Train Sim World 3 Suggesting One Long Route, Swr Weymouth To London Waterloo?

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  1. cam#3541

    cam#3541 New Member

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    Would be great to have this in game both PC and Console, One my favourite Rail Companies and Living in Dorset a route that does go through my hometown! Would love to do this route sometime soon n hoping Dovetail See this and consider it! Not the only person wanting route like this one seen other posts on Facebook, Twitter and this forum about wanting the SWR Weymouth - LDN Waterloo road added! Hopefully see this soon!
     
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  2. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Not likely.

    The route itself is too long so around 50-70 miles should be manageable, as long as there is a logical end point.
     
  3. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Weymouth to Southampton seems a more likely possible route length.
    the whole thing would be 143 miles or so, and that's too long, especially with the timetable up near Waterloo
     
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  4. elarthur

    elarthur Well-Known Member

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    As said by others, the entire route is just too long and busy. Therefore, we would only get it in sections. Personally I prefer the metro section around London with the likes of the Kingston and Hounslow loops, the Windsor and Reading lines, and branches to Shepperton, Hampton Court, Epsom and Chessington South etc. I logically conclude that the break points would be at Basingstoke and Bournemouth giving three sections between Waterloo and Weymouth.
     
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  5. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Basingstoke to Bournemouth might be just about possible. Personally I would like to see Southampton to Weymouth in BR Classic so we could have the 4REP and 4TC units with 33/1’s push pulling between Bournemouth and Weymouth and vv. Not forgetting the highlight which would be the Weymouth Quay line.
     
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  6. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Given they can't make cars that move properly, this would just be a slow crawl along some line in the road...
     
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  7. OldVern

    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    Still iconic and unique in many eyes though, the more so now the tracks have finally been torn up and its never coming back. Many years ago I was actually in Weymouth when the trip came out of the Harbour and it was fascinating to trot along keeping ahead of it.

    And technically we could have obstructions as one of the Rivet IOW 484 scenarios, "After The Storm" has you stopping to remove obstacles such as a fallen tree or trampoline. Though I stuffed up and failed to stop short of one of the trampolines, which in a rather unlikely turn of events derailed the 484!!
     
  8. pessitheghost

    pessitheghost Well-Known Member

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    We haven’t even gotten London to Birmingham or London - Peterborough, Waterloo to Weymouth in one route would be near impossible, the london end is extremely busy, not to mention the layers and rolling stock needed to make it happen, a route like that would be an absolute PC killer, maybe London to Southampton or London to Poole, but Weymouth won’t come at once unless broken down
     
  9. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Consoles maybe, PCs would be fine

    You know all the assets other than a few stations needed for London to Southampton are the same if you extend to Weymouth, right?
    Cutting out the bits at each end (ie the London bit or the overlap where SWR and GWR both run) would be what reduce the asset load
     
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    the very best PCs might be fine, anything below the best would probably struggle, Gen 9 would not get anything above 30fps round the South Western core, unless the timetable is reduced. A SWML timetable would be bigger than a BML timetable. I think south western railway have the busiest timetable in the United Kingdom, Waterloo usually has like 4 or 5 trains leaving at once
     
  11. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Ah, you mean people wouldn't get 60fps out of that
    That would of course change things with several pinch points, but then I doubt any major station on the SWML would NOT have this problem

    Not sure that's the case. I think your statement needs to be offset by there being more trains joining and leaving the BML further down the tracks than happens on the SWML. Waterloo is certainly the busiest terminus station, with Clapham Junction the busiest overall by train movements (Stratford is up there too, also a busy junction station) but a lot of BML services start at Victoria and then terminate further north, with many of the "full length" runs being Thameslink services which don't go up to Victoria itself
    Can't be bothered to do a full station comparison along the route length but I'm sure they're pretty similar in business for passenger services overall.
    What the SWML does have over the BML is freight, especially further south. The BML has little to none, Southampton and Eastligh have a fair bit
     
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  12. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    Well history tells that a large station like munich halves your fps no matter what tier computer you have. Even London victoria and the large yards in sos struggle to reach 60fps on a pc
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Excllent idea overall but you might as well do it up to the halfway point of SWML that meant Weymouth Southampton and London Waterloo Southampton
     
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  14. pessitheghost

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    London to Southampton Is probably the perfect length for TSW
     
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    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    maybe they'd update the cars for that section
     
  16. friknob#8781

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    Or we can go for a Southampton to London Waterloo if we do the SWML, and and make it set in 2017 as we already have the stagecoach license so it would be easier to get the SWT license, which was ran by Stagecoach.
     
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  17. friknob#8781

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    Provide more detail so the reader knows more, shorten the distance so your PC doesn’t end up being a fryer (if you have a slow one) and think of when you want to set it, as 2017 would be a good year as SWT is still a thing, and we have higher chances getting that license than the SWR license.
     
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    friknob#8781 Active Member

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    Yep. As I said twice in this forum already, let’s set it in 2017 as we would get the SWT license easier than the SWR.
     
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  19. ARuscoe

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    My comment was aimed at complexity, number of new assets and timetable issues. Your suggestion of the London end wouldn't negate any of those issues whilst doing "the other end" would allow for greater freight use, addition of GWR assets such as the 166 & 158 whilst avoiding the huge timetable complications when you get into Metro territory

    Until the game is stable enough to cope, I would stick with the southern end of the route
     
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  20. lbeadle

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    Would love to see this route on tsw or Southampton , Portsmouth, Windsor and Eton ? I hope this comes into consideration
     

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