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Steam Nomo

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Jack O'Track, May 14, 2021.

  1. Jack O'Track

    Jack O'Track Active Member

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    Steam IMO is no better or even worse than Facebook; it spies on your purchasing, your gaming time, monitors your hardware, and who knows to whom they are selling the collected info.

    Maybe not right away, see below, but later on. I stopped buying anything from steam now.
    Sorry Dovetail, Sorry Rivet. Just handle your own sales, you make more money too.

    https://www.kitguru.net/gaming/dami...ore-collecting-steam-data-without-permission/

    https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2019/03/19/epic-in-hot-water-over-steam-scraping-code/

    https://steamcommunity.com/app/761910/discussions/0/1777135944136699090/
     
  2. Tigert1966

    Tigert1966 Well-Known Member

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    I struggle to see why anyone is surprised by this. Personally I’m not bothered. Steam can know what hardware I’ve got and when and what I play. I don’t mind anonymous crash reports being collected either.

    Everything we do is tracked these days. My local supermarket knows my lifestyle pretty well thanks to their points card.

    I’d be far more worried about stuff I voluntarily post on the internet. For example some of the people always posting negative things on DTG products on Facebook (rightly or wrongly) are quite easily identifiable. Potential future employers can search for this. People really need to consider what they post themselves!
     
  3. GuitarMan

    GuitarMan Well-Known Member

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    Have you not considered the positives this information could provide to developers?

    Steam tracks Hardware - Developers KNOW the average hardware specs of their users and can avoid creating a game with minimum specs that would eliminate a majority of their customers etc...

    Equally, if a developers customer are not playing on toasters - they can improve the requirements of the game to make more use of the hardware their customers own etc...
     
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  4. DTG Protagonist

    DTG Protagonist Dovetail Special Projects Staff Member

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    I'm curious who you think would want that data other than game developers?
    Also, since that data is anonymised behind your Steam ID what the risk to you is?

    All PC game development relies on Steam data to make better decisions when designing a game. This ranges from hardware choices to the number of hours spent in game. Privacy is important, yes, but ultimately all the data gathered by Steam is used to help the people making software make better software.

    If you're ever concerned about data companies hold, put yourself in the mindset of someone who wants to gain from that data - how could they use it to make your life worse? In Steam's case, the worst case scenario is that it facilitates the development of something that you might really want (because the data suggests it). If you've an alternative perspective, I'm eager to hear it.
     
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  5. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    It's on the internet. Why is this a surprise to anyone?
    And I know lots of people want you to be scared about who has what data of yours (normally to sell you something which "protects you" whilst actually giving them your data instead) but really, who cares if I spend hours playing train games or looking at artificial giraffe insemination videos?
     
  6. Luke8899

    Luke8899 Well-Known Member

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    You'd just better hope there isn't a shady cabal of giraffe fundamentalists with a thirst for revenge and access to the internet.
     
  7. TheCadManFan

    TheCadManFan Active Member

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    Why does this thread remind me of the Gene Hackman character from The Conversation and Enemy Of The State?

    Don't look up, lest a passing satelite take a snap of you. ;)
     

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