The Future Of Tsw Is On Roblox

Really TSW: Tycoon on Roblox coming up.

https://mcvuk.com/business-news/kee...ls-jon-rissik-tracks-15-years-of-train-games/

And DTG's flight sim was apparently a success. LoL

 

Just sounds like a load of PR rubbish.

 

What...the...
When we said that Fife Circle looked liked Roblox we weren't far from the truth...

 

Here's hoping this is TSW's annual release this year, we don't need a TSW5 yet.

 

Train Sim World: Tycoon sounds interesting. Build an empire, and manage a fleet of trains and employees.

 

It's just one of several new releases coming according to the article. It's definitely not taking over tsw. It is its own separate game after all

 

Will it have Class 66's, Dosto cab cars and one handle EMU's...?

 

It won’t be a true TSW: Tycon without suicidal passengers.

 

There is quite a fan base out there for TSW style content on Roblox, I do see it quite a lot on the TSW Xbox Club.

 

If it gets kids spending money, they’ll be all over it!

 

Ngl I'm hoping this will be the "Yearly Release" instead of TSW 5. This is something I'd take over TSW 5 anyday

 

You know, it could be.

They talked about yearly releases, who said it wouldn't be something like this.

 

i doubt it will if you read what JD said he said and i quote "To confirm: this won't be something that impacts TSW - it's an external development team." which means it is getting created outside of DTG and they are just helping with things.
Also in the article it sates "expect to hear a lot more about this and other IPs over the next 12 months or so" so its not coming this year if they are going to be talking about it over the next 12 months.

 

If this is the direction it’s going then can we finally stop calling it an ‘authentic rail simulator’.

 

Did you read the article it’s an experience some people outside of DTG are making try reading the article and what JD said above this is nothing to do with TSW and won’t affect it in anyway.

 

bakedpotatos.jm i would change the thread title to something more realistic as this is going to cause arguments in here as usual people don’t read the information they simply take a thread title put 2 + 2 together and get 5.

 

At this rate I can't help but think that it might have a Mk1 buffet car and working steam physics before TSW

 

We need a ROFLOL emoticon.

 

You mispelt Roblox

Hentis

 

Maybe as JD said, this doesn’t impact TSW. It does seem though that since Focus (Pullup) took over, DTG is starting to move towards being more of a publisher of other people’s work rather than specialising in Train Simulators. I do hope TSC and TSW aren’t going to get pushed aside.

I already don’t have a good feeling for the future with potential yearly paid releases.

 

As we are discussing GTA San Andreas in Off Topic and DTG are no longer doing proper US freight routes, maybe time for an alliance with Rockstar to bring the Brown Streak to TSW!

 

Well it wont impactt TSW. Its being done by an outside development team. I dont see how it will affect TSC or TSW?

Yearly Paid releases? We've had "Yearly Paid releases" as you put them since TSC days so it's hardly anything new.

Hentis

 

As experience has taught us what DTG say and what DTG actually do are two totally different things!

 

We haven’t ever had yearly paid releases in TSC. I haven’t paid for a core release since Railworks 3. Yearly route packages yes, but these were not mandatory to continue playing new routes like TSW4 was to play Blackpool.

If Focus decides there is more money in DTG publishing 3rd party software than creating it in house, then it may very well impact TSW. The time frame it’s taking to deliver TSW4 features already indicates to me it’s not getting the development it needs.

Don’t get me wrong, I hope DTG continues to thrive and go from strength to strength. I just don’t like the direction they seem to be taking.

 

I checked out Talewinds website and was disappointed to find AI generated art everywhere despite being a successful company that I'm sure can hire real artists.

Roblox is full of predatory practices with games that like to capitalize on children with egregious micro transactions so I hope that doesn't make it's way into the game.

 

...And Humble Bundle has just dropped a bundle of Roblox online courses and assets.

https://www.humblebundle.com/softwa...linecourse1001assetsmegabundle_softwarebundle

Supported charity is Children's Miracle Network Hospitals, for some extra feelgood.

 

If it makes DTG a lot of money and the one handle EMU's are developed for that -leaving time and cash to develop interesting, historic rolling stock for TSW then I'm all for it.

 

I think the publishing side is unlikely to take over from the Train Simulators - it's what Dovetail are known for and it's what they are, generally, good at.

Tram Sim / City Transport Simulator: Tram are like the cousins of TSW - a similar mode of transport that offers a similar gameplay experience. That's a no-brainer and it's probably beneficial for viewapp to access Dovetail's fairly large audience.

I think with TSC pretty much done - beyond the core updates and 3rd party content - Dovetail may (and this is pure speculation do not quote me here) be using publishing to fill the gap.

Obviously, it's not ideal for Focus to lose that income, either.

The TSW Roblox game is a good move to introduce younger audiences (as JD touched on) who may not be able to get to grips with the 'proper' Train Sims.

In terms of expanding to new audiences / properties, I think Dovetail have done quite well.

But, I agree - that cannot come at any cost to the existing one, being TSW.

 

it won’t affect TSW in anyway including cost read what JD said.

 

I come here slightly embarrassed as I have asked Google and other people what Roblox is and still rather confused. As I understand it is a game with different games within it, yes? If so why should this affect TSW in anyway and what is the fuss? Am I missing something through my naivety?

 

It's more of a game engine like Unreal Engine 4/5. But heavily simplified and user-oriented. You can tchat with others users or join groups of users. It really is a mix between a game engine and a social network

 

You are not missing much trust me.

think Minecraft and a more modern version. You have Roblox.

 

Maybe having this option will stop parents from buying TSW for their kids, then asking places why a train isn't moving cause they can't figure out how to get it to work.

 

Wishful thinking lol. Or the complaints a train is broken because they can’t move it despite not setting it up.

 

Minecraft and Roblox are completely different, there's really no comparison. Roblox is far far closer to Rec Room or Fortnite Creative, as all three are UGC-driven game platforms, where games and experiences created by other users is the primary focus of the game. Note that Fortnite Creative, while based on the same engine as the battle royale and Save The World modes, is not the battle royale game that became very popular a number of years ago. Minecraft is a game in its own right, which can have UGC experiences such as mods and player-created worlds, but they do not form a major part of the experience and the majority of players will not experience these.

 

Same kind of logic a cub shaped person running around a map and toxic communities. Say no more.

not to mention that most servers required users to buy robux or whatever they are called for cosmetics and extras etc.

 

This seems to be the trend, changing from a developer/creator of content to a publisher of SIM games. You see this with TSC being largely 3rd party, the promotion of CTS: Tram and now this TSW Tycoon. I would venture that this is all Focus/Pullup driven.

Just an opinion and, on the surface, all of this diversification is benign I suppose, but I can't help feeling that DTG's attention is being diverted from TSW development to some extent. How much is perhaps related to the dropping of diesel, steam and freight, a narrowing of focus ( if you'll pardon the pun ).

All in all, I'm not optimistic about the direction of TSW at this point. I've felt for some time that nails are being hammered into the coffin. Hope I'm wrong.

 

I genuinely think they are top heavy with marketing and PR staff, very few full time coders and artists remain. The great people who brought us the BR Classic diesels must be long gone. Those that remain may not be familiar with the source code as the original programmers which is why some of the more obvious fixes haven't been achieved (such as adding more save slots or ensuring the save game doesn't lose objective data on a subsequent working). So we now see a subtle shift towards buying in external software and facilitating its publication, getting a nice commission in the process without any of the responsibility.

 

Lol i see the hyperbole machine is in full effect once again.

All i see is a nice TSW spin-off for kids.

As a 45yo with no kids this affects me 0%

Let them have their Roblox lol...it's ok that you don't get it- it's not for us!

 

The part that got me was that DTG's Flight Sim was apparently a success.

If so where is it?

 

It flew away. (To death)

 

I have got DTGs flight sim and I actually enjoyed it the missions were pretty fun.

 

As someone who bought into Flight Sim World during early access I thought that bit was incredulous. The whole thing was completely out of their depth, from programming to the marketing agent they sent to one of the big flight sim conferences in the States. They never got to the point of releasing any jetliners for the game so we got stuck with essentially a slightly better looking FSX for general aviation. Urban myth has it that MS pulled the rights to use the code presumably because at the point they were in talks with Asobo to start work on MSFS 2020.

However the whole thing left a very sour taste, luckily only £20 down the drain.

 

Now, the CEO should do a Q&A with the community. We have some more down-to-earth questions

 

Microsoft wouldn't have greenlit 2020 if FSW was a run away success, but simple fact is when you look at player numbers FSW very clearly was struggling to gain traction.
https://steamcharts.com/app/389280

Compare these numbers to what X-Plane 11 got during the same time and it isn't even a contest.
https://steamcharts.com/app/269950

In the time FSW was struggling to maintain 70ish concurrent players consistently X-Plane had doubled their player count from a fairly ok 250-300ish (which isn't even including non-Steam players) all the way to over 600 players. Not to mention DTG had already kind of blown their reputation amongst core simmers for the reasons OldVern mentioned above me.

 

Yes I remember Avsim forum in particular being very disparaging of the marketing lady they sent to the Flight Sim convention who basically didn’t have a clue once the technical questions started coming in. Not her fault of course, but the then management at DTG should have supported her by sending along an actual coder or their resident aviation expert to field the in depth questions.

 

Well ets2 without the economy part would be kind of boring i guess.

Immagine a economy implementation in tsw. Well done this would have huge potential

 

I'm not sure how you'd manage to put a currency system in a train simulator, considering the only thing that you do is drive the trains.

 

There was a game that did it: Train Life.

Haven't played it, but it seems like Euro Train Simulator. You go to various stations with your little G6 shunter, and pick up jobs. The world was simplified, and much smaller than in real life - much like in Euro Truck Simulator 2.