This one’s a “hear me out” kind of thread. I just did the TSW winter survey and while answering questions regarding mastery, I had an idea. The question was what I would like to receive by doing the mastery challenges and I thought: Why not do a battle pass sort of thing? It would work like this: You spend 10 bucks on this battle pass which is new every three months. It’s actually working like in other games like Valorant or… Fortnite… By completing tasks you get points, as well as by simply driving trains in timetable mode! After a while you receive smaller rewards like stickers for the livery editor or sometimes a mastery reward like firework or hot air balloons. But then you also receive one or two liveries for locos already in game. For example an additional livery for the DB Br101 by completing all tasks! Important notice: To make everyone happy DTG should either include one livery for every major country in each Train pass (this would be the name yk?) or this pass would come out more often and only include one livery each time but change the country now and then. Because logically you sometimes can’t achieve every reward or just started playing the game after a few passes but still want the old things, DTG could sell the rewards from the train pass after the pass ended for 15 bucks so you have an incentive to complete the tasks! But if you don’t you can still buy them so you don’t miss anything. What do you think? Have you got and ideas or improvements for this? Or would you prefer to not have something like this pass?
I don’t care that they exist in other games that I play (it’s usually only goofy cosmetics that I don’t want anyway) but if they were to start locking real life liveries behind a battlepass I would be totally against it
I mean it would be even cooler if they would add the pass itself for free to reward the players that play often and regularly and give the other ones the opportunity to buy the stuff if they want it
A battle pass wouldn’t appeal at all to the players of TSW. Full stop. A subscription? Fair enough, as long as it doesn’t lock dlc behind a paywall A battle pass however is absolutely out the question… A battle pass references an entirely different game genre all together. This would never work for a laid back game like TSW
ah yes a battle pass. why not add loot boxes too. pay 20 and get a random DLC! lets join in on all the terrible ways to lock stuff behind so developers get more money instead of the current system that works fine. In all seriousness. battle passes lock content behind not only a paywall but also the amount of time you have to play, being there from day one and if you weren't in time, too bad. you get nothing or some of the random stuff of the first few stages. the actual cool thing it was about? maybe it will return later for way more money to just buy it or it will never be seen again. Getting more liveries in game is great. do you want that? get DTG to realize that their loco dlc packs they did in TSW3 and 4 is a good idea. I think it was 20 euro's for 3 loco's (sometimes reworked or new, some "just" a new livery) and they were added with some extra timetable services including all the substitutions they offered. I liked most of them but some people found them not very appealing. If you want liveries for free, we do still have creators club and modders about making a lot of stuff. I rather see route qualities improve and instead of one DB red loco we get the amount of liveries JustTrains manage to put in their routes. and instead of spending a monthly 15 euro's on a battle pass forcing me to play TSW when I maybe want to play other games. I'll happily see a 5 euro increase for the extra work of those DLC. I think after the Suffragette line the cost of living increase in DLC prices has balanced out again, especially since there is now less new rolling stock per route release and rarely a standalone loco DLC. (hello only Bmz and ÖBB 1116 for Semmeringbahn whilst after IC there are also RJ, EC, NJ and EN on that route, not even mentioning the wrong train for the CJX9...)
I feel bad for people that have only gamed mainly in the last 10 years, this is what they’ve been gaslit into wanting. Call it rose tinted glasses, but I miss the times when this industry wasn’t just about wringing consumers for every last penny.
Okok, I see then XD The idea was made and the council has decided to decline! But anyways thanks for your opinions on this
If I have to pay for a subscription for each game I own I’ll have to sell my kidney to play for a month.
As long as it doesn’t lock content behind it, I really wouldn’t mind a subscription service for this game. Like in TSC It’s not so useful for OG players like me, but Would be a good way to get new players to rack up their collection
Go back to War Thunder and Street Fighter 6, and take your "Battle pass" with you. No, it doesn't work. Zen Studios tried that with Pinball FX, and everybody had a mental breakdown, so they scrapped the token system in the end. The regular players didn't want it, and the new players completely ignored it.
why compare this? They are ENTIRELY different games….and one is 17 years old... Having a Subscription Service, like TSC, is not going to impact the game that much. In fact, it’ll actually help the new players who want to expand their collection. it wouldn’t even be that bad…
To be fair, I think if this pass is free and you can get new stuff (that is not tooo work intensive for DTG and reasonable enough to reward their players who play often) there is no point in not wanting it. And if you are not as quick and can’t complete it, you can simply buy the stuff. So there is no paywall other than the possibility to get stuff for free if you play enough.
yet another thread of people complaining about someone’s idea, which involves something that would absolutely not be a mandatory purchase. if people want it, people buy it.
Just because people don't have to buy it doesn't mean they can't have an opinion. The OP literally asked for people's thoughts on this and most said no so I don't get what your point is
Idk what people were expecting to be honest… When you combine something like that, on a forum like this, that is bound to happen.
Why would you want to include something that is by default free into a paid battle pass? This is a SIMULATION game, so in what world is a single player simulator having a battle pass? What are we battling? Paying $30+ USD for DLC is enough, let alone the $70 USD for the base game with 3 core routes. Why do you willingly want to spend more money for very little content? We already have these stickers and mastery challenges for free. I feel like every game I turn to theres a battle pass or subscription. Call of duty, battle pass. GTA V, subscription. Fortnite, battle pass. Overwatch, battle pass. All of these are multiplayer games. So why would we ever add this to a single player train simulator? Big fat no!
Pinball FX released in 2023. The Battle Pass was removed in 2024 after a major player backlash, which nearly killed the game and Zen Studios. Since you can't be bothered to use Google, please let me link you to the official statement by Zen Studios. https://www.pinballfx.com/?page_id=7115 Please do a bit of research before posting in future, and you'll look a little less like a clown.
ironic coming from someone who complained that a German train was in German… as I said before, completely different games, completely different player base, so it isn’t a fair comparison
my point is that there will be people who like it and people who don’t like it, so it seems unfair for the first reply to be someone completely dismissing the idea
What you describe already exists: mastery challenges but it's free Why pay for something that's already free? Also, spending money on things as small as liveries (which you can get for free) and stickers or mastery rewards (that you can also have for free) I find it a bit stupid and useless, we already spend a lot on the game itself. And as has already been said, simulator and battle pass will never go together, in general you play tsw to relax not to achieve a reward objective.
No, this is a bad practice designed to drive engagement via FOMO (fear of missing out) and doesn't fit at all into a train simulator game.
This would be a fun little experiment if the pass was free and the rewards were given to everyone (regardless of pass completion level) a few weeks later, so there’s just a little early access to the new content for those who put the effort in. But other than that, I don’t think TSW is the right game for this. Locking certain content behind a specific player type is always bad for simulators I believe. In this case, certain liveries would only be available to very dedicated players who spend a lot of time in the game. Likewise, I’m a still a bit salty that the DB IC cab car, something a ton of players have requested, is locked behind an expert add-on that doesn’t make sense financially for the average player at all.
This is a no from me. I play the game because I like driving trains and reliving my youth, not because I want to unlock liveries or anything like that.
and the opinion given completely dismissed the idea without giving others a chance to give their opinions
But the op literally asked for people's opinions. It makes no sense to complain about an opinion on this when the op literally asked for opinions. It being optional is completely irrelevant
but an opinion is not as relevant if it’s just someone saying ‘no’. there needs to be some basis to it
I don't think it's the worst idea if it's cosmetics only, but they'd really need to have their online infrastructure working better first IMO.
I heard you out mate, but more importantly I am ushering you out of the door! Definitely not an idea we want floating in DTG's heads.
Battle Passes work in multiplayer games because they need a certain amount of players online to offer a good experience. TSW isn't a multiplayer game, the number of people playing it simutaniously won't affect my gameplay experience. Therefor there's no need for DTG to entice me into playing a lot.
If you can't understand why someone wouldn’t want a battle pass in tsw based on what people have already said in this thread, then I don't know what to say
I’d pay for an all access type thing if I could play every route. I buy nearly every route anyway so it’s costly to play this game, if a subscription lowered my cost I’d be all for it. Gamepass has sold me on the idea that subscriptions can make sense in some situations but it always boils down to end price for me.
That’s why I mentioned a subscription to access all DLC as an option. Not a Battle Pass. Just an option where I could pay a price for a month and have access to all the DLC, while I could still buy them individually if I chose to. So the current business model would continue, with the addition of a subscription for all DLC. Much like Gamepass, where you pay $15 or so per month to have access to all those games for that month. Or you can just buy the games outright.
