The upcoming Santa Fe RR 1990s DLC Pack is exciting. The Santa Fe RR is one of my favorites. Plus, I grew up in the 1990s, and I would occasionally railfan on Cajon Pass on the way to Anaheim, CA and Disneyland. Here are my thoughts and opinions about the new ATSF 1990s pack. Part 1: Locomotives: I think that the two locomotives in the pack are pretty good ideas, but there are a few locos I think should have been added instead of these two. We're getting a Santa Fe Yellowbonnet SD40-2 and a Santa Fe Superfleet Warbonnet C40-8W. I think that the UP SD40-2 (Sherman Hill route needed) for UP trackage rights operations on Cajon Pass is a cool idea. I would have liked to see the following locos included: -GE C44-9W: Santa Fe rostered 100 of these big GEs, and BNSF currently has the largest roster of them (over 1600). -GE B40-8/B40-8W: 4-axle Dash 8s; the wide-cab versions wore Warbonnet paint, while the narrow-cab units wore Yellowbonnet paint. I love the B40-8Ws. I have a Lionel Santa Fe Warbonnet B40-8W that I run on my O-Gauge Layout. -EMD GP60-series: I would love to see all 3 versions of the GP60: GP60 Spartan Cab in Yellowbonnet livery, GP60M Wide-cab in Superfleet Warbonnet livery, and GP60B also in Warbonnet livery. The ATSF didn't roster the most GP60s, but their roster had all 3 variations. Also, the GP60 could be added in SP, UP, D&RGW, and NS liveries, as well as patched ATSF/BNSF and UP/SP or D&RGW patched liveries. -EMD SD75M: ATSF rostered 51 of these big 4300HP EMDs, and BNSF ordered more after the BN/ATSF merger. These locos were also painted in Warbonnet livery. Also, could we get the ATSF SD40-2 and C40-8W in ATSF-Patched BNSF liveries as well as BNSF Heritage liveries? BNSF still rosters both locomotives. Will we see the uprated 4150HP C41-8W? UP also rostered C40-8Ws/C41-8Ws, so maybe we could get a repainted UP Dash 8. SP/UP GP60s, UP/SP SD70Ms, SP/UP C44-9Ws, UP B40-8 narrow-cabs, etc. would be great to see on the route, too. -Rolling Stock: -Cement Hopper: very exciting! Finally, a cement hopper that we can use at Victorville's cement plant! -86' Auto-parts boxcar: Big boxcars; hopefully we could open the doors to see the loads inside. -3-Bay Grain Hopper: more variations of the grain hoppers included with the BNSF Cajon Pass route I wanted the DLC to include the following rolling stock: -89' intermodal flatcars; loaded and unloaded: perfect for fast intermodal trains -Coal hoppers in UP and ATSF liveries Will we get UP and SP liveried rolling stock too?
I think Cane Creek and Horseshoe Curve were okay. So what do you think about additional american freight from Skyhook?
I think that the SD45 would be awesome on Cajon. Santa Fe had rebuilt many of their flaired-radiator SD45s into SD45Us by the 1990s, and they were basically SD45-2s. Then we have the SD45-2, SDF40-2, F45, and FP45. The cowl units would be really cool to see, and they lasted into the early days of BNSF. A Santa Fe GP50, GP39-2, GP38u, GP30u, and GP35u would also be good choices for more ATSF power. Santa Fe did have GP7us, GP9us, and GP20us, along with rebuilt SD26s (formerly SD24s) in the 1990s as well. Some U-Boats and Dash-7s would be cool. Then we need Santa Fe #3751 for Cajon Pass. The 4-8-4 Northern was restored in 1991 and operated with ATSF C44-9Ws or FP45s in 1990s excursion services over Cajon Pass. She resides in San Bernardino. Of course, I hope we could get Amtrak layered onto Cajon Pass, but Amtrak's SW Chief arrives in Barstow early in the morning. For a 1990s Amtrak train, we'd need a P40DC Genesis, P32-8BWH, or F40PH.
Both are terrible and need fixing bad. Have you read the threads after release, there is alot wrong with both and nothing has been touched on either for a long time. Sounds are horrible on both CC still has floating rocks, reversed trucks on the locos, not the proper train cars that run on the route the radioactive ones. HSC is just mainly the sounds and scenery could be better but the sounds are horrible on the main loco. Skyhook seem to be focusing on gameplay packs and loco addons. The last route they made MML was released almost 2 years ago now.
The problem with adding Amtrak to existing freight routes is there wouldn't be a whole lot of extra gameplay. How often does the SW chief run a day? Once each direction. Same with Boston Worchester, Lakeshore Limited is only one train a day. SPG and HSC the Capitol Limited only 1 train a day. No Amtrak service at all in Wyoming so Sherman Hill would have nothing. Outside the NEC, there isn't much passenger service operated by Amtrak.
It looks very interesting. I like the auto parts cars being added ,hopefully they will be able to be used in formation and livery designer modes , the cement hopper i like also.. The locomotives are what i figured SF yellow and blue SD40 2 and warbonnet santa fe c40 8w they prob re work the csx c40 8w from SPG ,
Wait of you dont mind me asking what happened (if it's OK to share here)? I knew SS are making a route for SimRail but that's about it.
I've heard that ss wanted to be paid a large sum of money for the work they were doing but dtg were unable to deliver so the bridge got burned. Although I'm not entirely sure if it's true or not
Money was a issue (though suggesting it was a "large sum" is silly, we don't know) but the bigger issue was communication. I remember distinctly one of the members made a post basically saying DTG contacted them during TSW2's development, they replied back, only to take months till the next one, reply back, repeat, all just to get low balled. Can't find the post unfortunately, though just to prove that I'm not just pulling something random out of my butt there's this post from Anthony making reference to that issue. So that detail I can at least say with 100% certainty is true.
That's nonsense, come on now. There's lots of cross country service, much of it out of Chicago which also originates some shorter Midwest routes. Plus there's Amtrak in Florida and the South, and plenty of West Coast lines. And NEC isn't the only East Coast route. Did you really think about this post?
No there isnt dude look look up the schedules most Amtrak routes from Chicago are 1 train daily. It take 2 days to go from Chicago to California, or Texas. Passenger rail is almost dead in the USA. The routes from Washinton DC to Florida twice a day. That is it. Seriously read up on it and see train services is almost non existant outside of NEC with Amtrak.
Well, all I can say is you're completely out in left field. And Amtrak is posting record numbers, including the new service from Chicago to Minneapolis. And it doesn't matter how frequently the long distance services run. They are mostly sold out. Shorter runs like Chicago to Milwaukee run more frequently every 1-2 hours. But you obviously won't be persuaded, so let's leave it there.
SimRail has a timetable per server and you actually have to manage it when dispatching, and inform neighbouring signallers of delays etc. It is a multiplayer experience in the first place, so save games make no sense. You let the AI take over if you need a break, the timetable keeps running without you. Just like the real railroad. It's more a live sim than a game. https://edr.simrail.app/en1/station/JU
So the difference between a game and simulator isn't what you actually do in the game, but whether or not you can choose a time and date in the menu and the presence of a savegame function? That's one of the weirder ways in which I've seen someone try and sell a limitation as a feature. My guess is that the reason that they don't offer a good single-player experience because they haven't figured out the timetable simulation/data track system that TSW uses, or a suitable alternative to it.
It could be but I would have to change cab model because the ATSF GE C40-8W on the top of the Cab that looks like a triangle is like an ear going down. I don't think the ATSF had the CSX GE C40-8W versions, the Cab part is a complete triangle going down, although I would have liked to see the ATSF EMD SD45-2 because you see a lot of EMD SD40-2 from past Routes. although if they make them with a Long Nose the EMD SD40-2 would be different I would like to hear the Leslie RS3L Horn on both Locomotives
If we get western or southwestern US Amtrak routes, it would have to be the Cascades Line, Pacific Surfliner, or Amtrak California. The Siemens Charger or P42DC could be layered onto Cajon. The Chicago area with Amtrak Midwest would be cool. I'd prefer a Metra/BNSF Racetrack route. Amtrak runs both long-distance and Midwest trains on the route, along with BNSF freights and Metra Commuter.
I hope they can put proper horns too which were leslie RS3L ,The only RS3L in TSW is on the NS GP38 2 on skyhooks HSC route the DTG GP38 2 models in SPG Cajon etc have a K3 or k5la ,the SPG C40 8W has a nathan K5la ,High Iron Simulation s horns in TSC not the best the Chessie System GP40 2 on their TSC Mountain Sub has a awful sounding k3 like horn , but in game and in real life the chessie GP40 2 s have old cast nathan K5la horn ,chessie system was the first freight rr to use k5la horns back in mid 1970s, Amtrak also started using k5LAs in mid to late 70s also
the triangle shaped c40 8w santa fe had were refered to as gull wing cabs they were done that way by request as the c40 8w s were used in coal service on Raton Pass some of mines loading schutes were shaped like this so reportedly they had the gull wing cabs due to shape and clearances at some coal loaders ..if anyone knows more about this you can chime in,,
While that's a nice wishlist, this is just a gameplay pack- in other words, DTG are not going to develop new locos at this price point. We get new liveries and a timetable.
