The Red Light Bug District [multiple Platforms, Pc, Xb, Ps]

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  1. SGTDRE

    SGTDRE Well-Known Member

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    This one has been like this for quite some time, was it ever reported? I could not say.
    [TSW4] On Foot Timetable Scenario @ Salzburg HauptBahnhof red light bug


    This is another one that has been like this for some time. I've seen it talked about, whether or not it's been reported, I could not say.
    [TSW4] RE 87 23390 Wertheim to Aschaffenburg Hbf Red Light Bug


    This was completed by me before the 9 July 2024 update when I changed the game files from read-only and the game updated.
    [TSW4] S-Bahn Vorarlberg International Rescue Completed Before Update


    This, my daughter completed to show how to get through the neutral zone that some people were having a hard time understanding why their train was stopping after a certain point in the scenario.
    [TSW4] How to Complete International Rescue Scenario


    This one, my daughter revisited to show that it has been afflicted/infected with the red light bug. This has been reported on the forums here, I believe? But also a few times on the Steam discussion thread for TSW4.
    [TSW4] S-Bahn Vorarlberg Lindau - Bludenz: International Rescue Hit with Red Light Bug


    The scenarios as shown here infected by the red light bug will be revisited again since the 23 July 2024 update to see if anything changes and the post will be updated accordingly.
     
  2. SGTDRE

    SGTDRE Well-Known Member

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    So This Fool hung out for "see images"
    Yeah, No International Rescue Here.
    20240805100525_1.jpg 20240805101733_1.jpg
     
  3. jahmutt#8402

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    Still bugged as of this minute on Xbox it would seem, glad to hear it's not just me having the issue at least even if it's been faulty for so long
     
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    SGTDRE Well-Known Member

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    No, you are not alone, I suspect these [ALL] are also on PS?
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    Added {ALL} as it was left out when I posted this message.
     
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    Today's update should have fixed this bug, but it's still occurring to me. I am playing on steam.
     
  6. MaxDiehard

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    Typical DTG, haven't tested yet again.

    It's still broken on PS5, and being as shady as they always do, have removed the 'supposed' fix from their update blog post, instead of acknowledging that it's still an issue.
     
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    International rescue still has the red light issue, like months before...and I'm on PC...:(
     
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  8. Doyden

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    I wasted my time trying this again yesterday. The update downloaded as I launched the game and so tried International Rescue again but faced the same problem. So I thought maybe the fix hadn't been applied because the updates were installed whilst the game was launched, even though the game appeared to wait until all updates had completed before continuing.

    I've just tried again and it's still the same. That's at least a half dozen times I've attempted this now. The first few times were because I thought I was doing something wrong. The last few were because I mistakenly trusted DTG when they said they'd fixed it!

    This is on PS5.
     
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  9. levy#6101

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    Yeah the issue is still there as today after the update on Steam :(
     
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    It is a nice run also, who knows when and if it will patched, as well as the others.
     
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    It looks as if the latest update has reignited the stuck at red light situation and not just resuming a saved game, along with other issues (spawning on foot instead of in your selected trains cab).

    Got to wonder if they are still in a mess for beta testing after the incident last month and these updates are being pushed out without some sort of external play testing. Then again, I would have thought there are separate teams doing beta for the existing version and TSW5/new content.
     
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  12. rigolo#8694

    rigolo#8694 Member

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    I just can't believe it! On two (at least) occasions DTG indicated that the problem had been corrected... well no, still stuck behind the red light !!!!
     
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    SGTDRE Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they were beta-testing TSW5 and pushed most other things for TSW4 aside, they needed all hands-on TSW5. Honestly, I can't think of it any other way.
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    Yeah, it was being fixed as they created TSW5, Oh wait The red light bug on these was pushed aside, Silly me to think they were working on how to correct the issue.
     
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    Now I dont think we will ever see a fix for this bug and for the International Rescue achievement =(
     
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    That is the way it looks.
     
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  16. rigolo#8694

    rigolo#8694 Member

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    That's a shame. For those who are interested, it is not possible to obtain the Mastery reward for this route (Bregenzer Festspile Celebration) without having completed this scenario. The same goes for the NEC: NY-Trenton route, where you have to complete 3 scenarios with a difficulty of 4 or more, whereas there are only 2 scenarios available with this criterion. I've finished with the new DTG products.

    How can they continue to sell products with bugs that have been known about for a long time? DTG have a good team to present their products. But they don't have beta testers, or they're not very good. They're not professional and their products are very expensive. And they'll be selling the ‘VR’ option by route separately with a META headset only. It's a complete joke.
     
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  17. TemporaryAl

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    Just a reminder that, for the people who don't see going around a software bug as cheating in their pursuit of achievements, these things can usually be circumvented with the so called godmode mod available online. At least on PC.
     
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    SGTDRE Well-Known Member

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    While true and it may be a way to get something completed, We the players should not need to or have to do so in this way, and just another reason that gets people's feathers ruffled.
     
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  19. troyfalcon

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    It seems that they forgot this bug
     
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  20. rigolo#8694

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    DTG : Update Notes – August 5th 2024 :
    • Fixed an issue during the ‘International Rescue' scenario that caused an AI ÖBB 4024 to block the station at a red light.
    Unfortunately, that's not the case! Without ‘God Mode’, which I'm not interested in, it's impossible to complete all the scenarios and get the ‘Mastery Rewards’ (Bregenzer Festpiele).

    I'm really curious how they test their products before releasing them or keeping them on the market after an unsuccessful update. Even more frustrating this is a TSW4 route.

    I'm still waiting for the patch :mad:! I tried again this morning, without success :(.
     

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    When will they fix this simple bug ?!
     
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    SGTDRE Well-Known Member

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    That is a Very Good question, seeing that it's a TSW4-created route with an accompanying scenario(s) It would be nice to have it working. But who knows what they are or not planning?
     
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    they probably wont, sadly. at least, not for tsw4.
     
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    They'd better fix it. Having unachievable Trophies is irritating.
     
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    In A stream they said TSW4 would get an update last one but what when is anyone's guess? Time will tell.
     
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    I asked them multiple times to remove this achievement if they cant fix the bug, but I don't think they will attend our wishes =(
     
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    I have a feeling this will stay broken just it is. as they move on with TSW5 and ___
     
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    And as one person just stated in the post here S-Bahn Vorarlberg International Rescue is still infected with the Red Light Bug in TSW5. Can either DTG-Chris and or DTG Matt give any info as to when this issue can be resolved?
     
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  29. rigolo#8694

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    Thanks for sharing! I was just wondering if I'd bother trying TSW5 for this scenario. As I understand it, the problems with TSW4 follow TSW5. What's the point of changing versions.
     
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  30. rigolo#8694

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    My 2 cents... incredible to be a beta tester with a 10% discount.
     
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    Mods coming from the community to make broken content work again, is no excuse to not fix it. (especially when only one part of three have access to it)

    Aswell as :

    Layer managing is no excuse for poor optimisation

    Free Roam is no excuse for sparse timetables
     
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    That is what it feels like.
     
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  33. levy#6101

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    So in TSW5 has this same issue. Maybe we upload a new ticket or post about it to achieve something.

    upload_2024-9-17_20-4-56.png
     
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    Yes it would be nice to get more talking about this and as many that are willing to file support ticket.
     
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    It's high time this bug got sorted. Had more than long enough time now to get it sorted
     
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    Still here on TSW5
    They just need to remove the AI Train that is stuck.
     
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    that may work on one but there are a couple of others that also have the red light bug infection.
     
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    i hope one day we'll see the fix for this scenario. every now and then I open this thread to check if there is any news, but I am never positively surprised.
     
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    I'm betting they will (eventually) fix the issue on TSW5, and leave it broken on TSW4 as they normally do when a new version is released.
     
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    This is still bugged! How on earth it is acceptable to have same BUG one year after release? DTG Please answer?

    This game is just sometimes complete mess....
     
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    Do you know how to circumvent a red light bug using godmode? I have tried clearing signals, removing trains, and clearing sections, but nothing seems to work. It's that pesky International Rescue scenario that they broke again.
     
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    I spent HOURS hogging the PC, there is no getting around it, as well as the others in the OP. DTG needs to get in there and fix it.
     
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    There's no excuse for that, as it doesn't affect the global timetable being a self-contained scenario. They could just fire up the editor, remove the blocking service, save, let a beta tester play it and push the patch out. (Fix would take less than a minute in TSC).
     
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    DTG Matt Can we have answer for this matter? When are you fixing this issue?
     
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    I had a feeling that would be the case, unfortunately.

    It's hard not having the mental picture of all the bug issues being dragged into the recycle bin whenever a new version is being developed.
     
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    I may just try one more time and see what happens. and get it on video.
     
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    I am not sure what you mean by clearing signals. If manually setting a red light to the correct route+aspect using the
    ts2.signals.SetRoute <SignalID> <Route ID> (help at https://train-sim-world.fandom.com/wiki/Console_Commands)
    command doesn't work, which it should, well then....
    If you are of the (previously mentioned by me) opinion that you'd rather cheat around an unsolvable bug because it's not your fault anyway, (honestly the only mindset that allows me to play this buggy mess of a game with my OCD), the way I handle completely broken scenarios is just giving myself the points needed through Cheat Engine and then using the complete scenario command.
     
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    This Next entry all started with me trying to assist "Trainiac" in figuring out what was reported here When I say that I spent at least 5 hours and maybe a little more, going to bed at well after sunrise, "Yes I know TMI" my daughter assisted also and about 4 days of her editing. And I can safely, wholeheartedly, say there is NO way around this RED LIGHT BUG It is my hope the video will show where and how I found the ICE 1 train, as well as where we the player will end up sitting for a signal that will not change, I did spend a fair amount of time looking for the ICE 1 train in the wrong place.

    But once I found it, at first I thought I was just doing something incorrectly or being too late or early and the ICE 1 was not showing at the station or it already passed up the station, and being on PC can have varied issues and different issues "bugs" compared to console be it PS or XB. So I re-ran the Scenario multiple times, and I even ran TSW4 seeing that the route layer is Maintalbahn: Aschaffenburg - Miltenberg I thought that just maybe it was a holdover from TSW4 and I could run the scenario in TSW4, well it turns out it is not it is strictly a TSW5 route layer and completely new scenarios.

    Without further ado, I present to you the latest/newest addition to the Red Light Bug District. Now I'm off to check on my XB 1X where I have the FREE starter to see what I find there, if anything, and maybe if I'm feeling spry, I will see what might Purchase. Anyone who has this route on Xbox Feel FREE to chime in.


     
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