Train Life

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  1. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    Anyone following this game? It is currently in early access on steam but I noticed Colonel Failure playing it so I gave it a watch.

    People have been saying the game is like a cross over between TSW and Euro Truck. The Graphics to me look good and on par with TSW if not better. The tutorial they are showing starts in Germany but it is stated when the full game gets released it will include other regions. The game is states you will be able to travel all over Europe, hopefully that includes the UK.

    Could this be competition for TSW2? I think it could be if the minor bugs are sorted and has a variety of regions, what you think?
     
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    I don't think this is the direct competitor. SimRail is.
     
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  3. OldVern

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    The description in one of the reviews sounds like an iPad/Android tablet train game clone, zero physics and simple controls.

    I don't think DTG have anything to worry about.
     
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  4. The SimTrain Tube

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    Not going to be a competitor I think, graphics IMHO look worse then TSW, then there's the signals that look like normal traffic lights for on the road.

    There's also some very steep grades like the track is following a hill.
    Also the locomotive that I saw looked like a fantasy shunting loco, and apparently you can only couple wagons on the rear of it.

    Could be a fun game, just not for me.
     
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  5. Oystein

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    Looks like very simple physics, so it isn't a train simulator at this point. Tracks looks so much better than in TSW (render distance)
     
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    Flinging this over to off-topic.
     
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  7. 7orenz

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    A hybrid between Transport Fever and a fully arcade Train Simulator. If they put in the weapons and equipment, there is still time to turn into a battle royal with a pinch of management strategy. :D
     
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  8. KoeleKoen

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    People who buy this like it's a simulator and then rant in reviews smh.. It's basically transport fever but you drive the trains, i'm enjoying it for what it is, a fun management game, if i want a sim i use tsw, if i feel like yeetin some cargo and lvl up cities i play this
     
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  9. Yerolo

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    Ive watched a few streams...it heavily reminds me of Derail Valley in terms of gameplay.

    The simulation aspect is quite arcade-y to the point where I think they should remove the word Simulation from its title.
     
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  10. OldVern

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    Though Derail Valley is quite deep when it comes to the simulation, with good physics and interaction with the trains and infrastructure. I haven’t played it for some time but looking forward to revisiting when the upgrade with diurnal cycles goes live.
     
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  11. dhekelian

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    Looks like Colonel Failure likes it. The game definitely has a few issues like with signalling but then the game is in early access. All these games are 'arcadey' even TSW2 to a certain extent.
     
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    It is not really a simulator, but more arcade game like. The amount of realism is fairly low, but you may like it as a management game. I really enjoyed Colonel Failure play it it. You will not like it if:

    - You complain about buggy locos and wagons in TSW2
    - Signalling issues in TSW2
    - Safety systems in TSW2
    - Scenery quality in TSW2
    - Physics in TSW2

    If you like lots of track and delivering goods or passengers to other locations, you may like it. You also can drive long distances, but do expect any realism. You may though see they are inspired by names of existing German cities.
    On al these aspects Train Life is not very good. Let's see how it develops. Personally, I am not interested.
     
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    I watched a video where the player pressed a key and some wagons appeared coupled to the train, then he had to go into a menu to magically turn the train around to point in the right direction. I turned the video off after that and promised myself never to look at the game ever again. That’s not how trains work.
     
  14. ARuscoe

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    This is NOT a simulation game, more a tycoon type game and has serious flaws.
    There is no "dispatcher", the signals relate to whether the speed limit increases or not and they've removed ALL AI trains because they've not managed to distinguish between the two lines in a segment (so if a train's coming the other way the game penalises you for being in the same track segment)
    DO be aware that if you've watched the Colonel Failure vids he was playing on an old version (presumably he records loads of vids at once then puts them out over a few days). the latest version has no AI to avoid the constant penalties Sam was getting
     
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    Is it available on Xbox ?
     
  16. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure. I saw it on steam but it would be a good fit for the XBox, could get it on my series S if it were...........
     
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    I've got about 10 hours of gameplay on this. Imo it feels like a ETS2 meets trains. Yes it's not exactly a "simulator" in terms of simulating irl physics, starting up the train and using safety systems but it's great for those who perhaps don't want anything to do with that and just want to get in the train and drive it easily. There's quite a bit in terms of managing your train company again feeling like ETS2 where you can manage drivers, overview of your company, view contracts and upgrade your train with various components.

    A lot of complaints so far are aimed at the signalling and AI traffic, which they recently disabled. The route pathing is a bit weird too, making you switch to different parts of the track which you probably don't need to. Their roadmap is extremely ambitious imo with mentioning London (and 4 other regions) as being a new map in the next update but seems to be no UK like trains to come with it. If you intend to buy it don't expect anything that's irl. If you want realism stick to TSW, if you want to relax and haul various freight/passenger service using different fictional loco, creating and expanding your own company, then train life is for you.
     
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  18. schorni

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    As always, it depends on what you expect. Train Life offers me just the right variety to TSW. Just sit in the train and drive. As already noted, it is more like Transport Fever to drive yourself, only without construction mode. Instead of PZB, Sifa or ATC you have to take care of your own company. Buy locomotives, maintain the locomotives, hire staff, find orders ect. I think this is very well done and it occupies a niche without real competition. And above all, it came out of nowhere. You have not heard before that something like this is in development.
    Sure, not everything is perfect, it is Early Access, but already in better condition than some other game or DLC that is sold as finished. And for the price you call up with 15 euros, it is in my opinion very cheap, if you also consider what still everything comes in. Honestly, it's a mystery to me how you can do that at this price.

    With the enormous route network it is logical that not everything can correspond to the real model. I'm already curious how other regions will differ visually. And you can drive completely through them. For example, from Hamburg to Munich. I'm willing to put up with the simpler presentation for that.
    And the game can certainly look nice....
     
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    It's god awful, not a simulator in the slightest.
     
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  21. stijn.claessens

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    I enjoy Sam's streams of train life. Not sure if it is for me ( signals not realistic is a no for me)
     
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    Sam is streaming Train Life? Where can you find that?
     
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    HERE
     
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  24. dhekelian

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    Still a few bugs to be sorted especially passenger routes watching Colonel Failure's video. He did drive a train at night though and looked better than TSW2 imo.
     
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    The lighting in game CAN be excellent. I was driving at dawn and the sun coming brightly through the treetops (including rays) was great. But the detail level on the trains and lineside assets is much much less than TSW
     
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    It isn't designed to be a simulator in that regards though
     
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    Apart from 'simulator' in the tile.
     
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    Railway simulator doesn't necessarily mean train driving simulator
    Not saying it's a good "simulator of anything" but it's not a train sim as much as a train company / operations / tycoon type game
     
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    Simulator to me means based as accurately as possible on reality.
     
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    That doesn't answer the question of "what is the simulator simulating"?
     
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    This game doesn't simulate anything, well it simulates itself technically so maybe that's what the devs meant when they called it a simulator?
     
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    it kind of does, but then no "game" simulates anything in reality so you're right
     
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    You're living inside a simulation Mr. Anderson.
     
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    something like that. Luckily there's no woman in the red dress littering the platform, though plenty of twins in the background, so maybe they did take inspiration...
     
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    I have only seen a few videos but I thought the graphics were a bit crisper and it didn't stutter so much but then I wouldn't trust my eyes that much, lol.

    I see people are having a go at Train Life for not being a sim. It is right to say a simulator should reflect real life. Any game can claim to be a sim it just depends how good or bad they are. PES claims to be a football sim but doesn't have one of the most basic laws in the game, handball.

    TSW2 is supposed to be a train sim but there are things missing like stations on incomplete routes or not enough traffic in the game. I'm not having a go at TSW2 I am pointing out sims have different levels of accuracy and what the player wants. After if it totally reflected real life it would stop being a sim and be reality but no sim will get that close..........Or will they? hahaha
     
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    It stutters more than TSW... a lot more
    Some of the graphics are great, others less so
    The trains "aren't real trains" and the track layout "isn't the real track layout", so it's not trying for any form of realism

    Again, depends on what they are trying to simulate. TSW is a train driving sim game with attempts to make things realistic around this.
    Train life is more of a tycoon game with elements of train driving, contract control etc but it fails in lots of areas. What it does do is give a fairly mindless way of passing the time

    But agreed, I don't think any sim will get that close to real life, because train simulation is a complex beast and there will almost always be something amiss
     
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  37. stijn.claessens

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    I saw the game has now been given a major update. (UK included, return of AI,...) Anyone else had a go since the latest update?
     
  38. dhekelian

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    The game has positive reviews, mostly anyway. The update apparently has improved things a great deal and the game is still in early access so looks promising imo.

    As ARuscoe says it isn't a full blown sim but has other things in the game TSW2 doesn't. I have always felt TSW2 is lacking like a 'career mode' for those that want it. Just to have something extra than going from A to B all the time. This game might provide that, be worth keeping an eye on.
     
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    Is it / will it be available on Xbox ? If so then when ?
     
  40. dhekelian

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    I have only seen it on steam. I'm not sure if it is available on XBox, might be not sure.
     
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    It is not really a simulator, but more arcade game like.

    The amount of realism is fairly low, but you may like it as a management game.

    I really enjoyed Colonel Failure play it it.

    You will not like it if:

    - You complain about buggy locos and wagons in TSW2
    - Signalling issues in TSW2
    - Safety systems in TSW2
    - Scenery quality in TSW2
    - Physics in TSW2

    If you like lots of track and delivering goods or passengers to other locations, you may like it.

    You also can drive long distances, but do expect any realism.

    You may though see they are inspired by names of existing German cities.

    On al these aspects Train Life is not very good.

    Let's see how it develops.

    Personally, I am not interested.
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