The Unexpected Signals

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  1. ididntdoit

    ididntdoit Well-Known Member

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    Last night I was doing a run from Preston to Burn Naze and on approach to Poulton-le-Fylde I passed 2 clear signals. And to my surprise when the end of the platform come into view the signal was red. I was slowing for the speed restriction so luckily I stopped my train with only a couple of feet to spare. Anyway this got the adrenaline flowing and I was wondering if anyone else has had similar experiences on other routes?
     
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    Trainiac Well-Known Member

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    I get it with German routes. I think I’m quite good a judging what a signal is telling most times but other times a yellow signal just comes out of nowhere with a red too close for comfort. This is even more challenging if you’re driving with PZB in a train with a tap changer since in some you have to wait for the taps to run down before braking
     
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    ididntdoit Well-Known Member

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    Yes I have definitely been caught out with the German signals on many occasions. Although normally you get green, yellow then red, even if the distance between the warning and the stop signal is a bit close for comfort. Waiting for the rundown normally results in a spad.

    On this occasion though I had a green signal followed by a green distant followed by a red signal.
     
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    OldVern Well-Known Member

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    NTP was and still is a bit notorious for wrong side signalling setup, where you don't get a correct distant signal.
    Also IOW 2022 you get a clear distant with the associated section signal at danger.
     
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    Gilly Well-Known Member

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    AHH good old NTP
     
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    graham.haddon Well-Known Member

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    I believe that signal only shows red when you are scheduled to stop at that station and it's quite a slow speed restriction across the points.
    But whether it is correct or not I couldn't tell you.
     
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    lcyrrjp Well-Known Member

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    Yes, this often happens at this location on the Blackpool route (I’ve never known it anywhere else on that route, though). West Cornwall has the same problem and, as others have mentioned, so does Northern Transpennine.

    The issue seems to be particular to semaphore signals in TSD. With colour light signals I’ve had other issues (incorrect indications at junctions etc) but I don’t think I’ve ever had a red without a single yellow before it. It feels as if there must be some issue in the core with the way the game deals with semaphore signals, as otherwise it seems odd that three different developers - DTG, Rivet and Just Trains - have all produced routes with the same issue.
     
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    ididntdoit Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps that's what they mean by prepare for the unexpected.

    I got caught out on a US route also with green then red.

    I definitely see where it's the mixture of semaphore and colour signals (apart from us). I'm sure I've had an experience on sos where the colour signals displaying yellow followed by clear semaphores.
     
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    Unfortunately, approach control isn't completely set up correctly on most routes. The newer ones are much much better though. Its almost there, but some signals are forgotten about which require it. For example, MAC is the best route yet imo, but a few signals are missing this important aspect needed for ultra realism. Difficult task though with the myriad of junctions and different types of app control on that route. If driving hudless you can be completely surprised by a diverging route with no prior warning of the upcoming speed reduction. A big immersion killer for me.
     
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