Train Sim World 3 Staten Island Railway: St. George-tottenville

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  1. seb77

    seb77 New Member

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    The Staten Island Railway is a 14-mile (22.5 km) rapid transit line that serves the New York City borough of Staten Island. It consists of 21 stations, embankment, elevated, and open-cut sections, and one tunnel near the Northern Terminus of St. George. The route utilizes St. Louis Car Co. R44s that were built-in 1973. The route and trains utilize ATC and Cab Signalling systems with signals at the interlockings. Line speeds range between 10 MPH (16 KPH) to 45 MPH (72 KPH). The system frequency is a train every 15 minutes during rush hour and every 30 minutes during regular hours. During Rush hours some trains run Express in peak direction between St. George and Great Kills, then makes all stops to Tottenville. During Rush hours local trains run between St. George and Great Kills. Average journey time is around 50 minutes from St. George to Tottenville. There is only one railyard at Clifton, but there are many siding along the route such as Tottenville which has 2 tracks, and there are also multiple tracks and platforms at St. George for storage.

    Video of Staten Island Railway action:

    Pictures of Trains and stations below.

    R44:
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    R44 Interior:
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    Clifton Yard:
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    Stations:

    St George Terminal (TERMINUS):
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    Tompkinsville:
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    Stapleton:
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    Clifton:
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    Grasmere:
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    Old Town:
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    Dongan Hills:

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    Grant City:
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    New Dorp:

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    Bay Terrace:
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    Great Kills (Terminus for Local Trains to/from St. George Terminal [Only during Rush Hours]):
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    Eltingville:
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    Annadale:

    Huguenot:

    Prince's Bay

    Pleasant Plains:
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    Richmond Valley:
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    Arthur Kill:
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    Tottenville: (TERMINUS)
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    Please gather some support for this, as this route has potential, it has a decent amount of stations, distance, and a very interesting and antique rolling stock.
     
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  2. R3DWolf91

    R3DWolf91 Well-Known Member

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    I think this would be a great way to introduce players to the New York City subway system, despite this not actually being a part of it and being completely isolated from the rest of the national network. For our friends from the UK this route is very similar to the Isle of Wight railway in distance, isolation, use of subway equipment, and frequent ferry connections.

    The main difference here would be that unlike the Island Line that sees more seasonal and holiday traffic, the SIRT is truly a commuter line that gets people daily from the island to the ferries and eventually on to their destinations in Manhattan and beyond. Fun fact, while the train has a fare to ride, the Staten Island Ferry is 100% free to ride between Manhattan and Staten Island. It's a great free way to get closer views of the Statue of Liberty and lower Manhattan skyline. If I remember correctly it may also count as a free a transfer between the SIRT and trains at South Ferry and Bowling Green (I could be mistaken).

    Throw in a BL20G for work train service and I'm sold on this DLC!
     
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  3. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    This could be quite fun, providing DTG solve the problem of subsequent runs not restoring properly on resuming a save, thus effecively preventing the chaining of several trips together in a driver's shift.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    For DLC, the R211, would be neat, but the R44 seems fine for now. Its still a solid train. As for an extension, it would be pointless. The point of the game is for realism, not customization. That's pretty much what you have TSC for.
     
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  6. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Okay then and for DTG getting R211S references it should be identical to the R211A 4060-4069 Pitkin Yard A train not 4040-4049 which is R211T. The way this is going to work inside the training centre Metro-North section is used for R44 & R211S. While the Freight track is for BL20GH R156 loco subway
     
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    Yeah but the R211S probably won't go into service by this year. It would be pointless to make it part of the route. Remember the R211S has to be for SIR, and SIR have different systems than NYCT such as signalling. So it's not just a copy paste. Theres specifics that go into it. It's better and more practical to make the route with something that has been familiar to all for the past 50+ years.
     
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  8. Lords_75

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    Bro what are you trying to say, this is illegible
     
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  9. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    If you want me to explain it to you it's the Rolling Stock as downloadable content and a freight locomotive used for work trains
     
  10. trainsimplayer

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    Let me translate:
    "[Irrelevant details, loosely related to the suggestion]"
     
  11. seb77

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    He meant the grammar. Anyways, DLC would be pointless for this route. It's set in present day, or the day it was suggested which was April 27, 2023. As of that time only R44s run in passenger service. And work trains would also be pointless. It wouldn't be used for really anything. Maybe it could function as AI, that's really about it.
     
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    R3DWolf91 Well-Known Member

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    If I'm gonna pay $40 for a route, I'd like a BL20 thrown in for a little variety. Some of us enjoy work trains and rescue moves, so I think calling it pointless is a little harsh.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    You are correct that's what I was originally explaining on my comment BL20GH DLC locomotive with R44. Version 2 R211S with BL20GH alongside the base game R44
     
  14. jack travers

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    Staten Island isn’t a real place.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    It is a real place it's where the motorways like 278 crosses into Brooklyn via the Verazzano bridge which usually has lorries that have R44SI R211S these are 100 series since the Staten Island Railroad yard in Clifton doesn't have access to the main yard in Coney Island via rail. From NEC Trenton New Brunswick New York you use 78 to 440.
    R211S 103 & 104
     
  16. seb77

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    Ain't no way bro is being serious
     

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