Rolling stock Class 377 Car length 20.4 m (66 ft 11+1⁄8 in) Width 2.80 m (9 ft 2+1⁄4 in) Height 3.78 m (12 ft 4+7⁄8 in) Maximum speed 100 mph (161 km/h) Weight 173.6 t (170.9 long tons; 191.4 short tons) (377/1, /2, /4, /5) 133.1 t (131.0 long tons; 146.7 short tons) (377/3 only) Traction motors 4–8 × 200 kW (270 hp) Power output 1,200 kW (1,600 hp) (377/1, /2, /4, /5) 800 kW (1,100 hp) (377/3 only) 1,400 kW (1,900 hp) (377/6 and /7) Electric system(s) 750 V DC 3rd rail 25 kV 50 Hz AC Overhead lines (377/2, 377/5 and 377/7 only) Current collector(s) Contact shoe Brecknell Willis pantograph (377/2, 377/5 and 377/7 only) Coupling system Dellner Multiple working Within class, Class 378[2] and Class 379[2] Track gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) standard gauge In service May 2003 – present Manufacturer Bombardier Transportation Built at Derby Litchurch Lane Works Family name Electrostar Replaced Class 319 Class 421 Class 423 Class 455 Class 456 Class 313 Number built 211 units (excluding 28 375/3 conversions) Successor Class 700 (Thameslink) Formation 377/1/2/4/5: 4 cars per unit (DMOC-MOSL-PTOSL-DMOC) 377/3: 3 cars per unit (DMOC-PTOSL-DMOS) 377/6/7: 5 cars per unit (DMOC-MOSL-PTOSL-MOS(2)-DMOS) Owners Porterbrook[1] Operators Southern Southeastern Class 171 In service 2003 - present Manufacturer Bombardier Transportation Built at Derby Litchurch Lane Works Family name Turbostar Replaced Class 205 Class 207 Constructed 2003–2004 Number built 20 sets Number in service 17 sets Formation 2 or 3 cars per unit[1] Fleet numbers 171201 171727 – 171730 171801 – 171812 Capacity 107 seats (2 Car) 241 seats (former 4 Car)[2] Operators Southern Car length 23.62 m (77 ft 5+7⁄8 in) Width 2.69 m (8 ft 9+7⁄8 in) Height 3.77 m (12 ft 4+3⁄8 in) Maximum speed 100 mph (160 km/h) Weight Class 171/7: 90.41 tonnes (88.98 long tons; 99.66 short tons) Class 171/8: 176.21 tonnes (173.43 long tons; 194.24 short tons) Prime mover(s) One MTU 6R 183TD13H per car Engine type Turbo-diesel Cylinder count 6 Displacement 13 L (790 cu in) Power output 422 hp (315 kW) per engine Transmission Voith Hydraulic T211rzze 2 axles driven per car Acceleration 0.5 m/s2 (1.1 mph/s)[3] Braking system(s) Air[2] Safety system(s) AWS, TPWS Coupling system Dellner Multiple working Within class Track gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) standard gauge Class 700 8 cars per 700/0 unit 12 cars per 700/1 unit Year built 2014–2018 Trains built 115 Fleet numbers 700/0: 700001–700060 700/1: 700101–700155 Capacity 700/0: 427 seats (52F, 373S) plus 719 standees[3] 700/1: 666 seats (52F, 614S) plus 1088 standees Train length 20.2 m (66 ft 3 in) Width 2.80 m (9 ft 2 in) Floor height 1.10 m (43.31 in) Doors Double-leaf pocket sliding (2 per side per car) Wheel diameter 820–760 mm (32.28–29.92 in) (new–worn) Wheelbase Motor bogies: 2,200 mm (87 in) Trailer bogies: 2,100 mm (83 in) Max speed 100 mph (160 km/h) Electric system(s) 25 kV 50 Hz AC overhead 750 V DC third rail Current collector(s) Pantograph (AC) Contact shoe (DC) Class 205 In service September 1957 – December 2004 Manufacturer BR Eastleigh Number built 34 trainsets Formation 2/3 cars per trainset Capacity 114 2nd class, 13 1st class Car length 19.51 m (64 ft 0.1 in) 19.34 m (63 ft 5.4 in) 19.51 m (64 ft 0.1 in) Width 2.8 m (9 ft 2.24 in) Maximum speed 75 mph (121 km/h) Weight 56 t (55.1 long tons; 61.7 short tons) 30 t (29.5 long tons; 33.1 short tons) 32 t (31.5 long tons; 35.3 short tons) Prime mover(s) English Electric 4SRKT Mark II (4-cylinder diesel) Power output 600 shp (450 kW) at 850 rpm Coupling system Drophead buckeye[2] Track gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) standard gauge Locos i like Class 151 In service 1985–1989 Manufacturer Metro-Cammell Order no. 30987 (DMSL) 30988 (DMS) 30989 (MS)[1] Built at Washwood Heath, Birmingham Family name Sprinter Replaced BR First-Generation DMUs Constructed 1985[1] Entered service 1985[2] Scrapped 2004[2] Number built 2 Number scrapped 2 Formation 3 cars per unit: DMSL-MS-DMS[3] Diagram DMSL vehicles: DP233 MS vehicles: DR204 DMS vehicles: DP232[1] Fleet numbers As built: 151001–151002 Post-1987: 151003–151004[2] Capacity 232 (total) 68 (DMSL) 84 (MS) 80 (DMS) Car body construction Aluminium[3] Car length DMS vehicles: 19.975 m (65 ft 6.4 in)[4] MS vehicles: 19.600 m (64 ft 3.7 in)[3] Width 2.810 m (9 ft 2.6 in)[4] Height 3.845 m (12 ft 7.4 in)[4] Floor height 1.156 m (3 ft 9.5 in)[4] Doors Double-leaf pocket sliding[3] Wheelbase Bogies: 2.300 m (7 ft 6.6 in) Bogie centres: 14.040 m (46 ft 0.8 in)[4] Maximum speed 75 mph (121 km/h)[3] Weight DM vehicles: 32.4 tonnes (31.9 long tons; 35.7 short tons) MS vehicles: 32.1 tonnes (31.6 long tons; 35.4 short tons) Total: 96.9 tonnes (95.4 long tons; 106.8 short tons)[3] Prime mover(s) 3 × Cummins NT855-R5 (one per vehicle)[1] Engine type Inline-6 4-stroke turbo-diesel[5] Displacement 14 L (855 cu in) per engine[5] Power output 638 kW (855 hp) total[3] Transmission Twin Disc 1330 UIC classification 2′B′+2′B′+B′2′ Bogies Metro-Cammell[3] Braking system(s) Electro-pneumatic[3] Coupling system BSI[1] Multiple working Within class, and with Classes 14x and 15x[3] Track gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) standard gauge Class 401 Car body construction Steel-panelled wooden-framed body on steel underframe Train length 129 ft 6 in (39.47 m) Car length 62 ft 6 in (19.05 m)[2] Width 9 ft 3 in (2.82 m)[3] Doors Slam[3] Maximum speed 75 mph (121 km/h)[3] Weight 74 long tons 15 cwt (75.9 t) (total) 43 long tons 10 cwt (44.2 t) (MBSL) 31 long tons 5 cwt (31.8 t) (DTCL)[3] Traction motors 2 × MV339 2 × EE507C (MV339 replacements) 2 × EE339 (as built)[2] Power output 2x 275 hp (205 kW) (as built) 550 hp (410 kW) (total, as built)[3] 2 x 250 hp (186 kW) (replacement) 500 hp (373 kW) (total, replacement) name=TRC1 /> Electric system(s) 750 V DC Third rail[3] Current collector(s) Contact shoe UIC classification Bo′2′+2′2′ Braking system(s) Automatic air Coupling system Screw[3] Multiple working SR Standard system (1936 Type) Track gauge 4 ft 8+1⁄2 in (1,435 mm) Class 77 Power type Electric Builder BR Gorton Works Build date 1953–1954 Total produced 7 Configuration: • UIC Co′Co′ • Commonwealth Co-Co Gauge 4 ft 8+1⁄2 in (1,435 mm) standard gauge Wheel diameter 3 ft 7 in (1.092 m) Length 59 ft 0 in (17.98 m) Loco weight 102.5 long tons (104.1 t; 114.8 short tons) Electric system/s 1500V DC Catenary Current pickup(s) Pantograph, x 2 Traction motors Metropolitan-Vickers Train heating Steam generator Loco brake Air and electrical regenerative Train brakes Vacuum Class 445 In service 1971-1980 Manufacturer BREL Order no. 30818 (DMSO, 445, 446) 30819 (MSO, 445)[1] Built at BREL York Family name 1972 design (PEP)[2] Constructed 1971 Entered service 1973[1] Number built 2 × 4-car (445) 1 × 2-car (446) Number scrapped All Formation 2/4 cars per trainset: DMSO+MSO+MSO+DMSO (445) DMSO+DMSO (446) Diagram 861 (DMSO, 445, 446) 862 (MSO, 445)[1] Design code PEP Fleet numbers 4001-4002 (445, set) 2001 (446, set) 64300-64305 (DMSO, 445, 446) 62426-62429 (MSO, 445) Capacity 280 (445) 136 (446) 68S (DMSO) 72S (MSO)[1] Operators British Rail Train length 264 ft 10 in (80.72 m) (445) 132 ft 5 in (40.36 m) (446) Car length 64 ft 11+1⁄2 in (19.799 m) (DMSO) 65 ft 4+1⁄4 in (19.920 m) (MSO)[1] Width 9 ft 3 in (2.82 m)[1] Height 11 ft 6+1⁄2 in (3.518 m) Doors Bi-parting sliding Maximum speed 75 mph (121 km/h) Weight 31 long tons 6 cwt (31.8 t) (DMSO, 64305) 35 long tons 7 cwt (35.9 t) (DMSO, others) 34 long tons 6 cwt (34.9 t) (MSO)[1] Traction motors 4 × GEC[1] (per car) Power output 4 x 100 hp (75 kW) (per car) 1,600 hp (1,200 kW) (445, total) 800 hp (600 kW) (446, total) Electric system(s) 750 V DC third rail Current collector(s) Contact shoe Bogies BREL BP8 (2001)[3] BREL BT5 (4001) Mk6 (4002, 446) F-type (64305)[1] Braking system(s) Air EP/rheostatic (445) Air, rheostatic (446) Coupling system Scharfenberg (outer) Bar (inner) Multiple working Within type only Track gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) standard gauge Line length 43 mi 28 ch (69.8 km). Opened 1884. Electrification 750 V DC third rail (London Victoria/London Bridge to East Grinstead) None (Hurst Green to Uckfield) Track gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) standard gauge. I hope you and dovetail like what I have made And i will do more in the future. THE END
I thought about this route as a possible candidate the other day, but London Bridge to Uckfield and East Grinstead. The Class 171 would be the new train (with the possibility of it layering onto SEHS at Ashford, London Commuter and East Coast Way, as they used to run Brighton-Ashford services), with Class 377 and Class 700 as other drivable trains. In my idea, the Class 377 East Grinstead services start at East Croydon (as most start at Victoria), while the Class 171's run through to London Bridge (with many London landmarks on view), Class 700 services would mostly be London Bridge to both East and South Croydon stations to replicate the Brighton and Horsham services, with occasional services at peak times to East Grinstead (these are operated by 12 car units usually rather than 8 in reality however). There is also potential for Heritage Railway AI layers, as the East Grinstead line connects to the Bluebell Railway at East Grinstead and the Spa Valley Railway runs parallel to the Uckfield Line for a mile or so on the section between Ashurst and Eridge (where they share the station with Southern), with the Spa Valley branching in at the former Birchden Junction into Eridge. Potential layers could include: - Class 387 Gatwick Express (AI) - Rail Head Treatment Train - Class 66 (top and tail railtour to Uckfield and East Grinstead in multiple parts) - Flying Scotsman (railtour/LE movement to and from East Grinstead, AI layer at the Bluebell East Grinstead station, as the loco has visited the railway in 2017 and 2023) - LMS Jubilee (same as Scotsman, although one hasn't visited since opening to East Grinstead and the last visited in 2004') - 8F (AI layer at the Bluebell East Grinstead station, an 8F visited for a Gala in 2016) - Class 33 (AI at the Bluebell East Grinstead and on Spa Valley between Birchden Junction and Eridge, as both railways are home to members of the Class) - Class 31 (AI between Birchden Junction and Eridge, as one is based on the Spa Valley) - LMS 4F (AI between Birchden Junction and Eridge, as a 4F has visited the line before)
Love the suggestion basis. Oxted line would be awesome as would the Thumper DEMUs. However, the locomotives lower down the list need their own Suggestion threads and appropriate routes. The Class 151 was experimental to the most part and could likely go on a Old Dalby Test Track route with the likes of Class 210, 140, and APT-E. The 77 only works with a 50s/60s era Woodhead Route. I also like the early SR EMUs but there are others including the Class 403 5BEL Pullman sets. As for the Class 445, it is worth adding the Class 446 2 car variant and both would work on a early 1970s SR route alongside older SR EMUs.
I do really approve of this route, I know it's the impossible to get two London terminals in the same map, however I would honestly pay £39.99 for this to have Victoria & London bridge for the amount of services that can be played in the game especially with the new overground DLC coming soon we could use that for AI via New cross too. This would be amazing to play!
