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The Peninsula Corridor In The 50's

Discussion in 'Route Suggestions & Proposals' started by Adam Palmer, Mar 16, 2018.

  1. Adam Palmer

    Adam Palmer Member

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    Introduction
    As many of you are familiar, Train Simulators Peninsula Corridor route is set in the current era of CalTrain and runs between San Francisco's 4th and King St. Station to San Jose Diridon and further south to Gilroy. While CalTrain runs many commute services and there's at least some variety of freight operations, truth be told the Peninsula Corridor is but a shadow of its former self.
    It is with this that I greatly suggest for Train Sim World's first foray into steam, The Peninsula Corridor in the 50's.

    The Route
    The Peninsula Corridor in the 50's route encompasses the SP main line from San Francisco's 3rd and Townsend St. Station to San Jose's Cahill Station. Along with the main line the yards and industrial trackage of San Francisco and San Jose are to be included as well. This includes, in San Francisco: King St. Yard and the interchange with the State Belt Railroad, Mission Bay and its car ferry slip, and the large Bayshore Yard and engine facility. In San Jose the route should encompass the full coach yard, around where CalTrain's CEMOF facility is located today along with Newhall Yard as it was during this time.
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    Above: San Francisco's 3rd and Townsend St. Station. Below: San Jose Cahill Station.
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    Below: SP's Mission Bay yard.
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    Above: Bayshore Yard.
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    Above: Newhall Yard in Santa Clara.

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    Above: Track Diagram of the San Jose area.

    Locomotives
    The 1950's were the transition era on the SP. Steam was beginning to be replaced by diesel locomotives. However steam still made up the bulk of power on the Peninsula. The backbone of the operation were a fleet of 4-6-2 Pacific's, however it was not uncommon to also see 4-8-2 Mountain's and 4-8-4 GS class Northerns on commute services. The GS (Golden State) class 4-8-4 Northerns are one of the most recognizable steam locomotives of SP design along with the AC class Cab-Forwards. One of the most notable tasks the Northerns ever performed was the hauling of the Coast Daylight from San Francisco to Los Angeles.
    To work the yards, SP had an army of switcher's and on the Peninsula you could find mainly 2-8-0's and 0-6-0's handling switching tasks at the various yards and major stations along the line.
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    Above: SP 4-6-2 Pacific. Below: SP 4-8-2 Mountain.
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    Above: SP GS-4 4-8-4 Northern in Daylight paint scheme. Below: GS-4 in Warbaby.
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    Above: An SP 2-8-0 Consolidation. Below: An SP 0-6-0.
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    For Train Sim World primary power for commute and long distance passenger trains should consist of the 4-6-2 Pacific and GS-4 Northern in black "Warbaby" and Daylight liveries. Power for freight services should include the 4-8-2 Mountain and 2-8-0 Consolidation for local services and 0-6-0 for switching.


    Passenger Stock
    During this era the bread and butter of the Peninsula Commute was a fleet of 1911 Pullman built Harriman style coaches. The coaches measured 60' in length and had arched roofs, reverse swing-over seats, and sat up to 68 passengers. The Peninsula Corridor also played host to several long distance trains, most notable of which include the Lark and the Coast Daylight. The Lark was an overnight train that ran the same route as the Daylight, between San Francisco and Los Angeles, and operated with mail service. The Daylight operated with a stunning consist of red, orange, and black painted cars and locomotives, some cars of which were articulated and semi-permanently coupled together. http://spdaylight.net/Consist.html

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    Above: SP Harriman commuter coaches. Below: The full consist of the Coast Daylight.
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    The observation car of the Lark.
    Passenger stock for Train Sim World should include the Harriman coaches as well as the full consist for the Lark and Coast Daylight as well as Baggage and RPO cars for mail trains.

    Freight Stock
    To properly get a feel for the era freight stock for the Peninsula Corridor in the 50;s route should include: an SP 40ft Boxcar, PFE Reefer, Tank Car, Flat Car with variable loads, Gondola, early TOFC flatcar, Stock Car, and C-30-1 caboose.

    Conclusion
    I feel this route would be a great addition to Train Sim World as it would be a great first foray into steam locomotives. Also I feel representing an already existing route in an earlier era gives a great sense of history and adds a new perspective to the Train Sim experience. The Peninsula Corridor during this time period is host to a myriad of operating potential from commuter services to fast long distance passenger trains to through and local freights and switching activities. In all, to put it bluntly, this will be a fantastic route.
     
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  2. NEC_Male_TC

    NEC_Male_TC Active Member

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    Yes! This would be awesome in Train Sim World! Although I would like to see it go from San Francisco to Salinas regardless of the era in Train Sim World, a 1950s version of the Peninsula Corridor section of the Coast Line from just San Francisco to San Jose would be excellent! A lot of things were different on the route in the 1950s than they are today besides the presence of steam then and the lack of steam now. For example, San Francisco's 4th & King Street Station didn't exist yet, it was 3rd & Townsend Station. Also, San Francisco itself had a lot more railroad track mileage than it does now, which should also be included such as the branch line to Fisherman's Wharf.

    So if this route were to be made for Train Sim World, then I hope it has all of the trackage from San Francisco to San Jose (or, preferably, either to Gilroy or Salinas) that existed in the 1950s that was included in the San Francisco to Gilroy Peninsula Corridor route as well as the branch line to San Francisco's Fisherman's Wharf. GS-4 Daylight 4-8-4 Northerns, P-10 Class 4-6-2 Pacifics, 0-6-0 tender engines and EMD E9s all in Southern Pacific liveries appropriate to the time should be included too, then we've got a great route!
     
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  3. NorthRail1

    NorthRail1 Well-Known Member

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    Whilst it would be good to see Southern Pacific steam in the future, personally I think that DTG should create Union Pacific steam such as the FEF-3 or Challenger on a route such Evanston - Rock Springs before creating this route. Maybe a third party may make this route once the content creation tools are released.
     
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  4. Adam Palmer

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    The "branch" to Fisherman's Wharf was actually the separate entity, the State Belt Railroad. That would be pretty cool though with its ALCO switchers.
     
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  5. jedi247

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    What about SP diesel action? This route definitely needs an ALCO RSD15 (in red/grey "Bloody Nose" livery), a Fairbanks-Morse H-24-66 Trainmaster (in both "Black Widow" and "Bloody Nose" liveries), a GP7 or GP9 (in both liveries), an SD7 or SD9 (in both liveries), and maybe an EMD NW2 or SW7 switcher (in "Bloody Nose" livery). We can't forget SP F7 or FP7 As & Bs (in "Black Widow," "Bloody Nose" or Daylight liveries), Daylight liveried E8 or E9 A & B units, or Daylight ALCO PA-1 A & B units. The rolling stock needed would be freight (plus cabooses and passenger cars, including the Coast Daylight.
    Maybe we could get both steam and diesel for this route. I would suggest a GS series 4-8-4 (Warbaby and Daylight liveries), an SP AC-9 Yellowstone 2-8-8-4, a Cab Forward (maybe), a 2-8-2 Consolidation, and other steam action.
     
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  6. Adam Palmer

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    These would all make for great DLC's, probably would work best in a "First Generation Diesel" pack, kind of what the BR Blue pack did for the Weardale network route. Take the era from the 50's to the late 60's early 70's. A lot of the route was still there in the 70's.
     
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