Steam Achievements Leaks New Route

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Matthew Wilson, Mar 8, 2021.

  1. Matthew Wilson

    Matthew Wilson Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2017
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    239
    So, it seems that via an update to the Steam Achievements list for TS20XX we know the next route will be the Birmingham Cross City line.

    This is my home route so I'm very excited for it. Screenshot_20210308_225628.jpg
     
    • Like Like x 4
  2. VictorHugoVS

    VictorHugoVS Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2020
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    74
    I loved it, I was expecting a route related to WCML South like Birmingham International to Shrewsbury, but this is good too. Can't wait for drive this route with 323.
     
  3. Matthew Wilson

    Matthew Wilson Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2017
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    239
    Me too, I worked on the route for 11 years as a guard and I live at the southern end, so I can't wait.
     
  4. Cameron's Gaming

    Cameron's Gaming Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    2,754
    For the avoidance of doubt, one of the achievements not pictured is called "XC: West Midlands Expert". I'm not aware of anywhere else in the West Midlands that has a cross-city line, nor am I aware of any other country that has a "West Midlands". I'm personally not willing to speculate further.
     
  5. tommydee

    tommydee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2020
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    268
    "XC Peaceful City" That could be a reference to Coventry, city of peace and reconciliation.

    In real life the Cross City line links with WCML South and WCML Trent Valley. Now that would be good to see in TS.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  6. AirbourneAlex

    AirbourneAlex Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2020
    Messages:
    492
    Likes Received:
    465
    Hasn't there been several attempts to build the Cross City line? DPSimulation and Extravis Games have tried. Maybe one of these making it to TS2021? Extravis Games was making the Class 323 too. I believe DTG couldn't get the West Midlands Railway license for WCML South so this could be branded in London Midland colours instead, if this route really is in production. I'd await official confirmation first.
     
  7. theorganist

    theorganist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2018
    Messages:
    2,872
    Likes Received:
    5,149
    I will be very interested in this when released, it is one I have been expecting since the days of Rail Simulator. I remember years ago having the MSTS version.
     
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2021
    • Like Like x 1
  8. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2018
    Messages:
    2,558
    Likes Received:
    1,082
    There's already a 3rd party Birmingham XC route.
     
  9. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    6,586
    Likes Received:
    6,018
    Who knows it could actually BE this route repackaged. Look at what happened with suburban Glasgow
     
  10. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2018
    Messages:
    2,558
    Likes Received:
    1,082
    True... it might be.
     
  11. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    5,589
    Likes Received:
    1,623
    Which one is that?
     
  12. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    6,586
    Likes Received:
    6,018
    • Like Like x 1
  13. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    5,589
    Likes Received:
    1,623
    Thanks
     
  14. Cameron's Gaming

    Cameron's Gaming Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    2,754
    That's only like 4 or 5 stations of it. Extravis's unreleased version is more advanced in development, but they've been quiet about it (at least on Facebook) since 2019, so make of it what you will. I'm still going to wait for a full proper actual announcement.
     
  15. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    6,586
    Likes Received:
    6,018
    Yup, and then wait for the wolves to rip it apart
     
    • Like Like x 1
  16. Cameron's Gaming

    Cameron's Gaming Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    2,754
    Oh of course. I can already see people whinging about the sounds of the train, that they've never actually heard, and demanding AP do an enhancement pack - despite the included sounds being recorded from a real one.
     
    • Like Like x 5
  17. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2018
    Messages:
    2,558
    Likes Received:
    1,082
    • Like Like x 1
  18. Matthew Wilson

    Matthew Wilson Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2017
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    239
    Coventry isn't part of the Cross City route and being as its already in one route, unless this is an extension, there'd be little reason to include it.

    Im aware I am speculating but these achievements are official things submitted to Steam for the game and as Cameron pointed out above, there's also one called West Midlands.
     
  19. tardisgaming07

    tardisgaming07 Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2020
    Messages:
    126
    Likes Received:
    159
    XC route is 'below par' to say the least and would take a lot of fixing up to be released as a DTG route.
     
  20. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2018
    Messages:
    2,558
    Likes Received:
    1,082
    Because their standards are so high? [cough] WCML South [cough]
     
  21. Matthew Wilson

    Matthew Wilson Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2017
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    239
    One route that was actually built by a group of people from the TS community rather than a full in-house development.
     
  22. A Wilkinson

    A Wilkinson New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2018
    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    19
    I am guessing this is Extravis version with class 323 they were working on with the Cross City Line
     
  23. Matthew Wilson

    Matthew Wilson Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2017
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    239
    I've seen this guess put out in a lot of places and it baffles me. They posted about 4 updates on social media, the last of which were almost 2 years ago........I have no idea why that gives people the confidence that it is in fact this being as they have not made a single other post about this or anything else over the course of that period.

    I may be proven wrong but I'd be quite amazed.
     
  24. Blacknred81

    Blacknred81 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2019
    Messages:
    2,548
    Likes Received:
    5,718
    So with Bahnstrecke Riesa - Dresden Route being released Feb 11th, this may be out later this month or early April, so I expect a new US route around June to July. With those 3 being part of the TS2022 bundle being released around August-September.
     
  25. HasanMulla

    HasanMulla Member

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2018
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    47
    If you look at my profile picture, you can tell this is something that I am very excited about :cool:
     
  26. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2018
    Messages:
    2,558
    Likes Received:
    1,082
    They seem to have taken them down now.
     
  27. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2018
    Messages:
    2,558
    Likes Received:
    1,082
    If you check on Exophase, they all seem to have been achieved on Feb 28th at 4:20am by this man...

    456734573.JPG

    The mystery deepens LOL
     
  28. andy.malcolm

    andy.malcolm Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2019
    Messages:
    207
    Likes Received:
    89
    If they are all at the same time then they used an editor to give themselves achievements.
     
  29. Cameron's Gaming

    Cameron's Gaming Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    2,754
    I honeatly wouldn't read much into that - I got a couple of achievements for the Arriva Trains Wales DMU Pack well before it was announced (actually, it was before the original South Wales Coastal was announced, as I remember frantically searching the Steam Store for anything ATW related and couldn't find anything)
     
  30. martschuffing

    martschuffing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2020
    Messages:
    538
    Likes Received:
    463
    Bout time.
     
  31. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2018
    Messages:
    2,558
    Likes Received:
    1,082
    Im not, hence the LOL.
     
  32. DPSimulation

    DPSimulation Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    91
    Nowt to do with me.

    Before looking at whether third parties are involved I always consider how a DTG route release ties in with what has gone before. Birmingham New Street is part of their last release so they have a base to work from, using that is a logical step.
     
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2021
    • Like Like x 1
  33. Pookeyhead

    Pookeyhead Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2018
    Messages:
    2,558
    Likes Received:
    1,082
    So probably a new DTG route then?
     
  34. DPSimulation

    DPSimulation Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Messages:
    39
    Likes Received:
    91
    I've no idea! But assuming it is Cross City then it makes sense to me.
     
  35. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    5,589
    Likes Received:
    1,623
  36. AirbourneAlex

    AirbourneAlex Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2020
    Messages:
    492
    Likes Received:
    465
    Thanks for confirming that. I still suspect it has something to do with Extravis Games especially since their attempt was well known and was seemingly struggling to find momentum. Maybe Rivet or DTG took over the project, using WCML South as a starting point.
     
  37. Matthew Wilson

    Matthew Wilson Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2017
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    239
    Thats XC as in Cross Country as opposed to Cross City - but it did have the southern part of the Cross City network.
     
  38. rare_common_sense

    rare_common_sense Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2017
    Messages:
    438
    Likes Received:
    783
    I'm not in any way familiar with UK routes outside of TS.. Nor was I ever aware of it already being made by a 3rd party. But I'm going to have to go along with the speculation that it is by the people (Extravis) who have stopped posting about it. That's a strong clue that it could very well be the case that it is their route if they just out of nowhere decided to cease giving updates about it. Would very much love to see a new route with the 323 as I'm a bit fond of the way it looks.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  39. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    5,589
    Likes Received:
    1,623
    If we do get a 323 a GM version would be good
    Screenshot_1 - Test TraK_51.11613-6.22402_12-00-47.jpg
     
  40. tardisgaming07

    tardisgaming07 Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2020
    Messages:
    126
    Likes Received:
    159
    for the last time. This. Isn't. The. Extravis. Route
     
  41. 749006

    749006 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    5,589
    Likes Received:
    1,623
    Who is building the route?
     
  42. tsted.designs

    tsted.designs Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2019
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    67
    How did you come to that conclusion? just wondering...
     
  43. Matthew Wilson

    Matthew Wilson Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2017
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    239
    They'd done nothing and posted nothing in the way of progress beyond very basic train model. As a new developer you have to grow your audience, there's no way they'd go dark for 2 years beavering away and not updating anyone about it at all.
     
  44. Cameron's Gaming

    Cameron's Gaming Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    2,754
    It could be a similar situation to the Class 60 - ie Extravis dropped it and someone else has picked it up. It'd still be the Extravis version in that case. We might not know though until it releases, and even then we may not.
     
  45. Matthew Wilson

    Matthew Wilson Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2017
    Messages:
    156
    Likes Received:
    239
    Shouldn't imagine there's too long to wait and find out, but the Extravis model didn't look too promising so hopefully a new or updated one if that is what we're getting.
     
  46. Cyclone

    Cyclone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2020
    Messages:
    1,327
    Likes Received:
    422
    I have seen a third party XC line. Is this roughly the same area? What portion is covered?

    That said, if it IS that route, we have Birmingham to Bristol, and thus a connection between London Euston and Swansea. Exciting route merging idea. If it's NOT that one, I'm curious what our range would be.
     
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2021
  47. martschuffing

    martschuffing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2020
    Messages:
    538
    Likes Received:
    463
    Nice passenger ride from Bromsgrove to Lichfield TV.
     
  48. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    6,586
    Likes Received:
    6,018
    I think you may be getting mixed up between "cross city" and "cross country"
    Cross city is the line that goes across Birmingham
    Cross country would possibly be the bit you describe between Birmingham and Bristol,

    Nothing's been confirmed either way
     
  49. Cyclone

    Cyclone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2020
    Messages:
    1,327
    Likes Received:
    422
    See, a Canadian would not generally know this. I'm amazed I know more about UK geography on quiz shows now, however.
     
  50. Cameron's Gaming

    Cameron's Gaming Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2016
    Messages:
    2,099
    Likes Received:
    2,754
    The Cross-City Line is a 30-mile(ish) commuter line in Birmingham, running between Lichfield (for connections to the WCML) in the North of the city and Redditch in the South of the city.

    The route you speak of is, as mentioned above, the CrossCountry route, which runs for a couple hundred miles between Bristol to York via Cheltenham Spa, Birmingham, Burton-on-Trent and Leeds. Also, no trains (bar possibly a railtour) run direct from Swansea to London Euston - you'd need to change at Cardiff and Birmingham.
     
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2021

Share This Page