Steam Train Hud Question

Discussion in 'TSW Troubleshooting & Issues Discussion' started by trpted, Jan 14, 2025.

  1. trpted

    trpted Active Member

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    Look at the sample HUD for steam trains.

    Train Sim World 4_20241221205302.jpg

    I only get the stuff on the left hand side. How does one get the stuff on the right hand side?

    Please and thank you
     
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  2. aeronautic237

    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    Ooooooooooh!!

    I've never seen that before!
    This suggests that DTG had made this diagram before abandoning development on Steam.

    You can't get the stuff on the right. They haven't made it functional. You can ignore it.
     
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  3. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    I seem to remember when SoS were first released one of the tutorials had this HUD on it, though went back not too long after and it had gone. DTG's treatment of steam has been absolutely disgusting.
     
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  4. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    The stuff about water and coal doesn't exist. Steam locos in TSW somehow don't need them, I presume they were going to be functional before DTG's abandonment of steam.
     
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  5. ilovelucky63

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    Such a shame. TSW isn’t reaching its true potential without more steam.
     
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  6. JellyScrub

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    This just makes me mad. How can DTG give up on a whole era of railways.
     
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  7. SGTDRE

    SGTDRE Well-Known Member

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    It's like when the really wealthy get to the point of F-U money, they forget where they came from, and look down on us peons... Steam built the nations and ironically steam still is used today in NYC and in power generation, it was Steam locos that transported people all over, in the US it bridged east and west. "just drop the {world} part" and call it The Train Sim Game. There is so much history around the world with Steam Locos. But here we are.
     
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  8. trpted

    trpted Active Member

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    Not sure but seems like they do. There are Scenarios dealing with fuel (at least diesel)

    #1 Run out of fuel = Scenario failed. Ex: Running On Vapors

    #2 Fuel the engine(s).
     
  9. DJsnapattack

    DJsnapattack Well-Known Member

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    It's been said many times, but for those that might want the answer again, DTG has said multiple times that the steam routes sold poorly against expectations. I'm sure there will follow a number of people who can't see past that, but both SoS and Peak did not sell very well and DTG have continued to state that modern image routes sell like hot cakes.
     
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  10. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    But if the modern image routes were sold with poor physics on routes with poor timetables would they have sold? Even if DTG don't make more steam locos, they need to fix the mess they have made of them.
     
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  11. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Steam is dead, unless of course it's a blue liveried toy loco that looks vaguely like an E2 tank engine!
     
  12. aeronautic237

    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    Probably. People are generally most interested in what they grew up with, regardless of whether the physics are right. Those who grew up with steam probably didn't grow up with many video games, so found other hobbies like model trains or going to the station and just watching trains.

    Those that did find gaming and are old enough to remember steam traction (I'm imagining 55 or older, given that Steam apparently died in 1968 in the UK) apparently only make up about 25% of gamers (and even they apparently play only an average of 20 minutes per day). Those are numbers I found from here https://www.statista.com/statistics...ring a 2023 survey, 25,are 59 years and older.

    I agree that there is a big market for the diesels that replaced steam and that DTG should at least reinstate the original steam physics if they don't fix them. However, even I was only interested in SoS to try steam locos out. I don't have Peak Forest, and the Flying Scotsman was included in TSW4's deluxe edition.

    I believe that there is a small market for steam, but I assume the amount of work required to make the steam loco, then to find reference material for an old route and recreate it in colour is higher than that required for a modern route. For the same price, why would DTG put in more effort?

    Having written all of that, I am now sad that we probably won't see much more steam in TSW.
     
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  13. Thorgred

    Thorgred Well-Known Member

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    im 57 but i never grew up with steam
    electrification was already completed around 1958 here in the netherlands
    i would certainly not mind having another steam train route for TSW with some nice Steam Locomotives
     
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  14. DJsnapattack

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    you make an interesting point sir
     
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  15. Thorgred

    Thorgred Well-Known Member

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    even the modern routes do not have always perfect physics it is no excuse to stop making steam train and or older routes
    hopefully a 3rd party will pick it up
     
  16. rennekton#1349

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    It's because the vocal minority are like it doesn't meet a basic standard and therefore it is terrible. Some 3rd parties have already said they won't do steam because the simulation is just that bad.
     

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