Train Sim World 2 - Br Class 313 Emu Out Now!

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  1. DTG Jamie

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  2. Mat_Jam_Ca

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    Refuse to buy at the current time until the PS5 issues are addressed. This is a train I desperately want in my collection, so I’m hoping I can add it sooner rather than later.
     
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    等特價再入手
     
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    Still no reason given as to the removal of loco only add-ons not receiving Achievements...
     
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  5. Skyz2020

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    Parity with other platforms...maybe.. will be interesting to see if all platforms get trophies for wcl...
     
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  6. BBIAJ

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    They're already in there for Xbox One platforms, as I've already unlocked the tutorial one, so I assume it's the same on PC, I've no idea as to what the situation will be on PS4/5.
     
  7. Trainmania100

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    Great unit, enjoying it very much. Just wish there were more ECS moves on the BML but I guess there aren't that many in real life.
     
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  8. dhekelian

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    Have the sound issues been fixed?
     
  9. saltychipz#3569

    saltychipz#3569 Well-Known Member

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    I completely agree
     
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  10. saltychipz#3569

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    Make a separate thread
     
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  11. saltychipz#3569

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    Looks great , I’ll get it soon
     
  12. saltychipz#3569

    saltychipz#3569 Well-Known Member

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    I’m playing this now , and I have to say , bugs aside , this is possibly better than the 465 ! Good work dtg , worth every penny so far
     
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  13. dhekelian

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    What bugs have you come across?
     
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    The physics , the aws , the dsd , the lag . All things that can be fixed though
     
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  15. dhekelian

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    The aws? Ah man, what is wrong with that, I thought it was just the DSD?
     
  16. saltychipz#3569

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    Sometimes it isn’t acknowledging . Might just be my old controller though
     
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  17. fabristunt

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    How can these two messages have been written by the same person?
     
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  18. appledates#4945

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    Glad to hear people are enjoying it! I like what I saw from the preview stream. Can’t wait to get out of work and pick this up!
     
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  19. saltychipz#3569

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    Because , I said if you ignore the bugs , then it is a great loco . Maybe read messages in more detail
     
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  20. Cramnor

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    Honestly, if we ignore the bugs, every TSW2 route is absolutely amazing :D Not really sure what your message is though
     
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  21. fabristunt

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    I can read, that's why I'm puzzled!
     
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  22. saltychipz#3569

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    That if dtg took more time before each release to eliminate most bugs , the routes would indeed be amazing
     
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  23. DeStijl

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    Lots of things are amazing if you ignore all of the flaws in those things.
     
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  24. junior hornet

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    So, basically, Playstation can’t get achievements/trophies so the rest of us have to suffer as well. Thanks for that. It’s a pass for me.
     
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  25. saltychipz#3569

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    But often in TSW the flaws are hard to ignore . It’s quite easy to know when your game crashes
     
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  26. Dinger75

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    Would love to get this but until DTG get the PS5 issues sorted so I don't have to delete other TSW content to play this, it's a no buy
     
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    Don't you know time is money,dtg taking time to get anything right would cost them money.Anyway there players here who will buy any new dlc no matter how broken they all know it gonna be,which tells dtg that broken dlc doesn't bother enough players to cause them to worry about getting it right until waaaaaaayyyyyy later.You get what you pay for in this case broken dlc...So thank you to all the players who give dtg know reason to get better or get it right the frist time.What would the rest of us do without you.O that right maybe get new dlc that less broken ,but that might be asking waaaaaayyyyy to much.
     
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  28. saltychipz#3569

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    But if dtg get a dlc right , then it’ll be better and more people will buy it , and dtg will make more money
     
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  29. dhekelian

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    Can't argue with that. I know about deadlines but DTG seem to impose them on themselves. I wish they could realise but doing so only causes more problems further down the line. Engine update and Rush Hour are prime examples.

    I have no problem with DLC coming our every week but it has to playable.
     
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  30. londonmidland

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    Sorry to be the one to point out the obvious, but issues with the physics is a major flaw to me and is already my first red flag with this product.

    Also, there's no guarantee it'll be fixed. Especially if it affects the timetable timings.
     
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  31. SHINO BAZ

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    You know it's funny dtg would pull west cornwall when clearly people still bought it even after they said they where gonna pull out of stores(Because it took time to get it removed from some stores).It shows pulling it out might not have effectived sales either way.
     
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  32. Southern Driver

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    The AWS I think is taken from the Class 314 and I’m fairly sure is inaccurate for the GTR 313 as I’m fairly sure they have the more modern ping instead of old fashioned style bell.
     
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    Wrong Name for the Button in German.
    It need to call DSD and not DRA B1A91B96-5EF9-43D8-AE3F-F6836FA3FD7F.jpeg
     
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  34. meridian#2659

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    There is also a dra function, are you sure its connected to dsd?

    In dra on mode you cant accelerate, should prevent from spad a signal.
     
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    Yes Matt show the Button in the Stream.
    It’s wrong in German
     
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    I've driven the 313 quite a bit this evening and on the whole I'm pleased with it. As someone who used to commute on them and have been in the cab several times (in a professional capacity), I think they have done a reasonable job on the sounds - not perfect but they are complex in real life. The main things I'd improve are that it seems to start moving too quickly from a stand and you can't hear the air hiss when you release the brakes, which should be fairly loud. The brake release sounds are there but almost inaudible - same on the 314 - so shouldn't be too difficult to fix.
     
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    PEP design like 314 315 25kv50hz 507/508 750v DC Third rail Top Contact. In the future we might get the Network Rail 313 for this route BML and 25kv 50hz overhead contact system routes in the UK
     
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    Sound police here: Can someone explain why it is so hard to put the wipers audio in this loco? Will the wipers ever get audio? Is there no audio checklist before you ship?
     
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    This is a small reminder to keep your comments towards other users courteous. Everyone is permitted to have their opinion no matter which side of an argument they're on.
     
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    Anyone else had random explosive derailments in the 313?

    Slowing down into Moulescombe on my first run last night and without warning it just jumped off the tracks and flipped over!
     
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    For those who bought the Class 313 how do you compare it in terms of quality against a Class 465?
     
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    It's very nice, that we have the New Haven Marine services now. And hopefully, there will be an update for getting the 313 and the other services for gen8 consoles at BML.
     
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    I would have to say they are both on quite an equal level in terms of the model, but I would have to rate the 465 around a point or 2 higher in terms of sounds (I do use series x so that could be part of the problem in that regard) overall I would still recommend the 313 as one of the best loco dlcs to release to so far
     
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    I saw Matt's stream last night and overall I was quite pleased with it. As I know very little about the train itself I saw a few youtube videos on train rides on real 313, and boy they are noisy, lol.
     
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    It's better. The DSD button issue is the only negative thing. The trophy issue is not a thing for me. Because I play for the driving experience not for trophy statistics.
     
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    Sony is just as much to blame if not more than DTG. They are the ones with the brains to put a cap on DLC for the PS5 when they have never done that for any other console before.

    So if you think about it Sony is the one who has said sorry your game model doesn't work for us. And so far isn't playing ball on working with DTG for a solution to the problem they caused.

    And in order to fix it pemanently sounds like a full rebuild will need to be done. So that will take time and is not just a push button fix.

    It sucks but those people on Xbox Series X and PC don't have any caps in their DLC. So why do we? In my opinion it should be Sony fixing the issue not DTG as it is not their fault.
     
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    I would have agreed with you totally but why does DTG feel the need to say that only new DLC on the Xbox and PC will get achivements and not Loco DLC. I'm aware that some people are getting them on steam but some have also been saying these are disappearing so it looks like all future Loco DLC's won't be getting it like which was said in the announcements.
     
  48. Skyz2020

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    Wider forward thinking could be to downsize the estate in the 6 months.

    PC/Next Gen only, then remove all trophies and focus on a more TS1 style workshop approach

    A theory not a fact, butter is spread a bit thin at present
     
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  49. bakedpotatos.jm

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    But again thats Sony putting limits on trophies now. Xbox doesn't have the same restrictions with their achievements so that again is a Sony policy not DTG. They would love to give trophies but Sony has capped those as well. For them to take trophies out for one platform and not the others means more work on DTG's end so I'm pretty sure its not something they are doing.

    But that is also a separate issue than the DLC cap that DTG once again have to fix or Sony to allow them more because the game is designed different than most.

    It seems like Sony is trying to cap rewards for it's players. I don't understand what the thinking is with them.
     
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    One of the really dumb things about limiting dlc storage space on the PS5 by sony is the fact that a huge number of game makers can make a lot of extra money off dlc,so limiting storage affects waaaayyy more then just dtg.I guess sony doesn't care if they make any extra money off dlc,Since when did sony decide that "greed was bad" gordon gecko would be disappointed in them.
     
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