Yeah, this is another NYC subway suggestion. So if you don't know what the Third Avenue El was it was an elevated subway line owned by the MTA and formerly owned by the IRT. It was also called the 8 Train. The line doesn't exist anymore I don't care as we need more subway lines in TSW. The only subway line we have is the Londen Underground Bakerloo line and no other subway lines. I know people have requested time and time for a NYC Subway expansion and now it's my turn as I love the NYC Subway. Time to get into the very VERY long history trip thanks to Wikipedia for this long history thing In 1875, the Rapid Transit Commission granted the New York Elevated Railway Company the right to construct the railway from Battery Park to the Harlem River along the Bowery and Third Avenue.[6] At that time the company already operated the Ninth Avenue Elevated, which it acquired in 1871 after the bankruptcy of the West Side and Yonkers Patent Railway.[7] The Third Avenue El opened in 1878, running from South Ferry to 129th Street.[2][3] The Manhattan Railway Company took control of the New York Elevated Railroad in 1879. In 1886, the Suburban Rapid Transit Company commenced operations with a railway line over the Harlem River (via a double-decked swing bridge located between the Third Avenue Bridge and Willis Avenue Bridge with the upper deck carrying the express tracks, the lower one the local tracks, and a pedestrian walkway) from the Manhattan Railway's northern terminal at 129th Street to 133rd Street in the southern Bronx, known then as the "Annexed District".[8][9] The Manhattan Railway assumed operations of the Suburban in 1891 as an extension of the Third Avenue Line, and through service between the Bronx and Manhattan began in 1896.[10] A 999-year lease of the Manhattan Railway was brokered by the Interborough Rapid Transit Company in 1902, for which rapid transit services in the Bronx, of which the Third Avenue Line was a part, would eventually be coordinated alongside the new subway.[11] Around this time, the line was electrified.[3] As part of the Dual Contracts, this line was triple-tracked. The project, which caused minimal disruption to the line itself while works were ongoing, allowed for weekday peak direction express service and increased train capacity on the line. For New York City's transportation system, the project was "a more important engineering feat than the building of the Panama Canal" according to the IRT.[12] The center track of the Bronx portion opened on January 17, 1916;[13] in Manhattan it was opened on July 9, 1917.[3][8] As of 1934, the following services were being operated: 3rd Avenue Local - South Ferry to 129th Street weekdays and Saturdays day and evenings, South Ferry to Bronx Park Sundays day and evenings, also between City Hall and Bronx Park weekdays AM and PM peak, also Saturdays AM peak. During late nights, a shuttle was operated between South Ferry and Canal Street connecting with trains from City Hall to Bronx Park. 3rd Avenue Thru-Express - City Hall to 241st St via White Plains Road Line weekday and Saturday AM peak northbound and weekday PM peak southbound, using the center express track south of Tremont Avenue. All other hours a shuttle operated between 241st Street and Fordham Road. 3rd Avenue Local-Express - City Hall to Bronx Park - weekdays and Saturdays day and evening, using the center express track south of 129th Street southbound until noon and northbound afternoon thru evening. Trains running in the opposite direction made all local stops. In December 1937, some weekday midday and evening, Saturday midday thru evening local-expresses, and all Sunday and late-night locals were extended to 241st Street, replacing shuttles except northbound in the AM peak and southbound in the PM peak. 84th Street station of the Third Avenue El in September 1942 In 1943, Sunday evening local trains were rerouted to City Hall, with shuttles from Canal Street running to South Ferry. On November 5, 1946, service to Freeman Street was stopped, and all weekday and Saturday morning peak locals were routed to South Ferry. In 1947, Saturday service was further reduced. 129th Street local trains were eliminated, as were morning peak thru-expresses, which were changed to local-expresses. Saturday midday and evening local-expresses ran from South Ferry or City Hall to Tremont Avenue–177th Street, and locals from South Ferry or City Hall to Bronx Park. On April 22, 1950, Saturday morning local-expresses were converted to locals. On April 30, 1950, all Sunday locals were routed to South Ferry, with a shuttle connection from Canal Street to City Hall. However, on December 22, the line from Chatham Square to South Ferry was closed, with all trains running to City Hall except weekday peak locals that ended at Chatham Square.[14] In addition, weekday peak service north of Gun Hill Road was eliminated, as were weekday locals to 129th Street. On March 14, 1952, service south of 149th Street was reduced to weekday daytime only, with Gun Hill Road to 149th Street locals at other times. On May 29, 1952, weekday midday local-expresses were eliminated. On June 26, 1952, thru-expresses were cut back to Gun Hill Road. On November 21, 1952, morning rush hour locals were cut back from Chatham Square to Canal Street, and PM rush hour locals were cut back from Fordham Road to 125th Street.[15] However, this resulted in severe overcrowding, so local service to Fordham Road in the PM peak direction was resumed on December 3, 1952. On December 31, 1953, the Chatham Square to City Hall portion of the line was closed.[16] Service then consisted of local trains from Tremont Avenue or 129th Street and Canal Street in the weekday morning peak, Gun Hill Road and Chatham Square midday, and Chatham Square and 129th Street or Tremont Avenue in the PM peak. Local-expresses and thru-expresses operated between Gun Hill Road and Chatham Square southbound in the AM and northbound in the PM peak hours. Evening, all-night, and weekend service was Gun Hill Road to 149th Street locals. When the El was closed in Manhattan in 1955, the East Side was left with the overcrowded IRT Lexington Avenue Line as the only subway east of Fifth Avenue. Well, that was the history trip well let's get back to my point we need more subway lines also the people a Dovetail completely ignore the subway suggestions most of the time. But I just want a classic subway line that is an expansion. Dovetail is gonna be like "What rolling stock will it use?" Well, it's gonna use the really old IRT composite cars that were from 1904 they ran on the third avenue el for a while until it got shut down. Screw you NYC for demolishing it I'm really happy that you did that. So many of you MTA enthusiasts like me might know about the r39 prototype subway car that was SUPPOSED to run on the Third Avenue Elevated but never ran because the line disappeared. I will say this maybe we can make that a separate addon even though it never went into revenue service on the Third Avenue Elevated but it can be a separate addon even though it never ran. So this is when the line will take place in 1963 ish. only a few years before the line shut down sadly. So that was my suggestion for the IRT Third Avenue Elevated. Give me feedback in the comments! Also a cool video of the third avenue el
Fair write-up, but DTG have been pretty adamant about no NYC subway routes. Further complicating it would be having to develop a route based solely off historic photos and film. The Transit Museum may be able to help by providing some research and access to their heritage fleet, but this one's probably a no-go from DTG. If you have MSTS/OpenRails, go to the file library on https://www.trainsim.com and look up File ID 69972; it's a NYC elevated route set in the early 1900's. I think it would really scratch your NYC subway itch.
A historical setting might be one way round the licensing/on site research issue, but the effort would seem more likely to come from a competent third party than DTG themselves.
You are correct on that as a matter of fact that will work for Hungarian Czech and Western Ukrainian routes basically the Austrian Federal Railway license covers it under its old name KkStb.
What I am saying is that that's another use of using historical roots to bypass the current license holder for the railway line. In the case of New York City 3rd Avenue elevated this would have been owned by the interboro rapid transit. For the Rolling Stock of that route it's inside the Transit Museum Court Street.
irickroll#4031 uh you know i'm a console player and world of subways doesn't on their also vol 4 is the 7 train
I’m aware of the fact it is the 7, but it IS still elevated. I was also not aware of the fact that you are a console player. Sorry
