Swiss Signals

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    Ok now that I bought this line here is the game specific guide.

    Speed Signs

    Approach Speed Reduction
    With 2 Speeds- Top Freight, Bottom Passenger

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    Start Speed Reduction
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    End Speed Reduction
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    This sign means you can increase to this speed once the rear of the train has passed.

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    Approach Tramway
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    Start Tramway
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    This shows the signal is for trains and not cars
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    Here are some useful ones about gradients.

    The bottom number is gradient % and top number shows the length in meters.

    Decline
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    Level
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    Incline
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    This sign means whistle
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    And this means you have to stop at this point for group signals.
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    Here are the signals

    Distant Signals / Repeter Signals

    Expect Stop - Weirdly enough they show this aspect on stop signals if they are a combined signal.
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    Expect Speed Reduction. Not really sure.
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    Expect Clear
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    Expect Clear Reduced Speed Diverging
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    Stop Signal
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    Group Stop Signal. The lines below indicate which track can proceed by showing a vertical light.
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    Proceed Aspects

    Group Exit showing right track proceed.
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    Proceed
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    This shows proceed with speed limitation. The small green and white light below is the depart station signal.
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    Shunt Signals

    Horizontal lights stop, 45⁰ Expect Stop, Vertical proceed.

    Stop- arrow shows which track it governs.
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    Rear -This means it is showing stop
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    Rear- This means it is showing proceed
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    Tram Signals
    Proceed. Bottom signal is linked to request depart signal.
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    Stop. This is for the request stop signal but is the same aspect for tram signals.
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    Request Stop.

    This flashes to show a stop is requested.
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    End Wires. From above or on the switch.
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    End of track.
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    Shunt Limit
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    The X board is also a shunt limit.
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    And that should cover most of it!
     
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    Fantastic work you put in this - thank you very much! :)
     
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    Amazing work thanks very much.
     
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    This is a great help as always,this is usefull going uphill but going downhill it might be more challenging to keep track of the signs all the time,mainly because i'm sure most people are to busy while useing all 3 braking systems to hopefully get down the mountain in one peice instead of peices.

    Now the only thing we need is a explanation on how the ge 4/4 II in cab saftey system works.Like what sets off the in cab system?Because it offen happens at about the same points along the line,each time.
     
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    My downhill experience has been to use the wheel to control my speed only while using the wheel and main brake only when coming to stops at stations. I don't use the locomotive brake unless I am stopped on a hill and don't want to roll backwards which happens a lot!
     
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    I have read somewhere in one of the post that one of the harder downhill train trips is the 5th senario where you take a group of train fans to the viaduct to take pictures,but the ultimate challenge seems to be getting back down the mountain while having to deal with the fact you now have a heavy 2nd locomotive at the rear to turly test your braking skills,but i guess it really is the ultimate challenge.
     
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    Thank you very much for your work, you have provided very useful and interesting information. It will certainly help me to understand the route better!
     
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    I'm going to do this for all the lines I think!
     
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    Really excellent idea and it should be helpful for future Swiss routes since regardless of track gauge 1.435m or 1 metre gauge Adhesion or in the future Rack Railway Strub Riggenbach and Abt Systems. It seems you got the signaling information directly from SBB-CFF-FFS Infrastructure website.
     
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    vogelm10 This is really quite excellent, thank you for taking the time to create this thread. I'm sure many people in the community will find it useful.
     
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    So actually it came from a combination of the actual rule books, guides for the train sim version, videos on youtube, and google!
     
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    No, it's a confirmed bug. Which hopefully will be fixed in a update.
     
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    Okay...been walking lines and taking photos. Almost ready to make my diffinitive UK signal page.

    2 weeks stuck in quarantine because everyone else at my work has covid. I've had some freetime.
     

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