Train Sim World 2 - New Traxx

Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG Natster, Oct 14, 2021.

  1. antwerpcentral

    antwerpcentral Well-Known Member

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    Why not? What is missing? Okay I know the engine sound is not the original sound. But it is nothing I'm able to notice. It's not that I had this "wait a minute, I know this engine sound" moment.
     
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  2. DB628

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    but not the accurate lights like on the photo, it’s a bug
     
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  3. solicitr

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    It isn't the sound of a 187; the mod is a remix of 185 sound. The author says quite openly he has no way to record a real 187.
     
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    Sam talked at some length aboput this- he couldn't figure out the light controls. Operator error, not a bug.
     
  5. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    I think you are conflating two things, re my earlier post. Covid is not a "cheap excuse" when it comes to not being able to record a real 187. It very much was the genuine reason.

    That said, Skyhook can be faulted for what they chose to do after that eventuality: as you say, not finding a better solution than the broken old 185 sounds, and not telling anyone.
     
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  6. Lamplight

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    No, it isn‘t. The wrong lights are active - the lower two lights are the white marker lights, not the upper two as Skyhook modeled it.
     
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  7. pwarner893

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    I'm not a particularly huge German rail fan although they are my favourite routes in TSW and during Sam's stream I immediately recognised the reused sounds.
     
  8. AlexEnGame

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    His never answering :))
     
  9. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    It seems to me that this is an object lesson in lack of transparency, and managing expectations- not just for Skyhook, but for DTG and other 3rd parties as well. Skyhook has been absolutely lambasted, the DLC nuked in Steam reviews, and sales almost certainly demolished- all because they chose not to be upfront.

    If Skyhook well before release had simply come out and said - or relayed via DTG - something to the effect of "Due to COVID we have not been able to get 187 sound recordings; we're very sorry and will patch in the correct sounds as soon as they come available", I doubt any of this firestorm of anger and vitriol would have developed. Especially if they had then made sure to have a representative present at the preview stream to catch flak.
     
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  10. t.reizner35

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    Anyone else noticed the bug with the Afb on Xbox? Absolutelly undriveable it accelarates to maximum speed and you always get wheelspin even at low power. Its a shame!
     
  11. antwerpcentral

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    Yup I can understand. If you can hear the difference it can be immersion breaking. I like German railways as they almost look like the trains in my country.
     
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  12. Observadorpt

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    Hi
    I dont gonna buy anymore dlc for tsw so this loco doesnt matter to me. I probably only gonna buy 1338 tube stock nothing more and probably on a sale if there are gonna be one.
     
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  13. LWDAdnane

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    I can't help but imagine a train in 1338 being made entirely out of wood and being run by the conductor's feet, like the Flinstones.
     
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  14. DB628

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    The Headlights don’t working because it’s the same effects in the dark. If it’s turning off
     
  15. kosti.nuuja

    kosti.nuuja Well-Known Member

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    Why Skyhook decided to reuse the worst loco sounds of the whole game? I can’t understand. If they decided instead to use the BRD 185.5 sounds, the loco would be at least more driveable, although the sounds are still inaccurate.
     
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  16. docsnyder1911

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    I like that in all 187 scenarios the freight yards ar filled with freight cars. But why in timetable mode the freight yards are completely empty as before?
     
  17. Richard CZE

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    I also expected the new services to use the freight station and the addition of wagons. It is a pity that services do not have much diversity.
     
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  18. docsnyder1911

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    I hope the preserved team from DTG will add some more freight life to the yards in timetable mode of SKA like they did it with the Rush Hour Update on WSR.
     
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    Originally they said that they keep the yards empty for later DLCs to make use of them. Now there is said DLC that is advertised as making use of them, but it sounds like that is not the case, strange to hear and disappointing :(
     
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  20. kosti.nuuja

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    Yikes…
     
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  21. MYG92

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    That will gonna help Scamhook reputation for sure :D
     
  22. kosti.nuuja

    kosti.nuuja Well-Known Member

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    Maybe we can never expect perfect TRAXX locos for TSW2. We have just got the new, updated 146.2 and 185.5 alongside BRD. After a long time of waiting, we have finally got two good TRAXX locos, and they aren’t still 100% usable on all routes. If you pick up a cab car operated service on MSB for example, the old and inaccurate version of 146.2 is hauling the train. The 185.2 is still pretty bad due to broken sounds and inaccurate physics. The 187 is a true fiasco.
     
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    Sparmi
    DB BR 187 it can't be used on Munich - Aachen route either.
    But of course you can do it on them using Scenario Planner as I did

    > Rapid Transit:

    In this case, due to platform length you can only run the locomotive without freight cars.
    Which I run it as a locomotive location transfer, which happens on real world.
    (May be not specifically on this route, but is a nice route to drive it anyway )
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    BR187 - RAPID TRANSIT - 2.JPG
    BR187 - RAPID TRANSIT - 1.JPG

    > Munich - Augsburg:

    BR187 - ON MUNICH AUBSBURG -2.JPG
    BR187 - ON MUNICH AUBSBURG -1.JPG

    In this case at the time I run it - last week - it was only that consist available.
    I mentioned that on another post, and DTG has fixed it with several different consists available now.
    Thanks for that DTG!
     
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  28. solicitr

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    OK, a question for those German members who are familiar with the real 187: which of the dueling sound mods is closer to correct?
     
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  29. Bvhleken

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    Man, what a messup ...
    LZB display not functioning
    Seating position to high
    Headlights aren't correct
    AFB not working correctly (AFB is applying full throttle regardless of throttle set percentage)
    PZB 70 is white when passing 1000hz magnet
    LZB/PZB Release not working on LZB End.
    The parking brake activates itself automatically after e-brake
    MFD shows power is available while pantograph is on the roof and circuit breaker is open
    PZB in cabin 1 not functioning in "forward" position" ...
    Dont Buy This LOCO, is complete rubish ...
     
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  30. irFlouz

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    I feel weird saying this as the creator of one of the mods but according to some people over at rail-sim.de, my mod sounds better. You better try them out yourself though, as everyone has a different opinion.
    I know I'm late, but that is wrong. The mod isn't a remix of the 185, the sounds were recorded by myself and an other person from a 147 (which sounds almost exactly the same). I don't know where you got that from, at the point of that video mentioned in here I didn't have the 187 DLC (I have it now thanks to someone from the community), that's why I did it on a 185. Still everything is and was, since the beginning, original TRAXX 3 sounds.
     
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  31. solicitr

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    Entschuldigung; ich habe es missverstanden.
     
  32. Noel06

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    Ehrenmann. Einfach so mal auf Deutsch geantwortet
     
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  33. stimp#5938

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    Are you going to address the long list of bugs, faults and missing achievement/trophy in writing? Or did I miss that?
     
  34. bakedpotatos.jm

    bakedpotatos.jm Well-Known Member

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    If Skyhook follows suit with Cane Creek it will be months before we see any update.

    Still waiting for the fixes on that route.

    DTG really need to start QC'ing what the 3rd parties are developing because the 2 of them right now have been very poor when it comes to fixing their bugs.

    I was glad to see them step in on the West Cornwall Local and put a hold on it. I know they don't want to have to be big brother and just let the 3rd parties do what they do. But the quality really needs improving and the timing of bug fixes needs to be addressed so it seems they have to check in more often and see the progress themselves.

    Hopefully that is what will happen going forward, at least it seems they thought this route isn't up to our standards we need to step in here. At least that was the impression I got on the Stream they did after putting the brakes on WCL.
     
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  35. Lamplight

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    I think the entire approach of letting 3rd parties do things how they please was flawed from the beginning considering that
    • they‘re bound by DTG‘s pricing policy
    • players expect at least DTG quality and DLC size (route lenght, features and details in locos, etc)
    With these specific restrictions in place, DTG should have taken more active steps from the get go since 3rd parties were never truly free to do things how they want in the first place.

    Just my 2 cents :)
     
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  36. Cramnor

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    Would anyone of those who own the 187 mind sharing some screenshots of the updated decals here? I am curious to see what has been done along those lines with the update that was announced today, thanks a lot :)
     
  37. CowBoyWolf

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    Tbh not much just the 160 replaced with 140 and instead of it says DB regio it now says DB cargo
     
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  38. Fitz

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    So no fix for the broken AFB and the headlight setting is still wrong?
     
  39. CowBoyWolf

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    Nope
     
  40. Richard CZE

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    And they fixed the sound?
     
  41. irFlouz

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    Nope, not yet.
     
  42. grdaniel48

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    As it was informed on the update by DTG, only some decals on the frame and sides - like DB Regio , the wrong or different numbers from the side comparing with front and rear ends I had reported - and some issues about the pantograph and the screen.

    Despite of that, they mentioned, they are working with Skyhook in order to fix the main issues, like the sound, and other ones.
    So that are good news, this really nice designed locomotive should deserves to be as the real one!
     
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  43. conniethunder

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    Whether it's DTG or Skyhook to thank, I think the 'Hate Hammer' should be lifted for a while to see what updates come next.
    At least things ARE being worked on, proven by todays update.
     
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  44. bakedpotatos.jm

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    And if you are unsure then wait until the update is released and streamed before you buy like I am doing.
     
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