The Southeastern Main Line (seml)

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  1. kiyoko91

    kiyoko91 Well-Known Member

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    Southeastern electric multiple units at Charing Cross station

    The SEML is a major long distance route between Dover Priory & London (Charing Cross or Cannon St), the line started in 1842-44 & SER (Southeastern Railway) builded which was in completion with London, Chatham & Dover Railway (LCDR). Crossing over (River Thames) & under major rail lines.
    More than double north & regular 2 tracks south of the Oprington Station. With numerous rolling stocks including Electrostars (Classes 375 & 376), Networkers (Classes 465 & 466) & the Javelin (Class 395). Which is part of the UK's Network Rail system.
    How about London (Charing or Cannon) & Ashford International (24 stations)?

    For more information on this line & fleets, go to...
    https://wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Eastern_main_line
    https://wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_375
    https://wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_376
    https://wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_395
    https://wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_465
    https://wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_466



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    Southeastern Main Line map


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    The Foord Gap Viaduct

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    Class 375 blue livery

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    Class 376 white livery

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    Class 395 (The Javelin)

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    Class 465 (4-car set)

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    Class 466 (2-car set)
     
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  2. billyisitt

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    Yes this would be so awesome! :)
     
  3. kiyoko91

    kiyoko91 Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely
     
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  4. lmcpfc2014

    lmcpfc2014 Well-Known Member

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    I really want this route, even if it only had the 375
     
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  5. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    With SEHS coming, maybe this route could be possible via a route expansion
     
  6. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    The route would be gigantic if they added it as an extension. The only extension I can see them adding is the Sherness Branch, and the Medway Valley Line.

    I honestly think the Main Line would become its own route.
     
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  7. nellican

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    This would be amazing!! A MUST HAVE in my opinion.
     
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  8. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    SEHS / CML doesn't link up with KML at all, the link is MVL between Strood and Paddock Wood

    I mean I would happily see them "make kent" as an entire system which wouldn't be hard given you'd only need a 170, 73 and maybe a 92 to complete all the trains currently operating on the entire county system (not already mentioned in the post above), but a 400 mile system in TSW2?
    I think we're dreaming
     
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  9. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Realised I missed the 700... maybe because I hate the damn thing but still
     
  10. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    what's wrong with the 700s?
     
  11. ZeenozPlays

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    The traction sound maybe?
     
  12. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    I don't like the look of the front, the seats are awful (spending over an hour on them from Gillingham to London Bridge kills your backside) the motor noises are annoying and the light on top that never switches off bugs me too, I know it's so the camera on top can run catenary checks but there's no catenary in Kent... Switch it off!
     
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  13. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    I would’ve thought that Thameslink is for more shorter journeys around the London-Area, and that people wouldn’t normally spend over an hour on the train. Also, it might differ to certain people.

    I agree with the Traction Motor noise being annoying though.
     
  14. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    The traction on the 700s sound strange in my opinion
     
  15. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't Thameslink be more intended for shorter commuter rail services/journeys around the London Metropolitan area. I guess the seats can be uncomfortable since they are not intended to be sat for a hour long journey. It could also vary from person to person as well
     
  16. ARuscoe

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    Nope, Thameslink runs the Rainham to Luton service which has 30 odd stops over two hours, and anyone going from London Bridge or Central London out to Chatham or Medway who doesn't want to have to pay the premium of SEHS would have to use it as the metro services done by SE are all stoppers so take over an hour to do 30 miles, at least the TL is a semi fast service after Charlton so it's just under an hour to Gravesend

    They also runt the Brighton services with the same units, and those are an hour from Brighton to London Bridge (again with that damn light on the whole way on third rail)
     
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  17. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    Ohh i see. This reminds me of the MTA Long Island Railroad and the MTA Metro-North Railroad. Some lines on those railroads take an hour or more to get from start to end. At least the seats on the m7, m7a and m9 are comfy. The m3 and m3a, not so much. I'm glad they got rid of the m3 on lirr.
     
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  18. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    Metro-North is meant for those long journeys from Grand Central/125 St - New Haven/Yonkers though, so the seats almost NEED to be comfortable, especially with any delays in service making the trip longer than it should be.
     
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  19. LTEcactus

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    Most people traveling from Chatham or Rochester will be traveling on Southeastern to London Victoria though. Again most London to Brighton passengers will be traveling on Southern not Thameslink.

    They are a damn sight better than the TfL units that work out to Reading, which are more uncomfortable than underground stock
     
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  20. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    I find it best not to assume anything. Your assumption rules out anyone travelling to the East of Central London. One of the busiest trains I've been on from Gillingham stops at Chatham, Rochester and then fast via Chiselhurst to Cannon Street.
    Not everyone wants to go into West Central London and then back on themselves...

    I didn't find the purple trains that bad, but only on it from Hayes and Harlington to Paddington and that's not that far (or didn't seem to be)
     
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  21. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    There are trains out of Dartford like that, they stop at all stations, and I mean every, single, one... Takes about an hour to do 28 miles and they're always stuffed when they get in (at the peak)
    At least the TL is semi fast
     
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  22. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    An hour to do 28 miles on that train. Hell I rather drive
     
  23. ARuscoe

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    If you don't mind something like £25 per hour to park at the other end ;)
    London's expensive, although you can park for nothing on Sundays on the red routes, which is always good
     
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  24. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    That does sound expensive but manageable for me at least.
     
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    Yes, yes and yes!
     
  26. kiyoko91

    kiyoko91 Well-Known Member

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    It is!
     
  27. elaineedwards2013

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    I would love this route in Train Sim World. Hoping to drive 12 car 375s and 10 car 465/466s, maybe. Depending on the services.
     
  28. trainsimplayer

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    If you ask me SEHS needs to go to Charing Cross or another London Termini for the 375s, and if they Added either of these in this route (which is a fabulous idea by the way) it would be an easy update to SEHS, love the idea!
     
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    Thanks.
     
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  30. elaineedwards2013

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    I love the idea. (500/10). It would be a perfect route for Tran Sim World 2. Hope it is added in the future. Keep up the good work
     
  31. kiyoko91

    kiyoko91 Well-Known Member

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    With pleasure!
     
  32. JayTG123

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    This needs to happen!!!
     
  33. jdonaldson56

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    I would love to see this come to TSW2!
     
  34. kiyoko91

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    Not just that, but I want a NYC subway route as well or another route!
     

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