Train Sim World 2 - On The Way To St Ives

Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG Natster, Sep 29, 2021.

  1. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2020
    Messages:
    825
    Likes Received:
    828
    Been following this thread and even though I know very little about the route am keen on getting it. Saying that in some of the pics compared to Rivets offerings looked a bit disappointing but I don't think we should totally condemn them as we have had Rivet on here saying they will improve things, I hope they have taken onboard what Londonmidland showed them as it would definitely benefit the route.

    The HST has been mentioned and imo would be ideal to add as a layer even in it's current form and why not take advantage of it already being in the game. Has anyone got a pic of the HST as it would of looked back then in the right era? Love to see what it would look like.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  2. Lunar_Twisted

    Lunar_Twisted Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2019
    Messages:
    219
    Likes Received:
    364
     
    • Like Like x 3
  3. saltychipz#3569

    saltychipz#3569 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2021
    Messages:
    2,461
    Likes Received:
    1,794
    I agree with what you’ve said , I’m pretty sure I’m going to buy this but the stream on Friday will be my final decision . I also imagine it’ll cost £24.99
     
    • Like Like x 2
  4. CK95

    CK95 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2019
    Messages:
    1,222
    Likes Received:
    3,253
    Interesting video, pretty sure this is the Matt that people have been complaining about since the 38 stock stream (didn’t watch that one), in this video he is pretty informative and gives us a good overview of modelling the trains within TSW.

    I also get the vibe that Rivet seem pretty invested in the 150, with all the info they are putting out about it which does give me confidence in the unit itself, I’ve seen some complaints about the route (obviously) but personally this DLC for me is all about the 150, it’s really going to bring a side of TSW that we’ve missed, because apart from the 101 we really don’t have any DMU’s and they’re unique in their own way, they bring an experience to TSW in that alot of British Railway was and still is ran by these types of rolling stock.

    One observation I do have is how clean the unit is, but then most the trains in TSW are.

    Really can’t wait to see more on the 150.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  5. Lunar_Twisted

    Lunar_Twisted Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2019
    Messages:
    219
    Likes Received:
    364
    Yes you're correct. That's the Matt everyone was talking about. The design of the Class 150 does look outstanding.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  6. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2019
    Messages:
    212
    Likes Received:
    455
    I've found this video on YouTube, Penzance in 1990, A couple of years out but this a good example of the rolling stock seen at the time.

     
    • Like Like x 4
  7. dave from Cornwall

    dave from Cornwall Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2020
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    584
    Again not of the period, but from Saturday morning.

    Two castle classes (43's) side by side in Truro, and the Falmouth train making an appearance.
     

    Attached Files:

    • Like Like x 5
  8. dave from Cornwall

    dave from Cornwall Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2020
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    584
    I think its sad that the sidings to the left hand side is now a carpark... :(
     
    • Like Like x 2
  9. LWDAdnane

    LWDAdnane Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2021
    Messages:
    161
    Likes Received:
    143
    Beautiful pics
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. djcwey

    djcwey Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2019
    Messages:
    307
    Likes Received:
    548
    Imagine the uproar from the community if the Met-Cam was used on yet ANOTHER route! The Class 117 would be welcome though - could even be used out of Paddington in the 1970's? Lasted on St Ives branch into the mid 90's.

    http://www.cornwallrailwaysociety.org.uk/st-ives-branch.html
     
    • Like Like x 2
  11. Tank621

    Tank621 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2020
    Messages:
    377
    Likes Received:
    685
    A new first-gen unit would be an awesome loco-add on for the route, for sure.
     
  12. meridian#2659

    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2021
    Messages:
    266
    Likes Received:
    356
    Still hope for any surprise in terms of rolling stock.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. Challenger3985

    Challenger3985 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2018
    Messages:
    619
    Likes Received:
    892
    What surprise, there will be just 2 different ballast wagons for the 37/5 to pull:
    Not much else in terms of rolling stock for WCL.
     
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2021
  14. alexjjones6024

    alexjjones6024 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2020
    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    227
    Just remember the rush hour release and there was additional AI. The AI was not announced until 1 week before the release, every chance this could be arranged, though it probably won't...
     
  15. CK95

    CK95 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2019
    Messages:
    1,222
    Likes Received:
    3,253
    Honestly I’m surprised we haven’t seen another since the onslaught of Electrostars this year has wiped it from the top spot.
     
  16. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2020
    Messages:
    825
    Likes Received:
    828
    The 117 is a good shout for an addition.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  17. Warspite

    Warspite Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2016
    Messages:
    102
    Likes Received:
    239
    • Like Like x 1
  18. alexjjones6024

    alexjjones6024 Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2020
    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    227
    • Like Like x 2
  19. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2020
    Messages:
    825
    Likes Received:
    828
    It would be nice if we could get more different Loco's. The 117 would be great but I like the 101 as well. Did the 121 see any action on this line? Loved that DMU.
     
  20. phillip.good

    phillip.good Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2020
    Messages:
    111
    Likes Received:
    165
    Weirdly enough, this would actually be a better route to run Deisel Legends on than GWE was!
     
    • Like Like x 2
  21. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2020
    Messages:
    825
    Likes Received:
    828
    Not sure I agree. Diesel Legends was supposed to be set in the seventies and going just from Bristol - Paddington there weren't many busier routes for Diesels I would assume. But then DTG only gave us less than a third of the GWE route so perhaps you're right.
     
  22. meridian#2659

    meridian#2659 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2021
    Messages:
    266
    Likes Received:
    356
    We get 2 new freight wagons, so better than 0. Im sure rivet is making this right.

    What i ment with surprises is, that we maybe get any 47 or hst layers for the main line. Or few shunting operations like in a class 08.
    Wcl brings a new dmu to tsw, and i was impressed of the preview.

    Im getting the route because im interested in both the route and rolling stock.
     
  23. Rob39

    Rob39 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2018
    Messages:
    1,654
    Likes Received:
    1,571
    Im interested in the proposed route and stock too. Theres a preview stream on Friday. Fingers crossed.
     
  24. phillip.good

    phillip.good Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2020
    Messages:
    111
    Likes Received:
    165
    I was just saying this based on the video…. 101 check… 08 check…. Class 47 check!
     
  25. marcsharp2

    marcsharp2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2019
    Messages:
    212
    Likes Received:
    455

    Diesel Legends was always going to be on Paddington-Reading.
     
  26. Warspite

    Warspite Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2016
    Messages:
    102
    Likes Received:
    239
    I’m actually fairly optimistic about the route Rivet is developing but I still have concerns about the operational potential. In a post on the PC Discussion section, I showed the Mondays to Fridays train frequency for 1989 which I don't think was very different to the 'early 1990s' in which the route is set. This showed 60 main line services, particularly those operated by HSTs.

    https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...austell-and-st-ives.39102/page-20#post-384914

    There will be some on here who know the impact Summer Saturday services had on the railways of Devon and Cornwall until relatively recently. Each year, the summer timetable featured a number of extra trains every Saturday from mid-May to the end of September. In the late 1980s, to/from Penzance, there were no less than 41 London Paddington and inter-regional trains (21 down, 20 up) with services to/from Liverpool Lime Street, Manchester Piccadilly, Swindon, Glasgow Central/Edinburgh, Milton Keynes Central, Swansea, Brighton, Bradford Interchange, Newcastle and Aberdeen. 13 of these trains are shown in the timetable as HSTs with the remainder probably class 47/8s.

    I know the route is called ‘West Cornwall Local’ and the emphasis is on the local services, particularly the branch line to St Ives. But, on any day of the week, particularly on a summer Saturday, the main line was busy with trains and there was lots of activity at Penzance with incoming trains being shuttled to and from the carriage sidings for servicing. This was no sleepy backwater.

    We will hopefully see more detail of the route and its operations in Friday’s stream but I would like to know how the 'main line' trains are going to be represented without either an HST or a class 47.
     
    • Like Like x 4
  27. dave55007

    dave55007 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2020
    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    82
    37521 was released from rebuild to Thornaby depot on 15 May 1988 at a similar time to 37667 and 37668. All three were additional allocations to support the original 37/5 allocation of 37501- 37520. The three locos were released in Railfreight Metals livery, so the inclusion of 37667 on the Cornish Main line in original Railfreight is a bit odd!
     
  28. carter

    carter New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2021
    Messages:
    27
    Likes Received:
    7
    Has nothing to do with this but will you add one containers to older routes
     
  29. uvm0902

    uvm0902 Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2020
    Messages:
    103
    Likes Received:
    170
    Why does the BR150 have no views from the window? Why is Rivet in trouble all the time? After all, there is a single standard. Will this be fixed? Their absence deprives me of freedom and immersion, there is no desire to continue the journey.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  30. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2018
    Messages:
    6,562
    Likes Received:
    5,998
    There is? From what I've seen NOTHING in this game is "standard"
     
    • Like Like x 4

Share This Page