hybrid DAC (here is the link of the video : (5:31))
Niddertalbahn is set in the 1990s, long before the Stadler Euro first entered service (2012). Would be a cool train to see though.
I'm not sure if the Euro9000 run on the Maintalbahn currently but it's not inrealistic because it is increasingly used for freight services in Germany and other European countries on electrified and non-electrified lines. In addition, DB leases some of them to European Loc Pool (ELP).
The Stadler Euro 9000 can be a great addition for the S-Bahn Vorarlberg in complement of the vectron.
For all German speakers, I highly recommend watching the DVD "EuroDual, Die neuen Lokomotiven der Baureihe 159" by Eisenbahn Kurier.
The locomotive build for ROG is the EuroLight, the 4-axles version of the EuroDual. Here is an other version of the EuroLight for Adif (Spanish rail network operator)
If one day DTG makes the Euro 9000, I really hope that they will implement all the safety systems present in this locomotive (SIFA, PZB, ATB, ETCS, SCMT) so that it is compatible with all present and future lines equipped with the systems mentioned.
Let's also hope that if DTG ever makes the Euro 9000, we'll be able to access the engine room, because that's the thing that disappointed me most about the vectron, that we couldn't access the engine room !!!!
If DTG ever does Euro 9000/EuroDual, it would be great if they could get the Captrain license. That would give us a new rail operator. Alternatively, they could do it in the "new" DB livery.
The Stadler Euro 9000 is officially licensed for use in Belgium and the Netherlands. The only missing authorization is that for Italy, which should be approved in 2024. (Info from Railcolor news)
Today, Railcolor news announced the arrival of the 5th Stadler EuroDual locomotive for Captrain Deutschland. This locomotive will be increasingly visible in many European countries, so it would be great if DTG could integrate it into TSW4, either with DB or with another operator (Captrain, for example, if they obtain the rights).
